McKinney needs to get better advice on what to say to the press.

[aikoaiko]

Apparently, she committed another social gaffe and tried to get the press not to talk about it. She should have made a joke about it and let it go.

If I understand correctly, while off camera, but on mic she referred to someone on her staff as a fool because they press manipulated him/her.

Scroll down and look for the featured video section and "McKinney Speaks Again".
http://www.cbs46.com/global/story.asp?s=1343812&displayHelp=true&displayHelp=true

[flordehinojos]

1. i, for one, appreciate cynthia mckinney in all her honesty,her sincerity,

and her saying whatever it is her right and her privilege to say, including her anger at someone on her staff who got intimidated by any shitass press person. it is her staff, it is her right, and she can say what she wants to, on mike, off mike, anytime, anywhere. the one thing she does not need is, she does not need to start playing their (the swiftboaters', paid by bush smearers', gas perfumators')game.

[aikoaiko]

2. Its the part where she tells the press that they can't report on her words

that I'm referring too. Do you support that too?

eta: I justthink she needs somone to help her when she reacts and addresses the press.

[flordehinojos]

4. bush passess gas and tells the press they cannot report on it.

do i support mckinney's call for some "off the record" moment for herself? i don't know. is he entitled to it?

[aikoaiko]

15. great, your defense of her is that Bush does it.

To answer your question, no, Bush is not entitled. Of course.

[Retired AF Dem]

3. I hope she can find better things to spend our tax money on

H.R.4968
Title: To provide for the expeditious disclosure of records relevant to the life and death of Tupac Amaru Shakur.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HR04968:@@@L&summ2=m&

[flordehinojos]

7. isn't tupac amuru shakur an african american poet who spent his life

writing about peace? wasn't he persecuted by the american government under the first reagan/bush dynasty for his political views?

it seems to me that my tax dollars are much better spent on HRO4968 than on waging a criminal and illegal invasion and occupation of iraq.

[DubyaSux]

5. She can't have it both ways...

....she used the media to charge she was profiled and also charged this was a racial incident. She didn't have a problem with the media back when she was slinging charges. She didn't have a problem with the media to make her non-apology (she apolgized for the incident and the inappropriate touching - unclear whether she meant hers or the cop's) then.

This just proves she's a phony like every other member of congress. You can't cry racism to America and then claim this was a discrete incident. She should have just apologized to the cop, said she was wrong (she was), and moved on. Instead, she attacked the police force.

[flordehinojos]

8. having lived in mississippi many years, having witnessed many racial

profilings of truly wonderful black people, having experienced the damaging effects of prejudice ...
she had every right to say what she did, and then if she backtracked on it ... because it was the only way not to turn the event into an embroglio that would benefit no one, it must have taken a lot of fortitude for her to do so...and it must have hurt too, to do so.

[ShortnFiery]

33. Oh shit, it always comes back to this again ...

"She should have just apologized to the cop"

Hey, you centrists want to trash those Congresspersons on the left, when you need us, we just may not be there for YOU. Think about that fact?

[DubyaSux]

89. No...

...I trash anybody that hits a cop at a security stop.

I hate Bush. I hate this administration. I hate everything our so-called political leaders are doing to this country.

But I have no tolerance for anyone that hits a cop and cries racism as an excuse. It cheapens the true racism that still exists in this country.

[1932]

6. how is that a gaffe?

I can understand why the media would like it to sound like one, but, really, that's not a gaffe.

[aikoaiko]

11. I think it was her staff member she referred to as a fool

if its true, then I'd call that a social blunder.

[1932]

12. IF here staff person WAS suckered by the press (and was a fool)

then the media sort of wins twice be convincing you that McKinney is bad for pointing out that the media is an ass for suckering people.

Capiche?

So, again, I don't see how this is really a gaffe. But I can understand why the media wants to fool you into thinking that it is.

[aikoaiko]

14. I suppose supervisor ettiquette is not something you understand.

Its just not cool to say it where other people could hear it or record for posterity to be replayed on tv news.

But we are free to disagree on this matter.

[1932]

20. Maybe relationship between media & pols isn't something u understand?

[aikoaiko]

44. and what does that have to do with whether or not it was a gaffe...

oh yeah, nothing.

[1932]

See my last post.

[WilliamPitt]

19. The gaffe isn't the fool comment

but perhaps is her attempt to lecture the press about what they can write about.

100% of the time, you tell the press what they cannot do, and they'll do it just to piss you off.

[1932]

22. I think post 12 suggests how the media wants this to be read.

You don't have to spend too much time reading media coverage of McKinney to understand the prism most of the press wants you to look through when you see her.

I don't think I need to make this point again, but here goes:

The interesting thing about this story is that, perhaps, McKinney is justified in criticizing her staff person for not making it harder for the media to hold that same tired prism up when looking at her. So what happens? The media holds that prism up AGAIN to her reaction and spins her into a tempermental, unclassy bitch, just like they always do, when her reaction is probably pretty legitimate and probably no different then, say, John Kerry's response to a untalented staff member...but, hey, the media has a different prism through which they want you to see Kerry, so they tell different, tired stories about him. No?

[ShortnFiery]

36. And shame on any Congress Broad who is NOT classy. eom

[1932]

49. Especially if their politics are too liberal!

[ShortnFiery]

52. Oh that's just unforgivable ...

Not being feminine enough is crime enough, but her being pinko commie on top of that LIBERAL. <gasp and shrieks> Well, kick her out now! I hope that nice Capitol Cop's union FORCE him to persecute oops! indict her for not behaving like a Congress LADY.

Oh the horror! The hor-ror of pushy black broads having any power over us pasty white, bloated, beer guzzlin' and ENTITLED, good ole' white boys. :puke:

[1932]

64. I heard a rumor that the governor of Montana is

a very abusive boss.

I wonder if a discussion about it would result in a 75-post thread at DU?

Probably not, eh?

[Catrina]

75. Well said ~ too bad so many here are willing to be duped and led into

the Rove trick of 'we should be better than the other side' nonsense. Wrong, you fight fire with fire. We are in a war for this country right now, and she is a target because she stood up to them.

Can we have a thread about the WH manipulation of the press? So many here seem to be so concerned about the topic, or is it only the failed attempt by McKinney to do what Rove has so successfully done for so long, and with such tragic results for this country, that interests people??

I'm a little suspicious of those who are so outraged by this non-issue. This kind of thing happens every day to the press, I know it does from friends who are reporters. Most times, they do NOT report on incidents like this if a politician asks them not to. They know if they do, they will not have access to that particular person.

But Cynthia is a marked woman ~

[ShortnFiery]

38. Well, unless of course they're the * Administration n/t

[oasis]

9. Mckinney wanted to move on and talk to the press only about her campaign.

Her staffer "Coz" apparently told the press that they could ask questions about the cop incident. McKinney blasts the staffer for screwing up and feels that her remarks should not be on the record.

Better advice would be to make a joke about it? I think not.

McKinney feels she is under attack by the corporate press and is in no joking mood.

[flordehinojos]

10. amén!

[aikoaiko]

13. wel if you think telling the press to not report on her words is better

I'll guess we can just disagree.

[Charlie Brown]

23. so congress reps can dictate how their campaign events are reported?

I certainly hope not.

If McKinney feels she is under attack by the "corporate press" it would be wise not to invite them to conferences.

[oasis]

99. The "cop incident" has as much to do with her campaign as what she

had for breakfast last Thursday. If she calls a press conference to talk about "A" she can feel free to walkout on a Rovebot media that insist on asking questions about "B".

[Walt Disney]

16. I hope she just keeps her mouth shut.

This thing is about to blow over and it would be stupid to breathe new life into it.

[left is right]

17. Didn't see or hear the incident

but when most politicians makes a gaffe and then says you can't publish that, I think it is done in jest, not as a threat or a command.

[aikoaiko]

18. Its possible, but watch the video, she didn't really 'sell' the joke if

it was a joke.

[BuyingThyme]

78. Unfortunately, it was just the third consecutive incident in which

she believed herself to be superior to all others. She's unknowingly filling in the gaps on the Capitol Hill incident.

[Charlie Brown]

21. I agree.McKinney was out of line chiding the press on how to report

It was a gaffe on her part and she should have let it drop. This whole incident just makes her look like a joke.

Yeah, I know. I'm a plant, Karl Rove, etc. :eyes:

[Pastiche423]

24. No, "this whole incident ..."

is about the GOP run media trying to make something out of nothing. They are after her, just like they were in 2002.

W/comments like yours, I am beginning to understand why we have little Congresspeople w/backbones.

[Charlie Brown]

26. She made a gaffe and then dictated to the press what they could report

Regardless of her positions in the past, are you seriously defending this?

[Pastiche423]

28. I am defending Cynthia

from the smear that is going full tilt and from the people on this board who are buying into that smear.

Get it?

[Charlie Brown]

30. No, I do not.

This thread is about her demand to the press to stay silent on the gaffe. That is indefensible, and no previous plights can justify trying to gag reporters.

[Pastiche423]

40. Keep on feeding that smear!

I bet you won't be happy until there are no, nada, zilch, zippo Dems w/a backbone in Congress.

Thanks for helping the other side! :eyes:

[Charlie Brown]

43. you've yet to answer my question

The video of Cynthia's declaration of the press is at CNN's main page. Do you defend her telling the press what they can and can't use in coverage? If a right-winger had done this, would they get a free-pass?

How does the Democratic Party or the Progressive Mvmt rise or fall on McKinney's career?

[Pastiche423]

51. Please tell me what the

big fucking deal is about what she said or din't say to the press? After what the press has been doing to her in the last few months, hell yes I defend her saying whatever she wants to to the press.

Aren't there a few more pressing matters going on in this country than what can or can not be said to the media?

[Charlie Brown]

57. She most certainly did say it

and since she's an elected rep, she has no business deciding what the press can or can't report. Our institution of free press and the right to criticize in this country is most certainly a "big fucking deal." The fact that McKinney tried ot follow *'s example of media manipualation and coercion here seems completely lost on some people here.

The "more pressing matters" in this country right now are interwined with free speech, press, privacy etc., and it does our side zero good to support a rep's attempt to control reporters.

[Pastiche423]

61. It does our side zero good

to help the GOP and the GOP run media smear a Dem that has been actually fighting for us.

[Charlie Brown]

62. Of course. Our censors are better than theirs n/t

[Pastiche423]

91. Did she censor the press?

NO!

[Charlie Brown]

93. She certainly tried to

and the "pressure" of politicians in the media has a lot of potency.

[Pastiche423]

94. Tryin' ain't doin'

[Catrina]

90. I'm looking forward to your thread on this topic ~ you seem to be

very fired up about manipulation of the press by politicians.

Someone as concerned about this subject as you claim to be, must certainly want to discuss it on a broader level. I would be more than happy to see more discussion of what I believe, was one of the main reasons why we are in the mess we are in today. Payola, arm-twisting, smears against journalists who publish the truth, lies and RNC memos going out to the press, and denial of access to those who refuse to publish the lies.

It's an important topic ~

Or is it just Cynthia McKinney's little incident which certainly had nothing to do with anything of any importance, that has you all riled up? I am asking in all honesty. You don't seem willing to discuss anything other than what was something that happens every day with reporters, and which most times they don't publish at the request of politicians. You don't seem even willing to compare the treatment of this one politician in comparison to that of others.

[Charlie Brown]

92. the fact that people are giving her a free-pass bothers me

but since we're on the subject, was her declaration justified? It would be nice to get an actual answer.

[digno dave]

83. I like my backbones accompanied by a brain...see our Prez

nt

[digno dave]

81. Agree. Her actions are indefensible. Don't be a party loyalist to the

extent it damages your own integrity. There are Democrat fools just as there are Republican fools.

[Catrina]

25. You mean like the way the WH controls press? The manipulation of the

press that brought us the Iraq war? Did CNN ever report on that, btw? When they do, I'll pay attention to their little non-stories about a woman losing her cool (heaven forbid women should do that) a little, and then, knowing she is a target of the radical right and the WH, asking the reporter not to publish her little gaffe. Did it get anyone killed, btw? :eyes:

Get ready for the John Conyers stories also ~ he better not make a single, little, teeny weeny mistake! We already KNOW that CNN thought it a big enough story to report that five years ago, horror of horrors, he asked an aide to watch his kids!! At least she didn't end up dead like the Bush babysitter! I don't recall that one being on CNN.

[Charlie Brown]

27. she did not "ask the reporter not to publish" her gaffe

She TOLD him he was not allowed to cover it. You are defending this?

[Catrina]

29. No, I'm ignoring it ~ I'm waiting for CNN et al to tell us how the WH

TOLD them they were not allowed to cover the truth about the lies they told to lead us to war! We do know to what lengths they went to tell those lies and to use the press to do so. No thanks to CNN, thanks to court documents.

You are free to help the rightwing attempt to destroy Cynthia, I'll be standing behind her truth-telling about this administration ~ and when it becomes against the rules in this country to try to control the press, I'll worry about her doing it. Sadly, she doesn't have much influence over them it seems, so why worry? You need to worry about those who DO have influence enough to TELL the press what they can and cannot do.

She's just trying to do what is now the norm, I guess ~ too bad she isn't as good at it as Bush et al, we wouldn't even be talking about this little social gaffe which so far, hasn't killed anyone. Times have changed, which sort of has changed some us also, in terms of the rules and the priorities. This isn't the 'nineties. We can give no ground to the enemy ~ and the enemy is not Cynthia McKinney, last time I looked.

[Charlie Brown]

34. When politicians try to coerce the media, I will call them on it

that is not a rightwing position, it is common sense.

If you're willing to give free-passes to reps who manipulate how they are covered by the press, our side has really fallen short on principles.

[ShortnFiery]

35. Then you're going to be busy 24/7 with this Administration ...

Better start now ... the pay-offs, blackmail and thuggery are in full force.

[Charlie Brown]

37. when politicans try to coerce the media, I will call them on it.

fear-mongering does not work on me.

[ShortnFiery]

39. Like I said, time to get busy ... you're missing a lot of coercion

as we type. :P

[Catrina]

56. Our side? It looks like your services are not required in this matter

She, unlike the Bush WH, appears to have no control over the press. As this story demonstrates.

We have tried hard to 'call them' meaning the press, on allowing themselves to be manipulated, paid, and threatened to NOT report the truth about the lies of this administration, but like Cynthia, despite thousands of emails, letters, phone-calls etc. we failed. Therefore every little 'gaffe' committed by a Dem. will go on being reported, while the major crimes committed by this administration go uncovered, until it's no longer possible to hide them.

Here's a small example for you, and to show that you need not worry about any Dem. ever managing to 'coerce' the media.

When Bush Sr. was president, the infamous Linda Tripp found out about his affair with his secretary Jennifer. She tried to get that information out, but when the press approached Bush Sr. about the story, he let them know that they better not report on it. He attacked the reporter who dared ask the question, and went 'ballistic'. End of story.

When Clinton was president, the same infamous Linda Tripp found out about his affair with Monica. She didn't have to try very hard to get the press to pay attention to her then. I'm sure Clinton would have preferred that the press do what they did for Bush Sr., but Clinton was a Democrat.

You NEVER EVER have to worry about the 'liberal press' when Rove orders them to watch out for anything negative they can find on a Democrat like McKinney ~ they will, like the lapdogs they are, do exactly as they're told.

So, my advice is, leave the smearing of Dems to the press, they won't disappoint you, and see if you can get them to tell us about a Republican somewhere who yelled at an aide, and then told them not to report it. Good luck, is all I can say.


From Newsmax on the press and Bush Sr./Clinton 'affairs' ~ even THEY, a rightwing rag, apparently know what you don't seem to:

Why The Bushes Will Never Hire Linda Tripp

When Bush became president, Jennifer Fitzgerald was moved over to the protocol office inside the State Department. But she was still visible at public functions and occasionally traveled with the presidential party.

Those "in the know" inside Washington knew about this relationship. A Washington Post story at the time had carefully danced around the topic, even speculating about the "positions" Fitzgerald had taken with Bush. Linda Tripp learned of it and saw it from her desk down the hall from the Oval Office. She thought it inappropriate. And she told people about it.

This was no different from what she would later do in the Clinton White House when she again saw examples of presidential philandering – remember Kathleen Willey emerging disheveled with smeared lipstick from the Oval Office?

Things came to a head one summer up in Kennebunkport when CNN’s Mary Tillotson asked President Bush if he was having an ‘adulterous’ affair? Bush went ballistic and decried the question even being asked. He attacked the reporter for "what you are doing."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/2/12/55616.shtml

[Charlie Brown]

60. OK, so was McKinney right to dictate what the press could say?

If "our side" supports media-manipulation by reps, there's little visible difference from the Administration.

[Catrina]

68. Was the Bush admiriistration right to manipulate the press to get us into

war? Were they right to pay journalists to twist the news to get public support for their lies?

Would you go to a duel with a knife when you know your opponent will have pistol?

Of what importance is this story in the sceme of things, and how many letters etc. have you written to the press expressing outrage over all the crimes we know about that they have NOT covered because they WH ordered them not to?

I haven't seen any threads started by you expressing outrage over press manipulation by anyone, to be honest. Is this a new cause for you? I'm just wondering! If so, I have loads of examples that should set you on fire regarding press manipulation. Let's do it. Let's stop the manipulation of the press!

Oh, as I said, and which you have not addressed, we can let them off the hook regarding McKinney. She, unlike the WH, failed, didn't she? So, why are you still on this, rather than taking on what you claim to be against? Their successes?

[Charlie Brown]

84. There are hundreds of posts here every day about media manipulation

and most of them are accurate. I applaud the posters here who bring it to people's attention. It's when people are not called on manipulation that I get put-off, and that appears to be the case with McKinney's declaration.

"I haven't seen any threads started by you expressing outrage over press manipulation by anyone, to be honest. Is this a new cause for you? I'm just wondering! If so, I have loads of examples that should set you on fire regarding press manipulation. Let's do it. Let's stop the manipulation of the press!"

We can start by holding people within our party accountable who try to undermine freedom of the press like McKinney. Unlike Republicans, we can actually influence them and convince them to stick to their principles. If we attack one form of manipulation while turning a blind-eye to others, no one will take us seriously.

[Catrina]

96. So, you're comparing this to the lies told about war? To Judith Miller's

lies?

Personal matters, such as McKinney's relationship with her staff, or Bush Sr.'s personal life, is NOT news, and both had a right to tell a reporter not to publish it, imo. Or do you think that the press should NOT have beentold by Bush Sr. to leave his personal affairs alone?

When it comes to matters that affect our lives, the people they represent, and issues they make decisions about, then they do not have the right to do what this administartion has done.

This was not a story that should have taken up valuable press time, and McKinney was right to tell the reporter so. Did the same reporter report on the work she has done for the poor, eg? My understanding from what I know so far is that her work was of no interest to this reporter. I find that to be very disturbing in terms of how the so-called press works. Don't you? Wouldn't you rather know what she is doing as Representative than what she says to her staff?

I'd rather start by holding those who have totally taken over the press responsible if you don't mind. That kind of manipulation, which cost many lives, is a priority for me. Yours is apparently thrashing Ms. McKinney. That's sad, really ~ I disagree with you that we can't influence the press as Republicans do. I started by cancelling all subscriptions to all MSM, including television. What have you done?

[Charlie Brown]

98. I'm not going to get into a "better than thou" argument

but I have done something that you apparently have not. I have held Democrats accountablle as well as Republicans.

[Catrina]

101. Democrats were engaged in Payola, in filtering lies to the press to get

a war started? You have held them accountable for these things? Good for you, if indeed they did any of this. I have held the press accountable by refusing to pay to hear trivia, such as this latest piece of garbage, and by refusing to listen to their lies. I've also saved a lot of money, some of which I can donate to politicians who stand up for the issues I care about, like Cynthia McKinney ~

There would be no point in getting into a 'better than thou' argument here. There's simply no contest. This was, and is a non-issue, and I'm sure those who care about this country will see it for what it is. Different treatment by the press for politicians who dare to speak out against the crimes of this administration.

[flyarm]

41. exactly ..where was the media telling us about the payola to so called

journalists by this white house??

so where were all the hundreds of reports on the white house paying off all the reporters to report on all the bullshit they have spewed upon the american public?????????

oh and where are those wmd??

where is the no child left behind..

and where is the medicare pharmacy protections for seniors who now can't get their medicines?

and where the fuck is bin laden..oh i know..*hy boy brought him out today because his polls are tanking big time...

bullshit is bullshit..and this folks is a non story!

fly

[Charlie Brown]

45. This thread is not about any of that

It is about McKinney's declaration to the press about how they can and can't cover her publicity engagements. You can see the video at cnn.com.

Your thoughts?

[flyarm]

55. I SAW IT..AND I STILL SAY THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT!

where are the reports about 4000 ppl protesting * yesterday in napa..

this is like a childs game..

its all crap!
do we as american have so little to entertain ourselves with??

so i will ask again where were all the same number of reports on this white house paying bribes to journalists to spew propaganda???????????

no child left behind..propaganda...well all our children are left behind!

on our airways?????????

this is a witch hunt..

and if we need to hunt for all the crimes this white house has done..we don't have to look far...

just go stand at a pharmacy and see old people crying because they can't afford medicine they need for their life!

we fall into this trap ..and let this bullshit become a freaking story..and its just what this white house wants us to do..its bullshit!

fly

[ShortnFiery]

32. Haven't we met before? :P n/t

[ShortnFiery]

31. Why don't you volunteer to assist her Congressional Office? n/t

[aikoaiko]

47. Sorry, but my job and family keep me busy. I spread the wealth though.

[ShortnFiery]

48. Well, unless you know the full situation ... it's all conjecture

both yours and mine. ;)

I hope you were able to walk away with something thoughtful for that would make one of us. :hi:

[NaturalHigh]

42. McKinney is an idiot.

She can get all the advisers that she wants, but she'll still be an idiot and say stupid things to the press. When the press reports her stupidity, she'll scream racism. Sadly, many people will believe her.

[Charlie Brown]

46. Frankly, I can't believe anyone here is defending this

There is a severe shortage of principles among some so-called "democrats."

[ShortnFiery]

50. They're back! All the usual suspects. n/t

[Charlie Brown]

53. and what did you think of McKinney's demand of the reporters?

cnn.com

She unequivocally tells the press what they can and can't report about the event. Is there a justification for this?

[ShortnFiery]

54. How about we instead, take a look at the BIGGER Picture?

The hidden agenda that we ALL are aware of, yet too polite to say ... being this is mixed company and all. :P

[Charlie Brown]

59. that's quite a non-answer n/t

[NaturalHigh]

65. The usual suspects who think McKinney is an idiot?

Count me in.

[Catrina]

63. Nearly 300 African American Capitol Hill cops believer her. They

filled a discrimination lawsuit against their department based on discrimination. I suppose you think they were ally lying, like McKinney? Maybe there's more to that story than you care to know? Do a little research before you make statements like that. I have, and now I do believe her. As did the Black Caucus when they backed up the African American cops, who after filing the lawsuit, were subjected to more discrimatory treatment.

Was she an idiot when she backed the 9/11 families and questioned the Bush administration about why they refused to conduct an investigation into 9/11?

Or was it when she had the guts to question the lies about Iraq and joined those opposed to the war at demonstrations rather than stay in her lofty Capitol Hill office, remaining silent about their lies?

Enlighten me, I never saw her as an idiot, a little irreverent maybe, but isn't that what it takes to get things done, especially when it involves War where people get killed? She WAS right, wasn't she, or maybe we have different political views on what is important in this country today.

[Charlie Brown]

66. She was an idiot for trying to coerce the press

just like everyone who tries to control how information is received, including the Administration, the neo-cons, and infamous corporate-media.

[ShortnFiery]

69. You know ... if you centrists TRASH her ...

Don't be looking toward the Left for any support for you Milque Toast candidates.

The center has been trashing the left seemingly forever, and we are getting sick of the "classy centrists" roughing up those who serve in the trenches.

Why can't you at least STFU if all you don't like is her manners?
After all we LOVE her zest, manners or not.
You must have no respect for the liberal base of this party?

[Charlie Brown]

74. if you give a free-pass to McKinney's attempts to censor reporters

don't expect the real Left to ignore the hypocrisy when you call the Administration and the neo-cons on manipulating the media.

"Why can't you at least STFU if all you don't like is her manners?"

I don't like reps who try to control how the press reports on them. It has nothing to do with "her manners."

"You must have no respect for the liberal base of this party?"

I am a liberal who supports an independent populist press. Are you?

[ShortnFiery]

77. All you say is bunk! Why are you so into trashing a persons manners ...

Hey! Even if it was uncalled for, is THIS issue something to OBSESS on? Well unless you wish to take her down. I am not kidding here - many people on the left are tired of being kicked in the teeth by the DLC. You can AGAIN STFU if all you have to say is snotty comments. And all of the above is NOT illegal. Why are you so half cocked to TAKE HER DOWN? :P What's this gut level HATE that reeks out whenever one of these threads are started by painfully predictable = *the same* persons?

[Charlie Brown]

88. I am "trashing McKinney's manners?"

I don't follow.

[Catrina]

80. I'm laughing my head off! 'Information'??? She got upset with an aide

and you and our 'liberal' press think this is information we need to know about? :rofl:

I just called a reporter friend of mine who covers politics here in NY and asked him about this. He told me this kind of thing happens all the time, politicians getting upset with staff, under pressure, and they often ask 'you're not going to publish that, I hope etc.' The only time they would bother to publish such trivia would be if they had an agenda, he assured me. Who was the reporter, btw?

Sorry, but I won't fall for this kind of targeted attack on a good Democrat ~ sorry you see fit to do so.

[Charlie Brown]

86. so you do think she was justified in making the statement?

"everyone does it" is zero excuse for chiding reporters on what to report.

"A good Democrat" does not dictate how the press covers events. I'm sorry you think they do.

[Catrina]

97. I'm sorry you want to see a good Democrat treated differently by the

press than her Republican counterparts, or even other more 'cooperative' as in 'don't rock the boat' Democrats.

You think this is justified? To treat a politician who stands up against crime in government, differently than those who 'go along'?

[Charlie Brown]

100. I have never claimed McKinney should be treated better or worse

than anyone. I think she should be treated the same, and I have no sympathy for anyone who tries to control what the press reports.

[Catrina]

102. But she is being treated differently and we know why! Yet, you have

shown no concern about this. What 'press report' of any import to the public, was she 'trying to control'? Was it a lie about the war, about Domestic Spying, or maybe the Torture scandal which now involves our Sec. of Def. actually sitting in on a torture session?

Oh wait, she yelled at her aide who was in fact, wrong when she said that McKinney could speak about a matter currently before the GJ. And McKinney told the reporter not to publish what she said to her aide. A situation that occurs all the time, and which we never hear about. But you're not concerned at all about the different treatment she is getting from the press.

What this incident tells me is how right she was when she said she was discriminated against. This incident ceratainly proves it.

Btw, were you happy to see CNN cover the John Conyers babysitting 'scandal' as well? Because we must 'hold our own responsible' before we go after the real criminals who are killing and torturing people all over the place?

[Charlie Brown]

104. well, go in peace, friend

we've reached an impasse. I hope you find happiness and contentedness with your reps, whoever they may be.

[NaturalHigh]

67. She's free to have her views...

and to express them as she sees fit. However, she has been involved in one embarrassment after another for as long as I can remember. This latest incident, calling a staffer a fool and trying to dictate to the press what they may or may not print, is just the latest. There will be more soon.

[ShortnFiery]

71. So embarrassment trumps the JUSTICE that she will fight for

her constiuents. Ok, now I got it, it's the wrapping on the package that's most important, not it's inner contents of character. :P

[NaturalHigh]

72. She's unlikely to make any progress for her agenda...

so long as she continues to alienate the mainstream. Personally, I think she cares less about justice than she does about attention.

[BuyingThyme]

58. This incident seems to precisely reflect the disrespect ,

if not outright disdain, she showed for the Capitol Hill officer. She's really lookin' bad. It's embarrassing.

[ShortnFiery]

70. I say again ...

Why can't you at least STFU if all you don't like is her manners?

Why can't you realize that there's a bigger picture here. She will be out front for both Impeachment and continued investigation into the events of 911.

But NO! We must trash her because she is not classy. This is sick, can't you see the hidden agenda instead of nursing your own personal behavioral mores?

[BuyingThyme]

76. Don't you understand right from wrong?

You defend idiocy and dare to attack me?

:rofl:

[ShortnFiery]

79. You are rude. Of all people to be attacking McKinney :P

I hope you note that *arrogance and hypocrisy* are oozing out of you? Very unbecoming if I must say so. ;)

[BuyingThyme]

82. Do you know what HYPOCRISY means?

If you do, please let me know what you're referring to. If you don't, I'm not surprised.

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[ShortnFiery]

106. Self-delete

[ShortnFiery]

105. Yes, I fully know what Hypocrisy means, but do you understand

the meaning as it applies to "self?"

[BuyingThyme]

107. Well, your English ain't so good, but I assume you're referring to

the post where you told me to shut the fuck up because I stated a fact.

:rofl:

[AtomicKitten]

73. We and she will be lucky if this mess passes without further comment.

This is one of life's sticky scenarios best left to wither on the vine. Hopefully it has been smoothed over sufficiently so that the Grand Jury will be dismissed without taking action.

[Imagevision]

103. McKinny apologized - that's all she had to do, now she can smile to

the press and walk on...!