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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:00 PM
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"...but it’s not often things this clearly damning are so widely ..."
Edited on Sun Apr-23-06 11:02 PM by understandinglife
...60 Minutes segment tonight on the Niger uranium intelligence and thought it was very much of a piece with the Rolling Stone Worst President In History cover — a simple, direct narrative that will reach millions of Americans and let them know that they have been duped. We talk about this stuff all the time on the blogs but it’s not often things this clearly damning are so widely disseminated. Shock waves feel like they are starting to ripple out and it’s hard to know how far they are going to extend.



If you didn’t catch it you can see part of the video and read about it here:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60minutes/main1527749.shtml

More of Jane Hamsher's commentary here:

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/23/late-nite-fdl-is-the-country-catching-on


I agree with Jane Hamsher.

Whether it's the LA Times recommending Shooter take early retirement, to Congressional Intel Committee folk indicating the saber rattling on Iran is insubstantial bluster to a conviction-rich, clear picture of what Patrick Fitzgerald is able to do when he begins a prosecution with a one count indictment against one person far removed from his ultimate target ... the messages are all consistent, and the dissemination of the messages is becoming ever more "main stream."

Let me continue to try to make it as simple as possible:

Never Forget: George W. Bush willfully violated National Security to cover-up his willful launch of a war of aggression and illegal occupation of Iraq.


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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:11 PM
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1. Putting a face on the Italian connection was interesting for me
and I've been following this.

It really laid it out in a nice package.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:18 PM
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2. CBS News getting their revenge.
They shouldn't have pushed Rather out and they should have run the other story instead of the National Guard service story before the election, but they're still pissed and not goiung to quit coming at the Bush administration.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:33 AM
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6. Yeh, Bring it on!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:33 AM
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7. at least they haven't completely folded
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:32 PM
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3. Kicked and recommended
Edited on Sun Apr-23-06 11:34 PM by BrklynLiberal
I loved the cover of THE NATION this month too!!

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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:59 PM
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4. The Nation cover made me laugh out loud. thanks. n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:13 AM
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5. ROFL. And, the Illinois State Legislature is preparing to flush ...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 01:16 AM
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18. Fancy seeing you here;)
Good to see you!!!
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:26 AM
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8. To the Hague, George. You bought your ticket.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:35 AM
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9. 9/11 didn't change anything
I was glad to hear the guy on 60 Minutes speak what I've been thinking for quite a while now. That is Bush would have invaded Iraq regardless of 9/11, Al Queda, and Bin Laden. Most people don't think about this. In the same discussion of Iraq, I can almost guarantee that you will hear "War on Terror", or "9/11", or other terms related.

But that Cheney requested briefings on Iraq...ONLY Iraq, nothing else...within days of the 2000 election is all the evidence needed. 9/11 changed nothing.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:17 AM
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11. Exactly. And, as for mendacity, in the White House & Congress, ...
Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 11:18 AM by understandinglife
Josh Marshall's interview with Drumheller:

<clip>

Did the Robb-Silbermann Commission not hear about what Drumheller had to say? What about the Roberts Committee? I asked Drumheller just those questions when I spoke to him early this evening. He was quite clear. He was interviewed by the Robb-Silbermann Commission. Three times apparently.

Did he tell them everything he revealed on tonight's 60 Minutes segment. Absolutely.

Drumheller was also interviewed twice by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (the Roberts Committee) but apparently only after they released their summer 2004 report.

Now, quite a few of us have been arguing for almost two years now that those reports were fundamentally dishonest in the story they told about why we were so badly misled in the lead up to war. The fact that none of Drumheller's story managed to find its way into those reports, I think, speaks volumes about the agenda that the writers of those reports were pursuing.

<clip>

Link: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/008284.php


Lots of folk need prosecuting ....


Peace.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:04 PM
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12. Isn't this exactly what Richard Clarke wrote in his book what seems all
Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 12:07 PM by BrklynLiberal
those years ago?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:36 AM
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10. But here's why I don't give Rolling Stone any journalistic credit
On the cover, in addition to this story:

Confessions of Nick Lachey


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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:06 PM
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13. Another Monday morning kick!
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 02:10 PM
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14. Impeach
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 09:29 PM
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15. In_deed! And, Cheney as well as Bush.
:thumbsup:


Peace.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 09:51 PM
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16. Duty or Complicity
Each member has a choice: stand up and call on their colleagues to put an end to bushcheney's treasonous exercise of unrestrained power OR break their oath.

It's about principle, not political expedience, but perhaps they'll start to see that it's the RIGHT thing if we show them that running on Impeachment = $$$

To that end:

DU Challenge to keep the
"Be Patriotic! Impeach Bush" billboard up
(Sheeler for U.S. Senate)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1011338&mesg_id=1011338


Related:

The Third Man (Providence Journal editorial 23-Apr)

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:42 PM
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17. "Be Patriotic! Impeach Bush" billboard -- Yes.
:thumbsup:


Peace.
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