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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 09:51 AM
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On marines...
If you are male and over 40 in this world you will be asked if you were military.Yes,I was army 72-73.But amongst all past military folk, I find none finer than (and it hurts to say this) ex-marines (whom hate that term)....stolid-sure...pigheaded-yes,but talk one in to democraticness and you have built a machine!!!Find a single ex-marine and convert him and you will have done a great thing-you are starting with a guy (or girl) that loves what this country was when THEY were kids.I love these clowns for their loving of history and what this country WAS.Find one and you'll find a "republican" that hates them...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 09:53 AM
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1. I've never been on a Marine.....
Sorry, couldn't resist. :P
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:16 AM
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7. Yes
but you could be with very little effort....and if army excites you I will send my address....
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:24 AM
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9. *lol* I think my husband would take issue with that, but thanks. *g*
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 09:56 AM
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2. Two things
1) It would be "who hate that term" not "whom hate that term"
2) What in holy hell is democraticness?

I know, I'm a douchebag! :evilgrin:

Cheers.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:06 AM
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4. 1 Since "whom" is wrong...
and the other means as the Jefferson Airplane says to "feed their heads"....I normally see your posts in the 9/11 dungeon AND disagree....but great to meet you here...Thanks Blade....I'll study english,if you'll study how those buildings fell....
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:13 PM
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15. Since I almost never post in the 9/11 dungeon
I think you have me mixed up with someone else.

;-)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:06 AM
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3. The marines and submariners...
understand that the cult of 'individual freedom' in this country is a crock. That we're only as good as the weakest among us. The ultimate teams and far, FAR more egalitarian than the rest of our society.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:06 AM
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5. Why thanks!
As an ex-Marine I am flattered by your words. I must point out however that some of us jarheads have always been Dems.
Going through boot camp we were taught, among other things, about the glorious history of the Marine Corps and the brave deeds of many Marines through the years. Marines doing heroic things in China, any number of South American countries, the Dominican Republic and the Phillipines.
It wasn't until I got out (1972) that I began to ask, why were Marines in these places to begin with? They told us it was to protect Americans and American interests.
Ahhhh, there's the rub. American interests. I'm not convinced that everyone would accept actions taken to preserve our American 'way of life' if they truly knew what that meant.
Our military is used to strongarm other countries into doing our will. Our will is shaped and driven by corporate interests. Corporate interests are driven by profit which is fueled by exploiting cheap raw materials, natural resources and labor.
Hence 'we' are in Iraq................
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:14 AM
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6. My exact point...
...given my desire to build a country-saving team,give me 5-6 of you guys..as ex army,I'll say not about oh,thinking or deciding (just inter-service horseshit there) But a forward thinking Jarhead in the white house-thar I could go for...
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Medical Speaking Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:20 AM
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8. Marines
Thanks for the kind words. I am a Ex-Marine Vet-Nam Vet. I have been a Marine all my life
and been proud to be one.

Semper-Fi
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 02:55 PM
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17. Semper Fi.......To all you guys... N/T
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:42 AM
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10. Have several friends that are "former-marines"
but none that are ex-marines and I wouldn't care to refer to a former-marine as an ex-marine, at least not in their immediate vicinity.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:53 AM
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11. No such thing as an "ex" marine
Friend of mine is a retired colonel and he's a liberal Democrat.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:07 AM
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12. self delete
Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 11:08 AM by Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:08 AM
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13. The Marine Crotch is a great place to become anti-militarist.
I joined up in '61 as a kinda patriotic liberal 17 year old. 4 years later I emerged a disillusioned, anti-militarist, anti-nationalist, Marxist.

I've moved left to Anarchist/Pacifist over the years.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 11:11 AM
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14. As a former Marine, thanks for the post.
One minor tip, when referring to U.S. Marines, the M is alway capitalized (it's a trademark). Ironically, I believe a former army dog is the best prospect for President today, that being Al Gore.


Semper Fi.
:patriot:
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DarbyUSMC Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:24 PM
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16. Once a Marine, as the saying goes .................
Always a Marine. Therefore no, the only ex-Marines are those receiving a dishonorable discharge, IMO. Former is hard to say as well, but it'll do. Thanks for the thoughts in your post.

http://darbythorpe.homestead.com/thorpe4.html

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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 03:03 PM
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18. I agree-my marine friends are the most vocal,die-hard democrats.
I will remind you all to read Merle haggard's blog-he says it all.
http://www.merlehaggard.com/merles-editorial.html
I went to volunteer for the Marines at the tender age of 14 and I'm convinced I would have given my life. I'm sure if necessary, I'd do the same today. But 14-year olds don't ask questions and they certainly don't begin to understand politics. This nation has a history of being a warrior. Young men always pay the dues, and it was America's way to always be behind what America was doing. And the issues and the reasons why were always argued after the fact. Speaking of after the fact, it's a national shame the way we treat our vets. You see, to be an American you want to respect everything you know about this great country. Those who have the gumption to investigate, know that the reputation of honesty between the government and the people cannot reflect the reason for a single man to have confidence in what we're doing in current day conditions. I'm suspicious, I'm paranoid, and I'm afraid. And the person who says he isn't has not looked up or around lately.

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