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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:16 PM
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P.M. Harper (Canada) following George Bush's master plan.
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CTV says the Harper gov't forbids the press from being on base when dead Canadian soldiers return to Trenton base tomorrow....Craig Oliver just now called it "something taken right out of George Bush's handbook."....Perhaps that will be Harper's undoing. He seems unaware that Bush's methods are failing badly. He had CTV on his side from before he was elected, but seems so tone deaf he doesn't know how to keep them there. If he get's them mad...watch out!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:26 PM
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1. WARNING: THE LIBERALS BETTER GET THEIR ACT TOGEHTER....
ASAP!!! Understand? And yes, it will be the Liberals who unseat the Cons. Be pragmatic, vote Liberal. In 2000, some people voted for Nader (think NDP) over Gore and look what we got now. :scared:

Who will be the Liberal's new leader?
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:27 PM
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3. OH spare me!
the NDP does not equal Nader!!! I'd rather have a multi-party system than have a 2-party system like they do in the USA.

BTW, Harper is already on thin ice, given that he has a minority government. It's just a matter of time.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:33 PM
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7. I'm just telling what happened. As an American, my country....
has been raped and pillaged by these pigs. I do NOT want to see Canada go next. I'm just being pragmatic. If a Liberal/NDP government works in the end, that's fine too. Just keep the Cons out of power at any cost because the cost of a right wing government is very expensive. We Americans know this as a fact.
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:36 PM
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9. Your concern is appreciated
However, as others here have noted, it's a different political/media machine here. The Liberals will elect their new leader at the end of this year...so I reckon they're just biding their time.

BTW, Canadians as a whole have a much lower tolerance than many Americans for heavy-handedness like the Harper-Bush crowd are using. It'll be fine.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:29 PM
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5. Thanks for the advice.
I'll be sure to give it the attention it deserves.
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:33 PM
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14. hahah, that old weasel Chretien... your pic.
gotta love him.

Remember that big fracas when a Canadian dignitary calling Bush a moron -
it was right around the run up to the Iraq war.

I just loved how Jean handled the whole issue.
One of his comments to reporters:

''wellll, dat's not so unusual, she calls everyone a moron.''

and the best one was when a reporter asked J if he thought Bush was a moron, he answered:

'wellll, he's plays a really good round of golf'.

:rofl:
and I loved how he'd let Margaret Delhuntey from This Hour has 22 minutes comes into his office and make sport of him. Lol, we love making fun of our politicians, especially when they Let Us! Can't IMAGINE that * could possibly have this kind of sense of humour.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:32 PM
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6. The political dyamics are not the same
We had over 5 political parties fighting in our last election. And when the winners don't get a majority of votes, coalitions or alliances are formed. Not as formal as in European countries, but still required to get legislation passed.

Steven Harper's Conservative party has such a situation.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:34 PM
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8. Still, don't go easy on him.
You've got to have your eye on every move he makes.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:41 PM
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10. Oh, I will
Right now, he's fairly neutered. The only thing I'm concerned about is that he has control of the foreign policy. He can damage our reputation, but he can't take new aggressive action against anyone without Parliamentary approval.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:19 PM
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11. What about Iran?
What's the mood in Canada regarding the situation with Iran right now?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:24 PM
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12. No change
We're all mighty happy we never got involved. And it better stay that way.

Or else.
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crappyjazz Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:25 PM
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13. Iran?
Dude, it's hockey quarterfinals, we're not thinking about anything!

All kidding aside, I'm scared shitless about the whole thing so I've been glued to American TV and don't even know collectively what we're thinking about up here on the matter. Hopefully we'll take the same stance we did with the Iraq thing.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:41 PM
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15. Iran? The concern is more about child care here.
Canada is situated too close to a nation run by a lunatic with nuclear weapons to be concerned about a nation on the other side of the world run by a lunatic that might get nuclear weapons in a decade.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:26 PM
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2. Can he do that?
I suppose he can.

But really, why would he want to emulate a president who's approval is in the shitter? Either he's really, really, really stupid, or there's something up his sleeve.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:27 PM
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4. He seems to want a war with the media, too
And politicians never win those wars.

And is Bush someone you really want to emulate these days?
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