Double standards piss me off

[undergroundpanther]

When people read about this they got mad and rightfully so...It pissed me off BIG TIME.

PHOENIX (AP) - Two young men charged with sodomizing 18 boys at a youth camp last year have been offered a plea agreement that may net them little jail time and no record of sexual assault.
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The younger Bennett confessed to police that he and Wheeler sodomized the 11- to 14-year-old boys with broomsticks and flashlights in at least 40 incidents, court documents show.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1011995&mesg_id=1011995
But another thread pissed me off too, because of a double standard...

"They made such a big stink about the Duke case why not this one?"
Yes the media needs to make a stink about this Bennett case AND the Duke case BOTH cases need to be heard.
For some people on DU there is a sexist assumption, if a woman gets gang raped by some rich assholes oh another"slut" got raped,it's not news it doesn't matter.
But it DOES matter.
Her life could be ruined and she could be carrying trauma of what happened to her for the rest of her days.

Sadly to some Du'ers she is not important because she's a object,She's an evil woman framing the little rich Jock frat boys who thought being a 'dancer' entitled them to force rape her for jollies. This attitude and double standard infuriates me .
Was she ASKING to be raped? NO !!
Even if she was walking around buck naked that is NOT an invitation for forced sex,people.WAKE UP!!

Likewise were those boys in that camp that Bennett's asshole son was a camp counselor ,were those boys asking to be raped by "breaking the rules"? NO !!! No NO!

_Both_ CASES MATTER!!!The Duke case and this case of pedophilia are equally vile acts.Rape causes trauma to the victim no matter who they are. It harms a woman's mind and life just as bad as it hurts kids mind and life.This is because rape is an abuse of power a violent,violation of a persons own sanctity of their body,by force because the rapist wanted to dominate them.Rape is evil.

No one ,no human being deserves rape. NO ONE DESERVES or ASKS to be traumatized by some asshole on a power trip.

Death is preferable to living with trauma. Some people can recover from trauma they are the strong and fortunate.Not everyone is as strong and fortunate. For the others death would have been more kind than suffering the scars in their body and mind.That is how I feel about my life. I often wish I was not born.I faced pedophilia incest and rape in my life.
It has left scars that hurt,that ruined my life.And so I have no tolerance or excuses for rapists or pedophiles.

_ALL RAPE is WRONG_ and it is the_RAPISTS FAULT_ and it is the RAPIST himself who is to BLAME every time a rape happens. There is no excuse for rape,no rationales,no reasons,no blaming of victims for what a perpetrator does.. It makes no difference WHO gets raped.. the RAPIST is 100%at FAULT if said rapist raped.. It does not matter if the victim is ,a boy, a girl,an adult, a "prostitute",a teen, a spouse,comatose,an iraqi prisoner or a sheep it does not matter!!! Because ALL RAPE IS WRONG period. What kind of double standard SEXIST bullshit is this I see on DU??

Below is taken from a thread entitled
"I don't care about the duke rape case..."

"Go away. Non news news story. 100% bullshit. The missing white girl story but
she is now black and not missing. Let the justice system work. Stop it already!

Sex & money .... hype hype hype "

Regardless of who is victimized male, female or child, the fact they were raped is the REAL problem,that trauma ruins their life forever.It's not about sex,money religion..It's rape and rape is an evil abuse of power..
Rapists are ALWAYS in the position of power in an assault.. The rapist is who chooses to dominate and victimize,all on their own volition.. It is the rapist who use their own bodies as weapons and it is always wrong . In reality every rape is always 100% the FAULT of the rapist them self. The rapist could choose at any moment during an assault to NOT rape someone else,regardless of the excuses society makes about rape or whether said rapist gets away with it or not.

What could society do to make the rapist pause and think rape is not worth it?(This saying SHIT like she deserved it,she wanted it, goldigger, this or that..smug juries and ignorant sexist media looking at what she was wearing,is NOT deterring rapists from rape. It is excusing them. Likewise giving a senators son rapist piece of shit light sentences,and sweet plea deals that too is excusing the rapist and that is NOT a deterrent)

RAPE IS ALWAYS WRONG.No matter whom is raped or how old or young or how they looked what they wore or what "rules they break". Rape is ALWAYS the rapists FAULT and the rapist is to BLAME.

If I had my way, I would make the rape penalty severe.I would make the convicted rapist wear a permanent mark . Maybe a notched ear like the cherokee did to rapists so that EVERYONE who sees their ear KNOWS they raped somebody and the rapist will not be trusted as if he was not a sick asshole by the unaware..I'd give them social death sentence like that because they destroyed someone else's life just because they wanted a power trip..

If they rape again I'd CUT the offending body parts OFF.If they assault again, I'd just KILL them.Rapists are scumbags by choice, they became less than human the day they CHOSE to rape.
I would make the act of rape so costly to the perpetrator's well being and future life that the idea of doing it would amount to suicide.Than maybe rape of little kids,teens,,women and men, prostitutes and spouses would finally Stop. I don't waste my compassion on rapists and pedophiles.In fact I wish they'd all just kill themselves,or some strange virus would start killing rapists pedophiles and sociopaths and wipe all of them off this Earth.

Imagine a world without "predatory" assholes..No more rape pedophilia and sadistic domination that these perpetrators choose to do that ruin so many victims lives.

I hope the boys who were raped by Bennett's pervert son get justice,and the senators son is sentenced to jail for the rest of his miserable life or is given death for his crime against them. I hope the woman ,if it is proven she was raped by the Duke frat boys gets justice too.(considering some of those assholes are out on bail,she might have a case) I hope those gang banger assholes are given jail for the rest of their days or the death penalty. Anything less than that for all these rapist assholes is a tragedy. Too bad our culture excuses rape under "certain circumstances" and minimizes and hides what was done to save the monsters face.

[niyad]

1. THANK YOU!!!!! you said everything I have wanted to in my appalled

reading of some of those threads. THANK YOU!!

[Ecumenist]

2. Surely, you jest..

You can't seriously mean that these republicans are subject to the same laws, ethics, we little people, nay, peons have to answer to?

Heretical, HERETICAL I SAY!!:sarcasm:

[Breeze54]

3. Let it rip!! Great rant!

You're saying what everybody is thinking!
It's outrageous what happened to those 18 victims and the 'slap on the hand' to that nutcase!
And we all know what's going to happen in the Duke case...Money talks, bullshit walks!
I was thinking that the two Lacrosse players "chosen" to face the charges will be
proven not guilty, as they already said they have evidence to prove they weren't even there.
Those two were 'hand-picked' after a week or so of 'silence' from the 'team' and the
next thing will be that the police have 'no other evidence' and NOBODY else will be charged
and those two will be found innocent! You watch!! It's going to happen like that, IMHO!

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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

K & R'd !
:kick:

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[niyad]

8. what the HELL is the matter with YOU? and how utterly contemptuous of

you to use the word womyn in quotation marks, as though they are somehow not real. and just how does womyn thinking with their vaginas have to do with this situation. oh, and by the way, before you continue your snarky references to the word cunt, you might want to learn a little of its etymology and linguistic and cultural significance:

Etymology Of Cunt
The etymology of 'cunt' is actually considerably more complex and contentious than is generally supposed. In fact, the word's etymology is highly contentious, as Alex Games explains: "Language scholars have been speculating for years about the etymological origins of the 'c-word'" (2006). A consensus has not yet been reached, as Ruth Wajnryb admits in A Cunt Of A Word: "Etymologists are unlikely to come to an agreement about the origins of CUNT any time soon" (2004), and Mark Morton is even more despairing: no-one really knows the ulterior origin of cunt" (2003). Greek Macedonian terms for 'woman' - 'guda', 'gune', and 'gyne' - have been suggested as the word's sources, as have the Anglo-Saxon 'cynd' and the Latin 'cutis' ('skin'), though these theories are not widely supported. Perhaps the clearest method of structuring the complex etymology of 'cunt' is to approach it letter by letter, and this is the approach I have taken here. I have examined the Indo-European, Latin, Greek, Celtic, and Dutch linguistic influences on 'cunt', and also discussed the wide variety of the word's contemporary manifestations.

Indo-European: Cu And Femininity

The prefix 'cu' is an expression of "quintessential femineity" (Eric Partridge, 1961), confirming 'cunt' as a truly feminine term. The synonymy between 'cu' and femininity was in place even before the development of written language: "in the unwritten prehistoric Indo-European <...> languages 'cu' or 'koo' was a word base expressing 'feminine', 'fecund' and associated notions" (Tony Thorne, 1990). The proto-Indo-European 'cu' is also cognate with other feminine/vaginal terms, such as the Hebrew 'cus'; the Arabic 'cush', 'kush', and 'khunt'; the Nostratic 'kuni' ('woman'); and the Irish 'cuint' ('cunt'). Mark Morton suggests that the Indo-European 'skeu' ('to conceal') is also related.

Thus, 'cu' and 'koo', both pronounced 'coo', were ancient monosyllabic sounds implying femininity. 'Coo' and 'cou' are modern slang terms for vagina, based on these ancient sounds
. . . . .

The feminine 'cu' word-base is also the source of the modern 'cow', applied to female animals, one of the earliest recorded forms of which is the Old Frisian 'ku', indicating the link with 'cu'. Other early forms include the Old Saxon 'ko', the Dutch 'koe', the Old Higher German 'kuo' and 'chuo', the German 'kuhe' and 'kuh', the Old Norse 'kyr', the Germanic 'kouz', the Old English 'cy' (also 'cua' and 'cyna'), and the Middle English 'kine' and 'kye'.

The prefix is also been linked to elliptical (thus, perhaps, symbolically vaginal) terms such as 'cucuteni' ('womb-shaped Roman vase'), 'cod' ('bag'), 'cubby-hole' ('snug place'), 'cove' ('concave chamber'), and 'keel' ('convex ridge'). The Italian 'guanto' ('glove') and the Irish 'cuan' ('harbour') may also be related, as they share with 'vagina' the literal meaning 'receptacle'. Even 'cudgel' ('weapon') has been suggested as another link, though a cudgel seems more like a cock than a cunt, and indeed none of these terms have the demonstrably feminine associations of 'cunt' or 'cow'.

'Cu' also has associations with knowledge: 'can' ('to know') evolved from the Middle English 'cunne', 'cunae', and 'cun', which are in turn derived from the Old Frisian 'kunna', the Old Saxon 'cunnan', the Dutch 'kunnen', and the Old Higher German 'kunnan', all of which contain the 'cu'/'ku' prefix. RF Rattray highlights the connection between femininity and knowledge: "The root cu appears in countless words from cowrie, Cypris, down to cow; and the root cun has two lines of descent, the one emphasising the mother and the other knowledge: Cynthia and <...> cunt, on the one hand, and cunning, on the other" (1961).

Indeed, there is a significant linguistic connection between sex and knowledge: one can 'conceive' both an idea and a baby, and 'ken' means both 'know' and 'give birth'. 'Ken' shares a genealogical meaning with 'kin' and 'kind', from the Old English 'cyn' and the Gothic 'kuni'. It also has vaginal connotations: "<'kin'> meant not only matrilineal blood relations but also a cleft or crevice, the Goddess's genital opening" (Barbara G Walker, 1983).


http://www.matthewhunt.com/cunt/etymology.html

[az chela]

4. I just forwarded this to the county attorney's office

in Prescott where Ken bennett and his son live and the camp is.
I have emailed them several times with no response.
They have an article on their website saying that the boys,Kyle Wheeler and Cliff bennett shoudnt be punished.

[undergroundpanther]

9. I wish I could

Become as Sekhmet, Tama'atsekhmet ("Sekhmet is the Truth")and let them all be judged guilty in the lions claws..I wish these perverts spiritual and legal and if the courts were honest, physical destruction,May Sekhmet stalk and judge them. May thier own suillied names be as a corpse that stinks wherever they go,may Sekhmet give them no peace no 'salvation" and no mercy.Sa Sekhem Sahu
SekhemetMaatSophiaSetHeru!. Power and wisdom desired for and eyes that peirce the darkness! And when these deeds get uncovered they will flee.. So,
May another lion be ready catch these perverts as they attempt to flee justice of Sekhmet..
May the rapists be impaled upon the wide-spread and auspicious nails of the lion-faced God, Narasimha. His nails are like thunderbolts and are highly skilled in tearing asunder the lofty mountain-like heads of the herds of strong and intoxicated elephants in the form of demons...

RRrorwr!

If Earthly courts fail the victims,there is always the will of spirit to call down the fire of judgement upon perpretrators!

[Doctor_J]

5. They're many arrests behind *

I thikn if you're a Repub you get 5 free misdemeanors, or 3 felonies, before you get in trouble.

[Fleshdancer]

7. this story angers me to my very core

I read this earlier and had to literally step away from my computer for a while. Perhaps I'm the wrong person to discuss the the sheer hell unleashed on boys in our society since 1. I am a woman and 2. I have a daughter and no son, but I am disgusted and pissed regardless. Of course I know that

Our future men get brutally sodomized and the case dies because of political connections. Our future men are molested by female teachers and the situation is made into a laughing joke on late night tv. Our future men are raped by priests and their hell is hidden by religious bureaucracy for decades. This doesn't even begin to address the issue of physical and emotional abuse as well as "prescribed" drug abuse imposed on the young men in our society. I fear for them. They deserve better.