Ohio rolls out new Diebold Voting Machines in time to unseat Kucinich!

[IndyOp]

Kucinich's District (10) is Cuyahoga County and it looks like there is quite a set-up for theft of election underway...

Right now very expensive campaign ads are being run for Rebecca Ferris (DINO) -- and she does not have the $$ to run such ads...

Also Rethugs are being directed to cross-over during the primary to vote for Ferris (to unseat Kucinich)...

All of this, IMO, is being done so the Ohio GOP can STEAL THE ELECTION. IMO, there won't be enough people to cross over to get Ferris the votes she needs, and Dems are going to vote for Kucinich (at least as evidenced by reports of lawn signs all over Ohio-10).

Any other indication that Ohio GOP is about to STEAL THE ELECTION? Guess what kids?

On Election Day, May 2nd, the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections will present our new electronic voting system. Electronic Voting will replace punch card voting. Electronic voting devices are easy to use, secure and accessible to all of our voters. The touch screen machines are similar to using an ATM machine at your local bank. Although you will not get a “receipt”, you will be able to review your selections on the enclosed verifiable paper audit trail before casting your ballot.

Want to see how the machines work? Look for a link to a video at this page: <http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/electronicvoting.htm>

I just called Cuyahoga BOE (216.443.3298) and the lady on the phone confirms the new voting machines are DIEBOLD.

Please keep in mind that a verifiable paper audit trail means NOTHING unless 100% of the votes on that trail are recounted no matter what the outcome. If Ferris were to win by 51% - they must recount all to know whether Kucinich really lost. If Ferris were to win by 62% - they must recount all.

But - wait! Ohio State Legislature just passed new laws this year making it very, very expensive and very difficult to do recounts (sorry, no links).

CAN YOU SPELL S-C-R-E-W-E-D??

My thoughts:
1) We've got to do what we can to get-out-the-vote.
2) Also, provide extra donations to the Kucinich campaign.
3) BEG the Kucinich campaign to prepare for a recount IMMEDIATELY at the close of the polls on election day. Even if Kucinich wins he should hold a recount - if his campaign can document wildly different recount totals from those reported election evening - that might blow the lid off of Ohio's tainted elections.
4) See RayOfLight's post below about helping to run parallel elections!

Kucinich Office (Campaign): 216.252.9000

Donate: http://www.kucinich.us/

[AnnInLa]

1. thanks for the info, can you keep us updated?

maybe some of us could travel to OH if needed by K?

[William769]

2. This one election result will put to rest

The unequivocal answer about DIEBOLD!

[IndyOp]

4. I appreciate your spirit! I disagree with your assertion.

Not every election will be targeted for theft - only critical elections and only elections that they think they can get away with.

Sometimes they will steal by a little (2% or 6%) and sometimes by a lot (20% or 40%).

They could commit fraud and Kucinich could still win if the election is HUGE LANDSLIDE -- say 78% of people vote for Kucinich, but the results show that he won by 62%.

There aren't any all-or-none tests -- there are shades of grey --

All voting machines are suspect -- Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia, Triad, MicroVote, Fidlar -- all of them are suspect because all of them are open to hacking from inside the company or from without.

:hi:

[Stanchetalarooni]

3. Super Glue is the solution.

May 2nd is "Bring a tube of Super Glue to the polls" day.

[IndyOp]

5. I suggest that you don't SuperGlue.

Vandalism is a crime and you could wind up in jail for a long time and we need you on the streets. It seems to me that it would be pretty obvious who did the damage if there is a line and the machine works fine for you but doesn't work for the next person...

:hi:

[Zorra]

32. Airborne magnetic democracy dust.

Aaachoo!

Excuse me, I have a cold....
;-)

[shenmue]

10. I like your thinking

:7

[johnnie]

6. That is my district

I will try to report here what I experience.

[mikelewis]

8. Mine too...

It was nice having Kucinich around. It'll be sad to see him go.

[mikelewis]

7. HB3 and the recount process... (Ohio - the best Democracy money can buy)

This from Truthout...

HB3's most publicized provision will require positive identification before casting a vote. But it also opens voter registration activists to partisan prosecution, exempts electronic voting machines from public scrutiny, quintuples the cost of citizen-requested statewide recounts and makes it illegal to challenge a presidential vote count or, indeed, any federal election result in Ohio. When added to the recently passed HB1, which allows campaign financing to be dominated by the wealthy and by corporations, and along with a Rovian wish list of GOP attacks on the ballot box, democracy in Ohio could be all but over.

-snip-

HB3 will also reduce voter rolls by ordering county boards of elections to send cards to registered voters every two years. If a card comes back as undelivered, the voter must rely on a provisional ballot. But tens of thousands of provisional ballots were arbitrarily discarded in 2004, and some 16,000 are known to remain uncounted to this day.

HB3 also imposes severe restrictions on voter registration drives. It allows the state attorney-general and local prosecutors wide powers to prosecute vaguely defined charges of fraud against those working to sign up voters. The restrictions are clearly meant to chill the kind of Democratic registration drives that brought hundreds of thousands of new voters to the polls in 2004 (even though many were turned away in Democratic wards due to a lack of voting machines).

Indeed, HB3 will raise the cost of mounting a recount from $10 per precinct to $50 per precinct. In 2004, Secretary of State Blackwell forced citizen groups to raise private funds for a recount, which he proceeded to sabotage. The process, which became a futile electronic charade, cost donors committed to democracy more than $100,000. Three partial, meaningless faux recounts resulted. To date more than 100,000 votes cast in Ohio remain uncounted, including some 93,000 easily-read machine-rejected ballots.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/120605D.shtml

[ray of light]

9. Help run parallel elections in Ohio.

fight back. Don't just complain!

Contact me and I will get you the information to join their training.

[IndyOp]

11. You are a RayOfLight -- I edited my OP to include suggestion

that people read your reply about helping with parallel elections...

What do you think about my other suggestions in the OP? I am all about fighting back!

[ray of light]

14. thank you. I need volunteers to contact me asap

I believe there is a training coming up. Our goal is to run as many parallel elections (without advance notice of where they'll be) across the whole state. Clearly, that means the more volunteers we have the more we can provide oversite.

Thanks.

[ray of light]

16. more info I posted here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1018478&mesg_id=1018740

[Kansas Wyatt]

12. If I were Kucinich

I would make sure that his election set a record for the most exit polls in history. Not just one or two, but several verifying or discrediting the "official" Diebold count.

If they want to steal it, then let their Republican Theft Software be exposed for the nation to see. With so many people turning anti-Bush / Republican, maybe people will demand retribution for the last six years, the election thefts were taking place. Simple fact, people are being ruined and destroyed by the Republican Gov't, and they will be extremely pissed off and rabid with the knowledge that the Republicans stole their Government in the first place.

[mopinko]

13. a winner asking for a recount is exactly what we need

this must be pounded into the kucinich camp if possible. they can have no propaganda defense against a winner who says, i want to make sure my mandate is legitimate.

[BeFree]

15. Kucinich is speaking out about the threat, right?

I sure hope he's ringing that bell, loud and clear.

He is in the spotlight and if he steps up and leads the way to establish the dangers involved in the way the vote is counted in his race, it may just be the one race that smashes the illusion of e-voting honesty, once and for all.

Looking forward to hearing about him ringing that bell.

[IndyOp]

18. Kucinich has supported HR2239 -

It calls for voter verified paper trail, and 0.5% 'surprise' audits. HR550 (Holt's bill) calls for 2% audits. IMO neither are sufficient.

I have not heard Kucinich speak out about this in regards to his upcoming primary or race...

I am WORRIED.

[truckin]

17. Here's my nightmare scenario when DREs are used with the

paper trail. The machines are programmed to add one bogus paper record for every 10 legitimate paper records generated by ballots cast electronically. Then the paper receipts outnumber the number of voters who signed in for that precinct so the recount of the paper records is declared invalid and the electronic result stands. This may be far fetched but based on recent history in Ohio I would not be surprised to see this or some other scheme take place to render the paper records invalid.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

19. Every single person who goes to the polls and votes for Kucinich

should be prepared to file a notarized statement to that effect with the Attorney General of Ohio, the Secreatary of State and also file it with the Department of Justice and force this case to be blown wide open . Have those affidavits prepared now and get ready to make them available to Ohio voters. Maybe set up tables with notaries outside of polling places.

[IndyOp]

20. Notarized statement? How difficult would that be to set up outside

the polling place? They would need volunteer Notary Publics, right? And what kinds of forms? Very official or Xerox? In a primary - 10,000's of voters?

Wow, what an undertaking.

Damned good idea, however! Damned good.

[SoCalDem]

33. I proposed this for 2002.. It would not really be that hard

All you would need is a table with volunteers, set up just outside the perimeter line.

A few signs.. DEMOCRATS...MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE COUNTS THIS TIME.

if 100 people stopped by the table in a precinct, had their choice notarized, and the sign-in tally showed 100 democrats signed in, and only 70 votes were shown for the democrat, it would be easy to question..

Of course questioning always happens, and until there is a TEST ELECTION where paper AND machine are used to verify each other, we will never know who really wins any election from here on.

[IndyOp]

21. dupe

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

22. Ohio is the election theft...

...capital of the universe. The GOP has been doing it there, brazenly and with total impunity, since 2000. They're not "tainted" elections, the word is STOLEN, and it's not the "unreliable" machines it's the CROOKED GOP operatives who exclusively control the machines.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

23. This is the kind of thing...

...we have to sell Dem leadership and the American people on:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x425015

[helderheid]

24. K & R - I personally handed Dennis a PILE of posts from DU about

the voting machines.

[IndyOp]

26. Yeah - Roses for Helen & DU posts for Dennis... Perfect!

I am glad to hear it. :applause:

I do also know that most folks don't have time to read as much as they would like - Feingold revealed in the latest Bradblog post that he doesn't know as much about it as he would like too.

I haven't heard Kucinich state what his campaign will do in regards to election protection -- and we need to hear about it now!!

:kick:

[helderheid]

27. He didn't say much but it was obvious he knows the issue

I hope he read our posts on the plane!

[Imagevision]

25. Why does one feel there won't be a blanket of election fraud in November?

Repugs will simply state that; "we won you lost, it was close, now shut the fu*k up and go back to work.

[flyarm]

28. i just called Dennis's wash office and begged the guy answering

to please please have Dennis take the time to sit with Brad Friedman of bradblog, or VoteTrust people and know the voting machine issues...

i told them i was very concerned being from Fla that his election was about to be stolen...

please other make that call as well!!

fly

[helderheid]

30. what was his reaction???

:hug:

[flyarm]

34. THE GUY SAID HE WOULD PASS MY COMMENTS TO DENNIS N/T

[Roland99]

29. Has Blackwell discovered any more "accidental" Diebold stock purchases?

[IndyOp]

31. He may have - neither the video nor the Cuyahoga page make it clear

that the new machines are Diebold. There are links further down the page, but they certainly aren't bragging about the spiffy new Diebold touchscreens.

:grr:

[derby378]

35. Self-delete