Ex-Sec Of State Baker To Advise Bush On Iraq War -NYT

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NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Former Secretary of State James A. Baker III will advise President George W. Bush on Iraq, heading up a Congressionally mandated, bipartisan effort to generate new ideas on war there, the New York Times reported Monday.

Baker, a longtime confidant of the first President Bush with a close but complicated relationship with the current president, plans to travel to Baghdad and the region to meet with heads of state on a fact-finding mission that officials say was encouraged by both father and son and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the Times reported.

The newspaper said the White House quietly designated Baker to the advisory role last month, the report said.

Baker declined to be interviewed for the story, but at a news conference this month, he said it was not his intention to engage in "hand-wringing about the past" but to focus on the path ahead "on a bipartisan basis in the hope that we can come up with some advice and insights that might be useful to the policy makers in Washington," the Times said.

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[CrazyOrangeCat]

1. he used the word "bipartisan"

yeah, right.

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. Uncle Jimmie the Fixer

Is he still defending the Saudis in that 9-11 lawsuit?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. they will ignore his advice if it conflicts with Cheney or Rummie. Period.

The wild card here is Bolten. I know next to nothing about him. But, can he overrule Cheney and RUmmie? probably not.

[hippiechick]

4. ... let me just say ...

:rofl: :puke: :rofl: :puke: :rofl: :puke:


Just like every other venture Jr's put his Midas Touch to, in comes Poppy's clean up crew.

[CoffeeCat]

5. Oh pullllease!! (This is incredibly revealing event!)

Like Junior is going to listen to one of his father's friends?

Remember when Woodward informally asked Junior if he ever asked his father for advice? Junior was incredibly defensive and he snapped back that he "deferred to a higher power." That was a snub to his father. Obviously, he detests his father's opinions. Little Junior wants to do it all himself. All of this life, his father has bailed him out--failed business deals, drug/alcohol abuse, getting him out of service in Nam, helping him into prestigious colleges.

Junior is defensive about his father--because he understands that he's done NOTHING on his own, and that he's be selling shirts at Barneys--if it wasn't for his father's power and connections.

Now, Junior is allowing Baker to advise him? The article says that Condi and his father encouraged this. Someone took Junior into a room and said, "Look...you are failing. You've created a mess of things. You're ratings are in the toilet and soon you'll be in the single digits. You must come out of the bubble and listen to others who can help you. Otherwise you are finished."

He's doing this because he's in a corner and he has no choice. He's desperate with no options and complete failure trailing behind him.

My guess is that he will NOT listen. This is being foisted on him. It's a reminder of his failures and inability to succeed on any level--without daddy and his connections bailing him out.

I feel that this will only push Junior more into isolation and failure. He'll become even more dangerous.

Maybe--if this low point happens--true conservatives and Bush Sr's ilk will begin to see what we've seen since this walking disaster area was elected. Maybe then change will happen.

[greenman3610]

6. very perceptive

one wonders if this will put Jr over the edge.

I wonder if Baker has instructions to assess * 's psychology,
as to whether he is becoming (more) dangerous....

[saltpoint]

7. Jim Baker is the undetected figure at midnight, loosening the bolts on

Noah's Ark. That's a rip-off of a Robert Bly line.

I'm always suspicious of anything Jim Baker's involved with.

I'm wondering if Baker will mention that it's a good idea for Rumsfeld to go, or stay, or what.

[CoffeeCat]

8. What is Baker???

Does he share the slightly tempered conservative views of Bush Sr?

Agree or disagree with Bush SR--he was not a wack job, nor did he try to impose a theocrazy--as his idiot son is doing. Sr. seemed a lot less nutty. I may be wrong, but it seems like Baker and ilk are more in the George Will camp, and those people are incredibly unhappy with Junior.

Baker has been a longstanding close friend of Bush Sr's. What will he say to Bush?

If it's too far from Junior's sadistic plan--Junior will reject it.

Also, if Junior senses that he's being treated like the failed, spoiled, ineffectual brat that he is--he'll also reject.

Ya gotta treat this thug like a lunatic with a hand grenade. Talk reallll nice and slow, smile a lot--tell him how smart he is. You must say lines like, "I'm not going to ask you to change your mind...but if you think it's fair...I'm going to ask you to make some new decisions based on some new information. Is that ok?"

This should be interesting!

[saltpoint]

9. There was little notice of Baker coming in for this role, which

is interesting also.

Very strange doin's here, and with just a few months out from the midterms in November.

You're right. It WILL be interesting.

[LaPera]

10. Bush's daddy's goon, Baker, stole the election for Jr. So will little

Georgie, resent Daddy telling Baker to get him out of the Iraq mess he's gotten himself into?

Daddy has always had to pay someone to get the little spoiled shit moron Georgie out of trouble...This is no different!

But Georgie thinks he's really a big boy now...