Goss was 'given instructions' to purge Democrats from the CIA

[CatWoman]

Goss was 'given instructions' to purge Democrats from the CIA

Now that Mary McCarthy has "categorically denied" disclosing classified information on Bush's secret prisons, the political debate shifts a bit. Instead of assuming that McCarthy was responsible for leaks, we now have to wonder why, exactly, CIA Director Porter Goss sacked a veteran intelligence analyst. It's too soon to say with any certainty whether Goss, who personally oversaw the investigation into this leak, was driven by partisan motivations, but there's reason to believe the director of central intelligence was not acting on principle. After all, McCarthy was a Democrat and hold-over from the Clinton years -- and Goss is a former House Republican who has tried to purge top-ranking CIA officials of anyone who wasn't loyal to Bush. Let's not forget this Newsday report from November 2004 and how it might apply to the McCarthy controversy.

The White House has ordered the new CIA director, Porter Goss, to purge the agency of officers believed to have been disloyal to President George W. Bush or of leaking damaging information to the media about the conduct of the Iraq war and the hunt for Osama bin Laden, according to knowledgeable sources. "The agency is being purged on instructions from the White House," said a former senior CIA official who maintains close ties to both the agency and to the White House. "Goss was given instructions ... to get rid of those soft leakers and liberal Democrats. The CIA is looked on by the White House as a hotbed of liberals and people who have been obstructing the president's agenda." (emphasis added)
And now we're supposed to believe that Goss, whose history of rigid partisanship is overwhelming, ran a fair and objective investigation of McCarthy? Please.

-- Guest Post by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report



http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/04/25.html#a8038

[CottonBear]

1. "The CIA is looked on by the White House as a hotbed of liberals..."

:eyes: That is unfreakingbelievable. :( DimSon & the PNAC Junta are freaking insane. :(

[Vincardog]

51. Especially when you know the Skull and Bones crowd could always count on a

job at the CIA, if nothing else was working for them.

[KittyWampus]

2. Catwoman, I spent some time yesterday asking why DU'ers just assumed

she leaked any information. Further, even if she did communicate something to reporters, what proof has been shown it was CLASSIFIED info.

There is no proof she did anything wrong! All they say is she failed a polygraph test. What did they ask her?

Rather, she was ready for retirement after having her career stalled since refusing to blindly go along with the NeoCons.

Even the NYTimes was more sympathetic to her in their article then DU'ers.

[CatWoman]

3. I posted a thread last night in which Olbermann's report

uncovered the very points you are making

:hi:

[KittyWampus]

5. sometimes it's hard not to get caught in the Mediawhore's web of deceit

how long has it been that we have to read between every line and sift information?

Very easy to get mislead.

[tibbiit]

12. no its not easy to be mislead

the fuckers lie about EVERYTHING
There is no reason to trust but verify... just verify that they have somehow lied, nad there will be the real truth.
tib

[lyonn]

11. Oberman has got to go

He is a liability to the "party" - repub that is. He was really hammering this story. It is interesting he follows Prissy Crissy Matthews, it's like a breath of fresh air.

[LSparkle]

13. Whoa -- who said Keith is a RETHUG?

When he was on Q&A with Brian Lamb I thought he said he was an independent (but certainly not a RWer).

[lyonn]

47. Sorry, I forgot to put the word "SARCASM"

Keith is about my favorite, how embarrassing for me.

[CatWoman]

16. what the fuck are you talking about?

[Catherine Vincent]

21. I had to re-read the post to catch his/her drift.

That's what the repukes are saying about Olbermann..."Olbermann has got to go!!"

:hi:

[CatWoman]

26. ooops

never mind :)

[lyonn]

48. It was sarcasm

When I said Keith hammered them I meant he was stressing how the Repubs had lied, or at the least wasn't telling the real story. For instance, Goss only says an agent, no name or sex. Covers their a-s. She is about to retire and they axe her instead, no hearing, etc. Hopefully Keith will go over it again today.

No Keith today! Is he gone already? hopefully just kidding.

[CatWoman]

6. Countdown: Fired CIA Agent Denies Leaking

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/04/25.html#a8037

[KittyWampus]

34. Coupled w/ House proposal to give CIA power to arrest citizens

kinda scarey.

[rucky]

55. And even if it was classified info...

she'd be a whistleblower if she was exposing the offshore torture camps.

[kentuck]

4. Top of the list: Purge Goss !

As soon as possible.

[blm]

7. The corporate media showed NO CONCERN when the Nov2004 purging of

anyone suspected of supporting Kerry was happening with their full knowledge.

They just didn't think the American people should be concerned or even know about it, so they didn't discuss it.

That was before Katrina and before Fitzgerald - the American people had to see the reality for themselves about BushInc because the corporate media was never going to tell them the truth.

[LSparkle]

8. Wonder how Poppy feels about DimSon talking that way about his agency

His freakin name is on the freakin BUILDING, for Pete's sake! So they feel the only people who can gather "reliable" intel are ... loyal partisans?

The truth no longer exists (or these people aren't interested in it). They want their "own" facts, not cold, hard truth.

[Neil Lisst]

9. it was a political hit all the way, taking out a Dem contributor

Like all Team Bush gestapo moves, this one is so predictable. They feel that Nixon's failure was that he didn't FIND the leakers in time to fix his problem.

[RufusEarl]

10. So our leader only wants one view from the CIA,

disregarding the effectiveness of an agent that may be a Democrat/liberal. Well this should prove to anyone that had any doubt, that the republican party does not care about america.


No the republican party only cares about the republican party, does this admin really believe that a persons judgment is tied to their party affiliation? Can they really be so narrow minded to think in these terms, i can't determine if this is sad or scary. Maybe both!

[BrklynLiberal]

14. I heard last night that was the reason for the firing of Mary McCarthy.

She is just the beginning of the purge.

She had voiced doubts about the Iraqi intelligence, and she was just not a good Bush soldier.

[H2O Man]

15. The snakes in

the administration, and their co-snakes in various agencies, refuse to allow people the right to dissent. They believe they have the right to punish those who hold different opinions. And they feel justified in trying to destroy those who act upon their beliefs.

As I noted in my post (Leaks in Perception), the Cheneyites were shocked -- and outraged -- when the progressive democrats embraced Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife. For many years, they have been secure in their beliefs that the progressive people would automatically reject everyone from the intelligence community ..... because they have read about the executions of progressive people in the USA, and about the overthrow of sovereign countries in the '50s and '60s, and the rape and murder of nuns and priests in Central America in the '70s.

None of those crimes against humanity should be forgotten. But the blood is on the hands of those who ordered, participated in, and paid for those crimes. It's not fair to think that every member of the intelligence agency today shares in that guilt. Progressives are able to grasp the complexity in these matters.

Indeed, there is a power struggle taking place.

[BrklynLiberal]

18. The Military, the Intelligence community. Wow They are losing everyone.

There just could be a coup d'etat if they are not careful!!!

[H2O Man]

28. One of the things

that I notice when I listen to the generals talking is that they are careful not to sound like they are advocating a military control of the government. I've always thought that Ike's farewell address was among the most important speeches in American history, and I think the military-industrial complex has far too much power and influence in our society. But I think that these people are saying that there should be civilian control of the military -- but the Cheney "shadow government" and its side-kick, the Bush administration, represent a corporate control of the military. And our country is at a cross-roads unlike any other our people have ever confronted.

[KittyWampus]

35. Ike actually wrote "Congressional Military Industrial Complex" btw,

and was advised to change it.

[Lars39]

37. And most would call you crazy for even mentioning

a 'shadow government'. Glad to see you mentioning it. :thumbsup:

[H2O Man]

42. Yes.

Even a large number of intelligent people, who attempt to be informed on the issues of the day, and who care deeply for this country, have no idea what that "shadow government" is. I've had friends question if me about it, because they have not seen any reports on their cable news, or read any articles in the corporate newspapers, that make any mention of it. And they are shocked to see the shadow government described in a number of recent books by respected authors, including Senator Byrd.

[MisterP]

57. why does that situation seem like Imperial Way vs. Control factions

in the Japanese Army in the 30s?
Of course, the anti-Rusfeldians are not at all analogues of Control, but still...

[blm]

30. Do you remember my point from back during the primary battles here?

I would repeatedly point to whenever an intel person would leave and sign on with Kerry - they were already lining up back then for a battle between agents loyal to the United States and agents loyal to BushInc. I believe they sided with Kerry because they knew what he did in IranContra, BCCI and the CIA drugrunning cases and that he'd open those books that are relevant to what is happening today. BushInc could not stand under that exposure, but the good people at the agency would rise for their role.


I would say that the battle within the agency would shape up to be one of EPIC proportions on a historic level. Many thought I was being dramatic, but I knew I was stating a fact. I knew the purges would come because what was obvious to me was certainly obvious to the WH.

Disgusting that the corporate media will not share what is really happening with the American people. They know how big it is, but they downplay the real issues to keep the story contained and spun for BushInc.

Too bad the agents didn't know about machine fraud then. Guess only Bush loyalists are kept in that loop.

[H2O Man]

39. Yep.

The divisions brought us to war in Iraq, and threaten to bring us into a larger conflict with Iran. The neoconservatives have no respect for our Constitution, and threaten to destroy the fabric of our society.

[blm]

62. The small comfort I take is knowing the good CIA is out there and PISSED

and are pushing alot of the quieter stories out into the open where they can. Not an easy job, when you also have news organizations actively working to protect the Bushboy.

[stepnw1f]

36. "there is a power struggle taking place"

like platelets crashing into each other.

[alfredo]

17. I think we can run with this. The word "Purge" is pretty

loaded. It reminds us long of tooth citizens of the days of the Soviet purges. Images of Stalin cross my mind.

[BrklynLiberal]

19. There is no more accurate word than "PURGE".

What was it called when Nixon fired the Watergate investigator, Archibald Cox? Elliot Richardson resigned.

[BrklynLiberal]

23. "The Saturday Night Massacre"

On October 20, 1973, in an event termed the Saturday Night Massacre, U.S. President Richard Nixon ordered Cox fired, due to Cox's insistence on obtaining secret White House tapes. Rather than comply with this order, both Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus resigned. The order was ultimately carried out by the Solicitor General, Robert Bork. Upon being fired, Cox stated simply:

Whether ours shall be a government of laws and not of men is now for Congress and ultimately the American people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Cox

[alfredo]

38. You know it was Bork that did the firing. Nobody else would.

That was why he was offered a seat on the Supreme court.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

46. Alfredo, great minds think alike.

IMO, this is exactly what Bushco is doing to the US military and the CIA..

Talk about history repeating itself. Yikes!!!!

[peacetalksforall]

20. Interesting - I assumed that CIA employees were right wing all along...

Seriously ... intellectually, I know that they can't all be right wing, but it has seemed like it to me - over since the JFK assassination (or ever since details started coming out).

[tanyev]

43. There's right wing...and then there's ultra right wingnut extremists.

A lot of CIA employees could be right wing and still be very concerned about the Glorious Decidership.

[Ksec]

22. Hey she flunked the lie detector

LOL

What a load.

[BrklynLiberal]

24. They are not even allowed as evidence in court.

Not too reliable.

[Ksec]

27. exactly

and they can ask loaded questions.

[Mnemosyne]

31. Do you still beat your wife- like questions. Good call. n/t

[Me.]

25. Shortsighted

Once again only pukes will be in charge and will be the only ones to blame. That strategy has been working really well for them so far.

[BrklynLiberal]

32. One can only hope that there will someone around left to point the finger

of blame. :scared:

[Roland99]

29. Consider this move to give arrest powers to the CIA/NSA >>>>>>>>>>>>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1020302

[bvar22]

33. Demanding Loyalty to a Political Party ABOVE

loyalty to the Country or the Constitution is truly frightening. :scared:

How can Conservatives stomach this?

[ReadTomPaine]

40. Goss is uniquely suited to this hatchet jobbing of the CIA.

He should have been blocked when he was first put forward. There are only a few people Bush could have tapped for this position from his inner circle, and Goss was by far the most dangerous and effective. People matter - if Goss's appointment had been denied, Bush wouldn't have had anyone close to his capability to put in this position.

Now we are all enjoying the consequences. Maybe next time, Dems will be strong and stand their ground.

[emald]

41. welkome to amerikka

we will tell you what to think. we will tell you what to say. we will tell you how to live your life. welcome to bushits amerikka.

[Faygo Kid]

44. She donated to Kerry and the Democrats. Nonpartisan? Not under Goss

Of course Bush/Cheney are upset about the leaks. Not theirs, of course. They are going after anyone who is not a Bushbot in the CIA, and God help us in getting valid intelligence from here on out. We are in great danger now. Have been since 2001, but greater danger every day.

[spanone]

45. Bushco has politicized every aspect of America.

n/t

[Joanne98]

49. That's exactly what I think. It's an OUTRAGE that the Senate...

Dems voted for him. I'll never forgive it.

[Erika]

59. Agreed 100% n/t

[Joanne98]

63. Thanx

[creeksneakers2]

50. I think they are planning to do t he same thing

at the State and Justice Departments.

[Hun Joro]

52. I am having a sense of deja vu here....

My memory could certainly be faulty, but didn't they purge the CIA of "disloyals" around the time Porter Goss was installed? If that's true, then they must be creating new "disloyals" by their actions.

[saltpoint]

53. I have only the info I've read on the web on this case but my instincts

say that this woman is being scape-goated to assert Goss' control over the agency, to discourage leaks and tell-alls, and to put fear into the heart of the press for seeking inside information.

What I hope will happen is that Mary McCarthy will be found to be utterly innocent and that Goss' power play blows up in his partisan face.

[LibertyorDeath]

54. Yes they want them gone before they go into Iran

There's a new game in town and it doesn't include the Rule of Law

Soon the whole World will know just what kind of Fascist Thugs these MF's
really are.

[Erika]

58. I think the world already does

You have Greek dogs protesting Condi, the shoeshopper, while NO flooded.

[Erika]

56. The CIA has been politicized, only Bushbots can remain

This is also what they did to FEMA. The people who knew what they were doing grew totally disgusted with the political hacks Bush placed in charge of them. They left.

You basically have a bushbot government who are political hacks with no knowledge of the subject matter. Voila, Katrina.

[Fridays Child]

60. k/r

[EVDebs]

61. All part of a plan to aid the authoritarian and ideologically "pure"

Their Will Be Done
www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1983/07/willbedone.html

Since the CIA's founding and even before that, the KOM has been purging at the agencies of our collective national intelligence. The puppetmaster of our bureaucracies, like the cover of the Godfather movies...