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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 03:51 PM
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Brzezinski: Do not attack Iran (If Bush does, impeach him)
Zbigniew Brzezinski was national security adviser to President Jimmy Carter. This Global Viewpoint article was distributed by Tribune Media Services International.

http://www.iht.com/bin/print_ipub.php?file=/articles/2006/04/25/opinion/edzbig.php
Do not attack Iran

Zbigniew Brzezinski TMSI
TUESDAY, APRIL 25, 2006

WASHINGTON Iran's announcement that it has enriched a minute amount of uranium has unleashed urgent calls for a preventive U.S. air strike by the same sources that earlier urged war on Iraq.

If there is another terrorist attack in the United States, you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be also immediate charges that Iran was responsible in order to generate public hysteria in favor of military action.

But there are four compelling reasons against a preventive air attack on Iranian nuclear facilities:

1. In the absence of an imminent threat (with the Iranians at least several years away from having a nuclear arsenal), the attack would be a unilateral act of war.

If undertaken without formal Congressional declaration, it would be unconstitutional and merit the impeachment of the President. Similarly, if undertaken without the sanction of the UN Security Council either alone by the United States or in complicity with Israel, it would stamp the perpetrator(s) as an international outlaw(s).

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American policy should not be swayed by a contrived atmosphere of urgency ominously reminiscent of what preceded the intervention in Iraq.

More. Good reading.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 03:54 PM
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1. So How Is It Any Different From Iraq?
that was an international violation of law, a unilateral attack against a sovereign nation

how is it a neocon like Brezenski can call Iran wrong, and Iraq right?
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 03:56 PM
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3. not defending him but in the last line he says the "contrived"
atmosphere of urgency ominously reminiscent of what preceded the intervention in Iraq."
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 03:58 PM
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4. With Iraq, they got the UN to go half-way. That was enough for Bush et al.
Even though legal scholars believed Bush had to go back and get a second resolution explicitly authorizing the invasion, he did not claiming the 1st resolution was more than adequate to justify an unprovoked war on Iraq.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:16 PM
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12. Israel didn't when they unilaterally knocked out Iraq's nuclear reactor
If the world deemed it okay at that time why wouldn't it be okay now? I'm asking for opinion only, I certainly do not in any way condone such a strike by anyone at this time.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:22 PM
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13. Did the world deem the Israeli bombing of Osirak in 1981 OK?
Even if they did not, there is nothing the world could do politically because the US sits on the Security Council, and any action taken to punish Israel would've been vetoed anyway. The US always vetoes punitive measures taken against Israel, usually over Israel's occupation of the West Bank/Gaza Strip.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 03:59 PM
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5. where do you get that Brezenski is a neocon?
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 04:00 PM by paulk
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:10 PM
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8. he's not really a neocon, but there's this from wikipedia:
Brzezinski also became a leading critic of the Bush administration's "war on terror." Some painted him as a neoconservative because of his links to Paul Wolfowitz and his 1997 book The Grand Chessboard, which frankly discussed U.S. empire. He wrote The Choice in 2004 which expanded upon The Grand Chessboard but sharply criticized the Bush administration's foreign policy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:12 PM
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10. better yet, check out this interview from truthout:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:04 PM
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6. Isn't he a member, presently or previously of Kissinger & Assoc? If yes,
this article is most unusual?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:14 PM
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11. He seems to be conservative but not a neocon. Wiki entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski (born March 28, 1928, Warsaw, Poland) is a Polish-American political scientist, geostrategist, and statesman.

He served as United States National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981. He was known for his hawkish foreign policy (more favorable toward armed intervention) at a time when the Democratic Party was increasingly dovish (less favorable toward armed intervention). He is a foreign policy realist, and considered to be the Democrats' response to Henry Kissinger, also a realist, who served under President Nixon.<1>

Major foreign policy events during his office included: the normalization of relations with the People's Republic of China (and severing of ties with the Republic of China on Taiwan); the signing of the SALT II arms control treaty; the brokering of the Camp David Accords; the transition of Iran to a non-pro-Western Islamic state (the "loss" of Iran); encouraging reform in Eastern Europe; emphasizing human rights in U.S. foreign policy; and arming mujaheddin in Afghanistan to prompt, and then to counter, a Soviet invasion.

He is currently a professor of American foreign policy at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies, a scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, and a member of various boards and councils. He appears frequently as an expert on the PBS program The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer

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After power

Brzezinski left office concerned about the internal division within the Democratic party, arguing that the dovish McGovernite wing would send the Democrats into permanent minority.

He had mixed relations with the Reagan administration. On the one hand, he supported it as seemingly the only alternative to the Democrat's pacifism, but he also strongly criticized it as seeing foreign policy in overly "Black & White" terms.

He remained involved in Polish affairs, critical of the imposition of Martial Law in Poland in 1981, and more so of Western European acquiescence to the imposition in the name of stability. Brzezinski briefed Vice President George Bush before his 1987 trip to Poland, which aided in the revival of the Solidarity movement.

In 1985, under the Reagan administration, Brzezinski served as a member of the President’s Chemical Warfare Commission. From 1987 to 1988, he worked on the NSC-Defense Department Commission on Integrated Long-Term Strategy. From 1987 to 1989 he also served on the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board.

In 1988, Brzezinski was co-chairman of the Bush National Security Advisory Task Force, and endorsed Bush for president, breaking with the Democratic party (coincidentally hurting the career of his former student Madeline Albright, who was Dukakis's foreign policy advisor). Brzezinski published The Grand Failure the same year, predicting the failure of Gorbachev's reforms and the eventual collapse of the Soviet Union in a few more decades. He said there were five possibilities for USSR: 1. Successful pluralization, 2. Protracted crisis, 3. Renewed stagnation, 4. Coup (KGB, Military) and 5. The explicit collapse of the Communist regime. He said #5 "at this stage a much more remote possibility" than alternative 2 (p. 245). He also predicted chances of some form of communism existing in Soviet in 2017 was a little more than 50% (p. 243). Finally when the end does come in a few more decades it will be "most likely turbulent" (p. 255). In the event the Soviet system collapsed totally in 1991 without bloodshed.

In 1989 the Communists failed to mobilize support, and Solidarity swept the general elections. Later the same year, Brzezinski toured Russia and visited a memorial to the Katyn Massacre. This served as an opportunity for him to ask the Soviet government to acknowledge the truth about the event, for which he received a standing ovation in the Soviet Academy of Sciences. Ten days later, the Berlin Wall fell and Soviet-supported governments Eastern Europe were losing power.

Strobe Talbott, one of Brzezinski's long-time critics, conducted an interview with him for TIME magazine entitled "Vindication of a Hardliner."
After power
Brzezinski left office concerned about the internal division within the Democratic party, arguing that the dovish McGovernite wing would send the Democrats into permanent minority.

He had mixed relations with the Reagan administration. On the one hand, he supported it as seemingly the only alternative to the Democrat's pacifism, but he also strongly criticized it as seeing foreign policy in overly "Black & White" terms.

He remained involved in Polish affairs, critical of the imposition of Martial Law in Poland in 1981, and more so of Western European acquiescence to the imposition in the name of stability. Brzezinski briefed Vice President George Bush before his 1987 trip to Poland, which aided in the revival of the Solidarity movement.

In 1985, under the Reagan administration, Brzezinski served as a member of the President’s Chemical Warfare Commission. From 1987 to 1988, he worked on the NSC-Defense Department Commission on Integrated Long-Term Strategy. From 1987 to 1989 he also served on the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board.

In 1988, Brzezinski was co-chairman of the Bush National Security Advisory Task Force, and endorsed Bush for president, breaking with the Democratic party (coincidentally hurting the career of his former student Madeline Albright, who was Dukakis's foreign policy advisor). Brzezinski published The Grand Failure the same year, predicting the failure of Gorbachev's reforms and the eventual collapse of the Soviet Union in a few more decades. He said there were five possibilities for USSR: 1. Successful pluralization, 2. Protracted crisis, 3. Renewed stagnation, 4. Coup (KGB, Military) and 5. The explicit collapse of the Communist regime. He said #5 "at this stage a much more remote possibility" than alternative 2 (p. 245). He also predicted chances of some form of communism existing in Soviet in 2017 was a little more than 50% (p. 243). Finally when the end does come in a few more decades it will be "most likely turbulent" (p. 255). In the event the Soviet system collapsed totally in 1991 without bloodshed.

In 1989 the Communists failed to mobilize support, and Solidarity swept the general elections. Later the same year, Brzezinski toured Russia and visited a memorial to the Katyn Massacre. This served as an opportunity for him to ask the Soviet government to acknowledge the truth about the event, for which he received a standing ovation in the Soviet Academy of Sciences. Ten days later, the Berlin Wall fell and Soviet-supported governments Eastern Europe were losing power.

Strobe Talbott, one of Brzezinski's long-time critics, conducted an interview with him for TIME magazine entitled "Vindication of a Hardliner."

In 1990 Brzezinski warned against post-Cold War euphoria. He publicly opposed the Gulf War, arguing that the U.S. would squander the international goodwill it had accumulated by defeating the Soviet Union, and that it could trigger wide resentment throughout the Arab world. He expanded upon these views in his 1992 work Out of Control.

However, in 1993 Brzezinski was prominently critical of the Clinton administration's hesitation to intervene against Serbia in the Yugoslavian civil war. He also began to speak out against Russian oppression in Chechnya. Wary of a move toward the reinvigoration of Russian power, Brzezinski negatively viewed the succession of former KGB agent Vladimir Putin to Boris Yeltsin. In this vein, he became one of the foremost advocates of NATO expansion.

After 9/11 Brzezinski was criticized for his role in the formation of the mujaheddin network, which would later become Al Qaeda. He asserted that rightful blame ought to lay at the feet of the Soviet Union, whose invasion he claimed radicalized the relatively stable Muslim society.

Brzezinski also became a leading critic of the Bush administration's "war on terror." Some painted him as a neoconservative because of his links to Paul Wolfowitz and his 1997 book The Grand Chessboard, which frankly discussed U.S. empire. He wrote The Choice in 2004 which expanded upon The Grand Chessboard but sharply criticized the Bush administration's foreign policy.

more...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:09 PM
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14. To Me The Wiki Entry Defines A Neocon
Neoconservativism is primarily a movement among formerly Dems who became upset with the dovish attitude of the Dem party and were hawkish. They are often followers of Leo Strauss, and Scoop Jackson might be considered one of the original Neocons.

Brzezinski's career follows the neocon rise.

Maybe he isn't a pure Wolfowitz brand neocon, but I bet he's a James Woolsey kind of Neocon.

Of course a lot of the neocons aren't really beholden to Bush, he's just a tool of their grand PNAC plan. Bush is disposable to them.

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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 03:55 PM
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2. Let's impeach him, either way! nt
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:06 PM
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7. Yes Indeed
Get rid of the son of a bitch...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:10 PM
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9. But this time it's a slam dunk! n/t
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