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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:49 PM
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The beleaguered Bush White House has spent the last several weeks insisting that no major shake-up of the administration was necessary, and no reshuffling of personnel was in the works.

Hm.

The New York Times reported on Monday that James Baker III, the man who pulled George W. Bush's irons out of the fire in Florida during the 2000 recount, the Secretary of State and close confident of the former president Bush, has been tapped to head up a "congressionally mandated, bipartisan effort to generate new ideas" regarding the chaos in Iraq. Baker will travel to Baghdad and the Mideast region on a "fact-finding mission," after which he will deliver to Mr. Bush "some advice and insights that might be useful to the policy makers in Washington."

Whatever else can be said about Mr. Baker, few can deny his effectiveness as a field-general during difficult situations, and his reputation as a power-player is legendary in Washington. A man like this will not be a cipher under any circumstances, and the fact that he is being brought in to deal with the weightiest millstone around this administration's neck is telling.

At first blush, the tectonic plates appear to be shifting along Pennsylvania Avenue. The removal of Andy Card as chief of staff, and the placement of Josh Bolten in that position, further indicates that the administration, notwithstanding their denials, intends to start doing things differently. Bolten is looking to be far more hands-on than his predecessor, a significant departure from the insular status quo that has dominated administration deliberations since day one.

These seeming changes may only be cosmetic, however. The core of this administration has always been centered around three men - Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush - and this core remains, for the time being, intact. There is also the added dynamic of the relationship between Baker and Bush. Bush has never entirely welcomed advice from his father, and to have his father's most gifted fixer come swooping in to rescue him once again must be galling. Will he chafe at the intrusion? Will Cheney allow his own domination of administration priorities to be diminished?

The Defense Secretary is the wild card in the scenario. Rumsfeld, of course, has dug his heels in after absorbing unprecedented criticism of his tenure from a battery of six retired generals. Were it his decision to make, Rumsfeld would remain in his current position until the last minute of the last day of this administration. Ultimately, however, the decision may not be his to make.

New York Senator Hillary Clinton has requested that the Senate Armed Services Committee hold hearings in which those six retired generals would be allowed to air their grievances with Mr. Rumsfeld. The chairman of this committee, Senator John Warner of Virginia, has said he will put the question to a vote before the entire committee. The eleven Democrats on this committee will almost certainly vote in favor of the hearings, which means only two of the thirteen Republicans on the committee have to join them to make these hearings happen.

If Senator Collins of Maine and Senator McCain of Arizona, two Republicans who have been scathingly critical of Rumsfeld, can be convinced to vote with the Democrats on the hearings, we will see those six generals slated for a high-profile stomping of Rumsfeld up on Capitol Hill. If these two Republicans, or any two for that matter, cross the pond on this matter, the administration will be forced to deal with a Hobson's Choice: weather the catastrophic damage from six generals testifying about the failure of everything Rumsfeld has laid hands to, or accept his resignation and admit to the failure of everything he has laid his hands to.

Karl Rove, or so we hear, is also being moved aside, and is tasked to hold the Republican congressional majority together with both hands as the 2006 midterm elections loom. No one should be fooled, however; George W. Bush has relied on Rove's tactics and instincts for years, and will not allow his political consigliore to stray too far from the core. As with Rumsfeld, however, the choice may be out of Bush's hands. Fitzgerald is reportedly eyeing Rove in the Plame investigation, and it has been widely speculated that Rove's role is being de-emphasized in case an indictment is in the offing.

The confusion and potential upheaval does not stop there. The departure of press secretary Scott McClellan marks the end of a strange time in the White House press room. McClellan was, hands down, the single worst liar in Washington. His press conferences over the last few months came to resemble the contests between Christians and lions in the Roman Coliseum.

It has been no accident of fate that the most damaging revelations regarding administration activities have come out on his watch. An energized and combative press corps turned him, on an almost daily basis, into a stammering, beet-faced parody of a spokesman. His reported replacement, Tony Snow of Fox News, may come to fare better in running the gauntlet. But with so many horses already out the barn door, one wonders if anyone can effectively represent the message of an administration that has never been interested in answering questions or accepting responsibility for bad decisions.

Are things really changing in this White House, or are we merely seeing a superficial reshuffling that does not affect the center of things? Baker is coming in with all attendant power in tow. A vote on hearings in the Senate may provide enough dynamite to blast Rumsfeld out of his civil service sinecure. Rove has been moved to the side, and could join Scooter Libby on the long honor role of Republican White House staffers who have been indicted. Card is out and Bolten is in.

Bush and Cheney, of course, remain. What effect all these seeming changes will have on those two, and the administration in general, remains to be seen. At least we don't have to worry about any potential confusion or missteps that may come with a significant shake-up in the White House. As administration spokesmen have clearly said, such a reshuffling isn't happening, and isn't necessary.

Or something.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:54 PM
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1. James Baker III
is the closest thing this country has to a W. Averell Harriman today.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:57 PM
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2. {Whistling David Bowie}
:whistling smilie:

As I read this post I asked myself if Mr. "Decider" is the one who has made these decisions. Of course not, and that is why they are making this look so good.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:02 PM
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3. I thought we were up to 8 generals agreeing that
Rumsfeld has to go. As far as trusting McCain, I don't at all. He could try to wiggle his way out of his prior criticism.
The unfolding of this part of the drama will be interesting; thanks!
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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:16 AM
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20. Exactly - McCain has been thinking of 2008
as his recent (flip-flopping) embrace of Jerry Falwell demonstrates.

While he may think Rummy is screwing the military, I'd bet that his loyalties lie with his ambition before his principles. I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if he voted with the good guys on this one, because he needs so badly to shore up the right-flank of the GOP base.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:05 PM
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4. I believe they are merely repositioning and attempting to reenergize
Will it be effective? For * supporters its vindication, for * detrators its vindication,

for the realistic rest of us, its business as usual...and hardly encouraging one way or the other.
This administration is like a bad family vacation. After awhile all anyone wants is to go home, shut the door, quit spending money and stay out of trouble.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:12 PM
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5. Shouldn't Baker be on trial for treason?
He after all was one of the players in handing Florida to Bush in 2000 in a manner that wasn't in accord with the Constitution that being of bringing the Supreme Court in where it had no jurisdiction.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:13 PM
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6. I once heard that GHWB's greatest fear as an adult was that he
would do something that would result in the tarnishing of the prized "Walker" name, as in George Herbert Walker Bush. Imagine how he must feel knowing that "W" has made the name a partisan joke.

The thought of w. needing James Baker is very comforting to me.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:17 PM
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7. Verrrry interesting
That Baker is coming in. Junior can't be doing well if he's had to ask for Baker to bail him out. When (and not if) enough Republicans get sick of what Bush has done, my question is whether or not they will have the fortitude to call him on it, much like Barry Goldwater and his fellow Republicans did with Nixon.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:17 PM
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8. What are ya? Kidding me?
"The confusion and potential upheaval does not stop there." :rofl:
That's an understatement! :P

Like I give a crap if they shuffle the asshats around? NOPE!
Same shit , different liar!
Nothings changing at the White House except Junior's diaper!
What a joke!
And quite frankly, until November elections,
it doesn't matter who's spouting the lies and venom from the WH!

Do you actually think I listen to them?? :rofl:
I only hear the lies and look to dissprove it!

I can't wait until November!!
:)
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:18 PM
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9. Republican congressional minority? (paragraph beginning "Karl Rove")
Wishful thinking maybe. We can but hope.

I'm beginning to hope you really do have a crystal ball.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:21 PM
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10. Hilarious
I must have unconsciously been indulging in wishful thinking there.

Thanks, fixed. :)
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:46 PM
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14. Shucks, you had me going there for a minute
I hope it's a case of preternatural prescience.

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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:29 PM
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11. I thought I remembered reading in Newsweek that Baker came in a month ago
Quietly, and without fanfare. When I read that, it made sense that he is the one who is pushing for the (admittedly minor and cosmetic at least for now) changes.

I bet the sulky look on *'s face these days must be sour enough to make lemonade. I'm sure he hates this. He's gotta know how it looks to politcal junkies.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:35 PM
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12. Don't forget Miers. Word is that Bolten is canning her.
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 06:35 PM by ReadTomPaine
They are in full disaster control mode, no doubt about it.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 06:44 PM
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13. I think Miers was toast after the failed SC nomination.
Frankly, I'm surprised she hasn't already purged herself.

Gack, that whole freaky "Bush is the smartest man on the planet" shit??!!

She's had a bullseye on her back for a loooonnng time.

Whoever is running the purge machine knows Harriet's days are numbered. She's an embarrassment and an easy one to "resign".
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 08:32 PM
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15. James Baker III = SATAN!
NO, doubt about it.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 11:27 PM
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16. plink
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:25 AM
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17. Changes - link to final
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:41 AM
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18. We should start mass writing Republicans
to find 2 people who will join the democrats. It's an election year where they are nervous, it's not that far-fetched that at least two would vote for hearings.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:41 AM
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19. Change is one thing,
progress is another.

-Russell
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