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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 02:57 PM
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Rove will NOT BE indicted
Who wants to take bets with me. If Rove is indicted, I will change my sig line to "I'm the dimbulb who thought Rove wouldn't be indicted. - alcibiades_mystery" for three months.

If Rove is not indicted, you have to change your sig line to "alcibiades_mystery made me look silly about Rove" for three months.

Timeframe: 1 month, 30 days. Rove must be indicted within the next 30 days for you to win. But, as a hedge, you can take down the sig line if Rove is indicted anytime during the following 3 months, and I'll put up mine.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:00 PM
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1. Looks like he may already have gotten a target letter
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:00 PM
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2. I am going to bookmark this post.lol n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:12 PM
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20. Please do...I'll even include the link in the new sig line if I lose
Will you do the same? Declare.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:20 PM
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31. Sure, but what is the timeframe? n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:27 PM
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35. Timeframe is in your favor
Your sig line must go up if Rove is NOT indicted within 30 days. It must stay up for three consecutive months following that 30 day period.

My signature line will go up immediately upon news that Rove has been indicted, should he be indicted in the next 30 days, and will stay up for 3 months from that point.

As a bonus: If Rove is not indicted in the next 30 days, but is indicted at any time during the 3 month penalty, you can immediately take your penalty signature line down and I will immediately put mine up, but only until the end of the initial 3 month period.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:53 PM
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49. 30 days is not in my favor, since...
I am not sure any indictments would come down before fall. This GJ just began less than 6mos ago. Libby's came down at the end of that last GJ.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:01 PM
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50. You essentially have 4 months
I mean jeez, of course we're not "sure." What would be the purpose of betting if we were sure?
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:15 PM
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52. Well betting on the indictment is one thing...within 30 days...
is unrealistic.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:01 PM
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3. Do you know what a target letter is?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1031430

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1030979

They only send them out to folks they intend to indict.

Stupid post - stupid bet - my mom taught me not to take advantage of folks. Taking your bet would be taking advantage of you.

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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:12 PM
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19. LOL
If I believed everything on RawStory...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:18 PM
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26. How about Truthout?
Champagne is chillin'...:)
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:19 PM
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28. It's the same fucking story
Jason Leopold, King of Tall Tales.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:20 PM
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32. Are you SERIES??? THIS IS HUGH!! Honestly, I've never heard anyone
say that about Jason Leopold.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:01 PM
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4. I think it's only fair that you explain why you don't think he'll be
indicted.

I wouldn't wanna make a suckers bet. :)
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:02 PM
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5. good point and an interesting OP n/t
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:02 PM
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6. why do you think that?
what's your reasoning?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:03 PM
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7. Go ahead - fuck with the jinx
When will you civilians (non-lawyers) realize that you're just hexing THE WHOLE THING when you start playing these mindless games on the basis on no zip none nada zilch information/knowledge?

Let it go. Let it unwind. You know nothing. I know nothing. No one knows anything. Fitzgerald is in charge, and he's very good at his job.

And stop this stuff. We old lawyers take it very seriously. I've seen the jinx at work far too many times. Ask any old lawyer.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:13 PM
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21. Jinx, schminx
The brother ain't going down, and it's just about that simple. Declare for the bet, OLL.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:17 PM
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25. Tell me the source of your powerful information
That's always a good way to find out who's blowing smoke.

So, how do you know this, my friend?

And, by the way, respect for a time-honored jinx is a sign of intelligence. You don't know until you've been smote that you've made a big mistake. Ask any old lawyer. Go ahead.

Anyway, I await the source of your insider information. Thank you.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:18 PM
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27. Who said anything about insider information?
This is gambling, ace. Roll of the dice. Curious though, that nobody has yet taken the bet, isn't it?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:33 PM
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:39 PM
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43. Harumph
:eyes:

Bet or don't bet, but why be a ninny?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:03 PM
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8. Sucker bet
First of all, IF Rove is indicted, sig lines will be turned off because of the high traffic when all of the freeper heads start exploding.
You wouldn't have to hold up your end of the bargain.:evilgrin:
If he isn't, business as usual.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:09 PM
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14. I promise not to disapper for three months if Ohio State wins
er...I mean if Rove is indicted. Surely, sig lines will not be turned off for 3 months!
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:04 PM
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9. Hmmm...
How about the winner creates up your sig...Doble or nothin'! :P
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:09 PM
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15. OK, but then the opposite applies as well
;-)
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:05 PM
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10. Still waiting for you to answer this >>>
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:51 PM
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53. Me too. Tick tock, tick tock.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:05 PM
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11. The odds are so against you...
An indictment is being sought already. Rove went in of his own voalition to try and persuade them it was all innocent and the first 8 times shouldn't count. That's a gutsy bet when the deck is already stacked so high against you.;)
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:10 PM
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18. I'm a big sucker, then
Bet against me. Please!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:05 PM
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12. I don't want to bet with you. Your gender is undeclared.
:-)
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:38 PM
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42. !!!!!!
:rofl:
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:09 PM
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13. I won't take your bet alcibiades_mystery
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 03:09 PM by pointblank
but I WILL join you in changing my sig-line to:

"I'm one of the dimbulbs who thought Rove wouldn't be indicted. - pointblank"

I don't think he will be indicted either. I hate to say it but right now I believe that slimy son of a bitch and the rest of the Bush cabal are untouchable.

I hope I get to change my sig-line.


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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:03 PM
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51. The prime reason they are untouchable...
is solely because so many people, like you, believe it. Checked the polls recently? That belief level is leaking like a New Orleans levee. I believe Rove and Cheney will both be indicted. It's a matter of conviction.
:)
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Chomp Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:10 PM
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16. I keep asking myself:
If Rove was going to be indicted, why the sideways move in the recent WH shake-up? Why not get rid of him completely if they knew he was about to bit it?

Assuming the WH know what's coming down the line (which one suspects they must), I don't know why he is still so close to the big boys.

That makes me wonder if they know he is safe.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:30 PM
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37. Stalling for time, that's all.
Sometimes I think the Bush WH does things in stages to soften a blow they know they can't avoid. They don't want to have TOO big a mess when it all hits the fan at once, so they try to slow it down when they know they can't stop it. That's how I interpreted last week's mini-shakeup when they retired Scotty and relieved Karl of "some" of his duties anyway.

Stalling for time allows them to create the "look over there!" distractions they love so much.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:10 PM
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17. booo hisss... don't rain on my happy dance.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:14 PM
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22. A proposed amendment to your bet, alcibiades_mystery.
I want to dive in to the speculation but I thought Dick Gephardt would win the 2004 Iowa caucus.

At least early on.

When he was buried alive, it was clear my early prediction skills sucked. So I won't jump in on the Rove indictment question.

I will propose this amendment: I say that on or just before June 1st of this year, Karl Rove will be the victim of spontaneous combustion, one of those rare statistical anomalies.

It will happen at a gas pump in Arlington, Virginia.

Late at night.

The tabloids will bray like jackasses for weeks that foul play was afoot, but none will have been; the guy will just have blown up in and of his own volition.

When that much evil bile backs up in your system for that long, a spontaneous KABOOM is the only logical outcome.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:40 PM
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44. When you know the exact time and location, let me know!
I'm about an hour or so west of Arlington, and I'll have to get there early because of traffic, but what an event!

I may even bring a snack. :)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:47 PM
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46. LOL!
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:16 PM
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23. It's a wash at this point
Basically, you're just betting on the accuracy of Rawstory's info. All we know for sure at this point is that he's been called back to testify, which is promising but not definite.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:17 PM
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24. Uncertainty would certainly be part of the bet
That's why it's a bet, you know?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:20 PM
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29. I think he'll be indicted - but Bush will pardon him
I don't make bets on DU because I tend to lose.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:33 PM
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39. the beauty is, he can't pardon him without handing the Dems
the 2006 elections.

Nixon...and Ford all over again.. If pardons him or Libby he looks like a co-conspirator (which he is).

then again perhaps you are right. Could it be why they released the fact that Bush "declassified information" to soften the reasoning for the pardon? You can hear it now right. "Since I declassified that there is no reason to not pardon him."

Either way I don't the republican party is a party of can do anymore, It's stained with Iraq, high gas prices, an endless war endless debt, a failing economy (disintegrating middle class). The bad news is, we are going to inherit their mess YET again to clean up.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:20 PM
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30. YOU ARE ON!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:23 PM
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33. FINALLY...someone takes the BET!
Where are all the confident DUers? Where, I say?
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:36 PM
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40. Finally? It only took 20 minutes!
You need more patience if you want to gamble right ;)
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:48 PM
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47. Rove is GOING to be indicted!

He just received a target letter....a letter sent when the prosecutor has signicant evidence that a person is involved in a crime.

Fitz is THE Irish Alligator!

He is going to CHOMP on Rove!

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:24 PM
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34. Speculation sucks.
I dig that the focus is on his walking corpse self. I hope his skivvies have brown steaks in them.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:28 PM
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36. "Don't spend it 'til you got it" is what I always remind myself.
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 03:28 PM by quiet.american
Who would of thought Bushco would have gotten away with everything they've done so far. I won't be satisfied this is going anywhere until Rove has to post bail.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:38 PM
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41. Fitz must really like him. He's had him there five times.
FIVE TIMES BEFORE THE GRAND JURY!!!! Karl must be living in hell. I can't wait for the frog-march.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:47 PM
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45. I don't think ROve will be indicted either.
Why do I think this?

Because my fondest dreams NEVER come true!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:49 PM
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48. i'll wait for Fitzgerald like last time, it's not worth driving myself
crazy over with all the specualtion.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 12:11 AM
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54. Kick to keep the bet front and center
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 12:33 AM
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55. He's going down, baby!


At least that's what I am going to dream about tonight.
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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 12:39 AM
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56. I'll do it .... I'll take your bet.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 12:43 AM
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57. Visualise this alcibiades_mystery:
I do, every day. :)



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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 12:57 AM
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58. I'm with you baby - and your visual (rove being eaten by sharks). I'm
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 12:57 AM by OhNoTheyDidNot
taking this bet .... just need the poster to confirm
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:00 AM
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59. b-b-b-be c-c-c-cc-careful!!!
y-y-you may b-bb-bee d-dealing with a c-c-card sh-sh-shhharkkk! :D



:D

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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:03 AM
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60. WOW - Even better. I live dangerously - I will still take the bet ...
AWESOME ART BTW - is your stuff in any galleries?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:10 AM
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61. h-h-hhh-here:
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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:18 AM
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62. WOW - I REALLY like the rove, rush and leiberman ones but I meant a galler
gallery like - where people pay for your art .... (specifically the ones I am talking about are the 'lizard' ones - green faces - warped. Are any of these bumber stickers (vote republican again) types .. ?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:38 AM
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63. That's all I have at the moment.
Nothing for sale. You can download any you like and print it out at home, FREE! :D

Maybe someday I will do a limited printing of high resolution versions.

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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:46 AM
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64. Sure wish I was in a 'power position' in life swamp ... cuz your stuff
along with my husbands, would be in a very prominent gallery. But I'm poor. :(
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