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cpousnret Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:28 PM
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i see where there is a recession coming
based on the concept that the 90 day t-bill is drawing better then the 30 year t-note,anyone familar with this.peace,chief
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:35 PM
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1. it's called an "inverse yield curve"
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:36 PM
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2. Coming? (n/t)
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 04:09 AM
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6. No doubt. The recession is already here, it's the Depression I'm worried
about.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:49 AM
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7. Used to worry about the coming depression too
Now I am more concerned with the coming Dark Ages
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 11:35 AM
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8. No doubt - RFID implants - Total surveillance - Forced State drugs...
...It's going to get very dark.

I remember watching the movie "Schindler's List" and the part that illustrates how the Nazi's literally were going to attempt to erase history so that people would eventually never learn about anything in the world except for Nazism.

The idea was so sinister and so real that it shocked me. I have a feeling that with today's technology there are even darker plans coming our way...
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:02 PM
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11. Was thinking more along the lines of feudal system dark ages
No education for the masses dark ages

Got plague? dark ages

There are more widening gaps than just the financial ones. It amazes me to see the high tech weapons and surveillance equipment contrasted to the expanding populations which are barely clinging to subsistence level existence. Now, THERE is a gap.

Feasts in castles for the lords, mud for the rest of us dark ages....
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:22 PM
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13. Read up on The Straussians that control the Republicans.
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 01:22 PM by alfredo
A good quote to get you started;

''those who are fit to rule are those who realise there is no morality and that there is only one natural right, the right of the superior to rule over the inferior.'' -
Leo Strauss

From this page:

The next step in the evolution of this affair followed from Seymour Hersh’s report in the May 5th issue of The New Yorker that the head of Rumsfeld disinformation operation was none other than one Adam Shulsky, a “Straussian” conservative,” who had once co-authored an article on Leo Strauss and role of deception in intelligence operations. The significance of this link went beyond Strauss’ belief that the inter-state relations were characterized by rivalries that often dealt in the currency of deceit and deception. What cut to the heart of the current affair was his belief, as William Pfaff put it, “that the essential truths about society and history should be held by an elite, and withheld from others who lack the fortitude to deal with truth. Society, Strauss thought, needs consoling lies.” This concept of the “consoling lie” became the journalistic key to how and why the Office of Special Operations had in the words of one of its staffers, Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski, carried off: what she describes as “a subversion of constitutional limits on executive power and a co-optation through deceit of a large segment of the Congress.”


this article is well worth reading.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:33 PM
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14. Yeah, I think it'll be a combination of both - two worlds really....
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 01:34 PM by file83
...I don't think the elite will ever have their bubble's burst - they'll always be protected by a shell or cocoon of wealth, power, and technology.

But the rest of the 99% of the world will probably live in either total despair (the "dark ages" you speak of) or in a complete population control-grid "Police State" with a very low standard of living, kind of like the shittiest parts of China right now.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:47 PM
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15. Nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.
That was once a funny line ... now, not so funny.

I try to be positive, however, and consider that history is spiraling upward and things are moving toward a greater enlightenment, a new golden age -- but first the forces of greed and fundamentalism must be dealt with and discarded, and that's the process we're now in. It may not be pretty for a while, but I think we're going to get through this.

That's what I choose to believe.

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 02:54 PM
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18. May you live long enough to see it realized
I'm not young and am willing to be in the front line shock troops in the fight for humanity at this point
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 11:37 AM
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9. Not yet
At least, there is no recession according to the universally accepted definition of recession: 2 quarters of negative GDP.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:38 PM
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3. what AX said, here is a link
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cpousnret Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 03:54 AM
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5. they didn`t
teach that in econ 101
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:45 PM
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4. it is what has been referred to as an inverted yield
when the long bond pays less than the short ones in almost everycase it has accurately predicted a recession to follow

The business talking head have been trying to say it will be an exception this time, but they have been writing off everything including the price of energy
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 12:09 PM
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10. They can now print money at will without reporting on it
:shrug: Do you think they care one whit?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:05 PM
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12. Did you hear about the contingency plan to mint our money overseas
in the event of Bird Flu making the mint workers unavailable? Heard that once on the news, then NADA.

Outsourcing the work of already unaccountable mints... gee, guys like Chalabi must LOVE that idea.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:51 PM
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16. It is concievable that one day, in the not too distant future....


those of us associated with DU will actually have to go "underground." I know the thought scares the hell out of me, but as some here on this thread have pointed out, there are way too many personal controls being placed upon us by this "dictatorship."
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:55 PM
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17. Despite what the NeoCons want us to believe, we've been in....
...a recession since March 2001.

And it's going to get much worse.
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