We actively sabotage ourselves

[cornermouse]

How many times have you heard a country western song where a redneck outsmarts that wimpy little educated city slicker preppie? Rap is the same thing from a different direction.

How many times have you seen bumperstickers saying things like "my child can beat up your honor roll student"?

We cherish the illusion that our kids were going to go to college but when they go to school, their classmates discourage them because if your child succeeds, its going to make them look bad.

Given this, why do we still wonder how Bush got support and votes?

[mdmc]

1. it ain't easy

it would be much easier to be mean

[bedpanartist]

5. you gotta' be mean

old school Democrats used to know all about kicking ass. It's a dog eat dog world comprised of living things eating other living things. Get used to it.

The pussification of the Democratic party led to its ultimate demise, IMNHO. I can see it every day on the mean streets of Dayton, Ohio - a once great Democratic stronghold that has crumbled for 30 years straight.

[mdmc]

28. i'll take my reward on the flip side

and turn the other cheek.

I hear you, and your desire for strength. I firmly believe that the only strength is kindness.

of course, i have no job, and no electricity in my home, so take what i say with a grain of salt.

[bedpanartist]

30. it goes both ways

strength can also be derived from bullying bullies too. Someone's gotta' do it. Turning the other cheek only gets you punched twice.

[mdmc]

35. never be a bully. never be a victim.

but NEVER be a witness to a bully victimizing a victim!


Good point and God bless!

[AX10]

2. True. I can't stand Rap and Country "Music".

"How many times have you heard a country western song where a redneck outsmarts that wimpy little educated city slicker preppie? Rap is the same thing from a different direction."

It's not "music", just a bunch of crap being spouted, sort of like Rush and Co.

[bedpanartist]

6. labeling an entire genre is just ignorant

lots of rap music is FABULOUS. I grew up on Public Enemy and NWA.

I'm also a distant relative of Merle Haggard - another genius. Lots and lots more great country was made before corporatization took over.

[pitohui]

10. merle haggard has anti-war video on his web site right now

http://www.merlehaggard.com/

"rebuild america first"

i think he's only slightly bitter abt all the $$$ going to iraq instead of helping build our damn levees and the rest of it!

freedom's stuck in reverse/let's get out of iraq/get back on the track/let's rebuild america first/why don't we liberate these united states/we're the ones who need it most/you think i'm blowing smoke/boys it ain't no joke/i make twenty trips a year from coast to coast

[WhiteTara]

12. I'm glad to see you are against ignorance

bedpanartist. So, because of that, I would like to let you know that when people use slang for a woman's vagina used in a demeaning and belittleling way, I am offended. Ihope that as another human being striving not to be ignorant, that you will find other words to demean and belittle without doing emotional harm to over half of the people on the planet. Thanks
Welcome to DU BTW :hi:

[bedpanartist]

14. ahh...I have never belittled a vagina

only made 'em bigger. ;-)

[WhiteTara]

37. this is the phrase

The pussification of the Democratic party led to its ultimate demise, IMNHO. I can see it every day on the mean streets of Dayton, Ohio - a once great Democratic stronghold that has crumbled for 30 years straight.

Amazons just hate that term.
:)

[bedpanartist]

38. I don't hate any terms

One can certainly make an argument that the heyday of the Democratic Party was during its identification with proletarian knuckle-draggin sunsabitches who would knock you in the mouth for crossing a picket line or dared screwing with the working class. That's if you were lucky.

[AX10]

15. It is ignorance to use a demeaning term when refering to...

a woman's private areas.

See your own post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1033033#1033108

Consider this the next time you critisize others.

[bedpanartist]

18. whatever

I observe people and report on what they are doing. Like I said, I have never belittled a vagina, only made 'em bigger.

[AX10]

19. ......

:eyes:

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[blonndee]

24. With your shitty attitude

I bet you've never even SEEN a real one, let alone "scored" one.

[bedpanartist]

29. funny

I was just having fun.

And if what you think is true, I would have probably had a lot less trouble in my life due to the wimminfolk ;-)

[JuniperLea]

34. You have a right to your opinions

But others have the right to their differing opinions as well. There is a difference between being politically incorrect and being crass and disgusting.

If your mind is so closed that you cannot consider anything, don't be surprised if your posts cease to evoke responses... many of us will have you on our ignore list.

Just trying to offer some friendly advice in a non-threatening way. I mean no offense.

[JuniperLea]

32. Awesome! Love the Haggard dude!

Saw him live with my granny many years ago.

I have found much to appreciate in nearly every genre of music. I'm a metal head... but I love the blues... and classic country, like your kin... I think 99% of the new country stuff blows corral cookies:)

[Jigarotta]

16. I love all music,

all expressions. They're all messages. Have ears.

[AX10]

17. and that is your right just as it is my right to chose what I listen too.

[Jigarotta]

27. absolutely true.

but you may be missing out if you only want to hear what you 'like'.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

20. The old-school Country was fine.

Johnny Cash and all the ones who could easily fit into rock or country. This new crap all sounds the same, as if they just use a "Country Music Lyric Generator."

The Country Western Song Machine
http://www.outofservice.com/country/

[AX10]

26. I agree with that sentiment. Especially about the "new breed"...

sounding all alike. "Country Music Lyric Generator", both funny and sad :rofl:

[JuniperLea]

3. Yep...

It's all part of the dumbing down of America. It's not cool to be smart or successful; you are treated as a freak.

Very sad.

[bedpanartist]

8. dumbing down? when was America smart to begin with?

the term "dumbing down" would imply that America was once a smart nation to begin with. We've NEVER been a smart country, we've only possessed smart people. But the populace as a whole is a lot more interested
in driving around the parking lot at Burger King trying to score pussy and weed.

[JuniperLea]

31. Surely you jest!

A couple of years ago I found some old school books that belonged to my grandmother... I swear in 6th grade those kids had to learn a hell of a lot more than I ever did! I Googled up some old school tests and did some reading on what school used to be in the US... and the average IQs and stuff... seriously, we are much dumber... as a whole.

[bedpanartist]

39. when television arrived in color, in every living room

the whole book gig was up. Homogenization of the culture was possible through means of controlling the limited broadcast spectrum. Then a multi-decade barrage of corporate advertising was able to transform the culture through football, beer, nuclear bombs and Chevrolets. We've been corporate stupid and consumeristic like this for decades, so I guess I mean, it's been awhile since Americans as a nation have had a clue.

[JuniperLea]

40. TV? What's that?

Many of us only watch C-Span and PBS:) And read too. My kid, who loves TV, is many years into studying chemical engineering. There are still some brains out there. There is hope.

[bedpanartist]

41. you are the choir

they speak of when speaking to the choir. The people paying attention aren't the ones that count right now.

[AlCzervik]

4. Bush appeals to frat boy punk ass segment of society.

[pitohui]

7. yes people are not interested in games that are stacked against them

whether you acknowledge it or not, it is v. damn hard for the "redneck" to care abt college when he knows that going to college just means more debt to end up in the same place

it isn't necessarily stupid to have your eyes open and see when the game in front of you is three card monte

most people go to college, most i know anyway, it doesn't seem to get them v. far unless they have something else going on (like their dad owns the company or is a high officer in a large corporation)

i don't disrespect people for being bitter and being realistic abt how far they're going to get by working real hard, all most of them will get is tired and cheated, you can't blame some of them for not even wanting to try in advance

[Joe Chi Minh]

11. Tha's what it's about. In a jungle-ethic society, bullying in

schools, like crime everywhere, inevitably becomes rampant. According to reports in our papers, unsurprisingly, it's very bad in the UK.

[HereSince1628]

9. Just like drugs...if you don't talk to your children they won't know how

to respond.

Some people hate education. My ex-actively discouraged my kids from going to college. She even denied letting me take them as tax dependents in each of their high school senior year so that the college I was teaching at would recognize them as eligible for FREE tuition.

[devilgrrl]

13. Who's "WE"?

????

[AX10]

22. I know what you are saying.

I have done nothing to sabatoge myself.

[devilgrrl]

25. Neither have I...

so who is the OP talking about?

[Epiphany4z]

21. I am not sure how it happened

but in my house good grades and getting into a good college seems to be as competitive for my children as sports are for others. I just have not had any problems with pressure from MTV or friends to dumb down or at even act it.

There is no magic bullet reason that I can place as how this happens. I really do feel spoiled sometimes.

[JuniperLea]

36. I've had the same experience

The only thing I can think of that may have contributed to all three of my kids going to college is that we started talking about college very mater of factly... like when you say, yes, you are in kindergarten and you will go through 6th grade in this school... then you will change schools and go through the next grades, etc., then you will go to college. I talked about it as if it were a given and there was no choice in the matter.


Clearly they could have refused to go had they wanted to skip it, but they didn't!

[Ksec]

33. dumb is the new black

and the US is the trendsetter. We believe anything they feed us and then wonder why we have these idiots running the country.