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grottieyottie Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:43 PM
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Stormfront, a racist, NeoNazi, hate organization, features Tony Snow
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 07:04 PM by grottieyottie


On martinlutherking.org, a site hosted by stormfront.org a nasty white supremacy group - Tony Snow has an interesting article in which he tries to discredit Kwanza.

...Now, the point: There is no part of Kwanzaa that is not fraudulent. Begin with the name. The celebration comes from the Swahili term “matunda yakwanza,” or “first fruit,” and the festival’s trappings have Swahili names — such as “ujima” for “collective work and responsibility” or “muhindi,” which are ears of corn celebrants set aside for each child in a family.


Worse, Kwanzaa ceremonies have no discernible African roots. No culture on earth celebrates a harvesting ritual in December, for instance, and the implicit pledges about human dignity don't necessarily jibe with such still-common practices as female circumcision and polygamy. The inventors of Kwanzaa weren't promoting a return to roots; they were shilling for Marxism. They even appropriated the term "ujima," which Julius Nyrere cited when he uprooted tens of thousands of Tanzanians and shipped them forcibly to collective farms, where they proved more adept at cultivating misery than banishing hunger.

Even the rituals using corn don't fit. Corn isn't indigenous to Africa. Mexican Indians developed it, and the crop was carried worldwide by white colonialists.

The fact is, there is no Ur-African culture. The continent remains stubbornly tribal. Hutus and Tutsis still slaughter one another for sport.

Go to Kenya, where I taught briefly as a young man, and you'll see endless hostility between Kikuyu, Luo, Luhya and Masai. Even South African politics these days have more to do with tribal animosities than ideological differences.


The byline on the article is for Tony Snow - a columnist for the Detroit News.

Tony Snow’s bio on the Fox News website states:

TONY SNOW'S BIO from Foxnews.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,112960,00.html

Tony Snow is the host of the "Tony Snow Show" on Fox News Radio and "Weekend Live with Tony Snow" on the FOX News Channel. He served as the host of "FOX News Sunday" from 1996 to 2003. Snow also wrote a syndicated newspaper column, which appeared in more than 200 papers across the nation, from 1993 to 2002. (He plans to begin writing and syndicating the column again soon). Snow also had a long career in newspapers, dating back to 1979. He worked at The Greensboro Record, The Norfolk Virginian-Pilot; The Daily Press (Newport News, Virginia), the Detroit News and The Washington Times. He took a two-year break from journalism to serve in the administration of President George H.W. Bush, where he served first as the White House Speechwriting director, and later as a deputy assistant to the president for Media Affairs. Snow has a B.A. in philosophy from Davidson College, and did graduate work in philosophy and economics at the University of Chicago. He also has worked as an advocate for the mentally ill and developmentally disabled in North Carolina, taught physics and East African Geography in Kenya, and has done substitute teaching in everything from calculus to seventh-grade art class. He is an avid musician and has played with some rock ‘n’ roll legends. (He plays flute, alto flute, soprano sax, alto sax, tenor sax and guitar.) He belongs to a cover band, Beats Workin’, which features fellow Washington-area professionals. Snow and his wife, Jill, were married in 1987. They have three children and a constantly shifting band of domestic animals, which currently includes three dogs, a cat and three guinea pigs.


Read complete article

http://www.martinlutherking.org/kwanzaa.html

If the site is down - try the google cache here. (it seems to be).

http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:4YCKheXew_sJ:www.martinlutherking.org/kwanzaa.html+&hl=en&lr=&strip=1



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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:44 PM
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1. Mr. Snow is a racist.
Seems pretty cut and dried at this point, after his comments to Rush Limbaugh and now this. Oh boy.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:46 PM
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2. no, YOU'RE a racist
because you're predjudiced against rascists!

yup, :sarcasm:
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:47 PM
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5. see?
liberals just aren't TOLERANT... of racists!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:48 PM
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6. lol!
I'm sure they'd try to spin it that way, somehow. :crazy:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:05 PM
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20. not a racist, just an intolerant, bigoted hypocrite
Because, your anti-racist agenda proves that you are intolerant of racists, and since you are intolerant but preach tolerance then you are a hypocrite.


that's right wing logic, right there.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:37 PM
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27. This clown won't last two weeks. n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:50 PM
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28. You have what it takes to work at Faux "news"!
Just take that stupid "sarcasm" thingie away and you got yourself a job!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:47 PM
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3. According to the Tonester racism doesn't exist anymore
Stormfront is just...a different point of view :crazy:
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:47 PM
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4. Nazi Boy.... How Fitting (nt)
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:49 PM
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7. Hell, I knew there was a reason Shrub picked him.....
....have been trying to figure out the reason ever since they announced he took the job....makes sense now...
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Sunkiss BlueStar Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:50 PM
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8. The Decider
taps a racist for a spokesmen , how convenient.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:51 PM
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9. "No culture on earth celebrates a harvesting ritual in December"
I haven't looked that one up, but offhand, does Snow not realize it's not winter everywhere in December? For example in a significant portion of Africa?

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WhoWantsToBeOccupied Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:44 AM
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33. Whereas the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus are totally authentic!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:51 PM
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10. I always love when an extremly White Bigoted Rich Male
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 06:52 PM by MadMaddie
tries to explain my culture and anything new and positive that we try to introduce into our culture. :sarcasm:

I don't practice Kwanza but if other African Americans choose to do so...this is America after all and freedom of religion and beliefs is as American as Apple pie.

Am I surprised that * picked a neo facist nazi pig to be his spokesperson....nope...no surprise here....hows his point spread? I am hoping to see it hit 30%!!
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Sunkiss BlueStar Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:59 PM
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14. HELLO!
I agree totally. We are a diverse people but we mind our own business and rarely tell each other what to celebrate. I have a problem with easter for instance.

Did you happen to see the interview he did with Jon Stewart where he shared his glee of fox viewers picking at Juan Williams?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:01 PM
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15. I missed that show...I will look for it in the reruns....
:hi:
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Sunkiss BlueStar Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:15 PM
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23. It was a while ago
so they may skip over it when re runnin leftovers. But Jon looked at him like "Picking on Juan Williams makes you happy?"

Tony Snow had the hugest smile on his face and he was holding his knee when he laughed. "DISGUSTING"

:hi: and HELLO! again
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:53 PM
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11. Stormfront is a blanket organization that pulls all the white
supremist and neo-Nazi organizations together like the Minutemen for instance. It tells me that if our government is looking for people from these organizations to work in the White House, the Bush Administration and Fox news must have ties to them.

Of course in true Nazi style they will accuse you of being unpatriotic if you object to this person and his ties.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:58 PM
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12. Snow said Racicm is no big deal--look on LBN
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:58 PM
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13. The Detroit News is a legitimate newspaper
Just because some skinheads reproduce an article that appeared there on their web site doesn't make the author of said article affiliated with that web site.

That said, the content of the article speaks for itself.

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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:02 PM
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16. How dare these bastards slander Dr. King!
Sonofabitch! I'm really angry about this groups use of Reverend Dr. King's name like that is just sick. They have no references to back up their claims, thwey just spew out racist shit and expect people to believe it. Fuck these assholes!
I apologize if anyone is offended by my swearing. But after reading some of the stuff on that foul website, I was truly angry. I suppose they aren't really worth anyone's time in reality.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:03 PM
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17. Snow: Racism no longer 'a big deal'


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2249244


Wed Apr-26-06 02:54 PM
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RAW STORY: Snow: Racism no longer 'a big deal'


RAW STORY
Published: Wednesday April 26, 2006


Print This | Email This


Tony Snow, conservative pundit and incoming White House press secretary, told television viewers in 2003 that racism is no longer a "big deal," RAW STORY has learned.

Ironically, the remarks were made in defense of Rush Limbaugh's assertion that quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated by a media showing preferential bias to "black quarterbacks."

"Here's the unmentionable secret," Snow said on an October 2003 edition of Fox News Sunday, "racism isn't that big a deal anymore." Snow argued that "no sensible person supports" racism, arguing that the problem is "quickly becoming an ugly memory."


http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Snow_Racism_no_longer...
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:03 PM
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18. Who gives a fuck what some whitebread...
...cracker Nazi motherfucker thinks about Kwanza? It's no smarter or stupider a holiday than Christmas, which is also just a bunch of made up shit and stuff borrowed from other traditions!
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:44 AM
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34. good point
Snow seems to be a "man of faith" and a devout Christian. I'd like to see him try and defend the use of Santa Claus and how that relates to the birth of Jesus. The date of Christmans isn't even on Jesus' real birthday! (Celebrated mostly by Christians, the holiday is based on the traditional —though not accurate— birth of Jesus, as 25 December. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas) Most of Snow's anti-Kwanzaa arguments could probably be adapted to launch a real "War on Christmas"!

But no, its those crazy Kwanzaa people that don't know what they're doing....:sarcasm:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:04 PM
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19. And now, so does the Bush White House
hmm...

Very interesting
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:07 PM
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21. Worst! Absolute Most Humiliating...
Worse administration = EVER!

Embarrassed. I'm one horribly embarrassed American thanks to this stinkin' bunch ruining our country! Oh, they're running it alright, right smack down into the ground. Just when you think * can't stoop us any lower, Tony Snow chosen to speak before US and the world.

1 serious :puke: moment. If this doesn't prove beyond a shadow of doubt that Faux-News is strung to the WH, don't know what else will.

:rant:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:08 PM
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22. Kick this Bad Boy Upwards...
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:20 PM
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24. Crony Snow can kiss my brown ass
disgusting piece of bigotry...

Why would anyone have a problem with people who celebrate Kwanzaa or any other cultural event? And why should anyone give a shit what Crony Snowjob thinks?
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:22 PM
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25. Tony Snow used to write for the Detroit News...
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 07:22 PM by Lefty48197
which is the literary equivalent of Stromfront.org
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:24 PM
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26. Dear Tony Snowjob
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 07:25 PM by SalmonChantedEvening
In the Southern hemisphere, December is akin to June here.

Harvest rituals preceding the harvest itself are uncommon WHERE?

Besides your small, empty mind, that is...

Celebrated by Stormfront. Nuff Said.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:23 PM
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29. Send this to KOlbermann & call the WH -- this is DISGUSTING!!
They've appointed a KKK member to be their spokesperson -- and remember he is going to have the President's Ear moreso than Snotty Scotty.

Olbermann's email: countdown@msnbc.com

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Phone Numbers
Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
FAX: 202-456-2461
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:55 PM
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30. Snowjob is beginning to look like a Harriet Miers.
I'm not impressed with the Decider's new mouthpiece.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:58 PM
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31. The Bush White House...
a racist, neo-nazi, hate organization features Tony Snow.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:51 PM
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32. ttt n/t
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:11 PM
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35. This guy is a real piece of work.
What a dirt-bag! I see "The Decider" has heard the voices and made yet another fine decision... :eyes:

Kicked and recommended.
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