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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:44 PM
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Border Security? Have you seen our border?
I'm a North-easterner so my weekend trip to Arizona was my first opportunity to see exactly what all the hype was about. Now, I try to avoid getting into the immigration debate and I'm gonna stay out of it. This is about Securing our Borders from true Illegals (drug-traffickers, murderers, foreign agents and the like. I don't care if people are coming here to work though I do care about the slave wages they're forced to take. All I know is I don't want this Government making anymore decisions that affect anyone's life; American or not. But I digress.)

Anyway... I went with my Wife to Sierra Vista, AZ over the weekend to visit her sister. Sierra Vista is only a few miles away from the border so we took a trip down to see it. We didn't cross the border because we were told that it's not a very safe place to tour around in so we just drove by the crossing and snapped a few pictures. It looked like I expected. I had seen the "Wall" on television and assumed that this was what was maintaining our Border Security.



This wall stretched out as far as my eye could see around this rather modest though imposing crossing station.



But apparently, I really can't see all that far. The next day, her Brother-in-Law took me up into the mountains to snap a few pictures. The mountain was just South of Sierra Vista and a little to the west of where the crossing was. I'd say it was no more than 10 or 15 miles away. This is a picture of our Border with Mexico a few miles away from the Crossing Station.



I looked and I looked but I could find no trace of any sort of fence or even a sign to let a person know they finally made it to the Promised Land. The only thing watching our border is this blimp-type thing that hovers over the town of Sierra Vista like an Orwellian Swastika. It's supposed to have cameras on it that watch the border but unless they have several thousand of these things, I'd say our border is pretty much a joke.



The only thing protecting us is a chance grab by the Border Patrol or the fear of getting bit by this guy.



He crawled into my engine compartment and took a ride up to the mountains with me. Luckily he's a Bull Snake or some such thing. Like our border, at first glance it just looks scary and then you find out the truth. It's hype is a million times worse than it's bite.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:52 PM
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1. Yeah, and Canada's border is just 3000 miles of grassy field... n t
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:54 PM
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2. That's not a trained border patrol snake, is it?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:54 PM
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3. Great post. Those of us who understand the dynamics of the Border
understand that this "debate" is smoke-and-mirrors, a red herring.

Nothing is going to solve the situation.

If we want the equivalent of the War on Drugs, wait and see what this Border debate brings.

I imagine your visit was quite an eye-opener.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:56 PM
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4. yeah, that's no way to protect a security state....
Oh wait....
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VirtualChicano Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:02 PM
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5. Stop buying Cocaine
and you'll get rid of the smugglers.

and for the murderers, isn't that how you "americans" (caugh, caugh) got this land in the first place?

and will you please clue me in on "foreign agents?"
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:03 PM
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7. Foreign Agents or spies, do pose a threat to our country.
Especially now that we are so vulnerable to outside influences. As nice as they may seem, there are other countries out there who would love to do us harm or at least spy on what we do.

As for the Cocaine, I don't buy any and I don't plan on it. Processed drugs are dangerous to a population and I do not support making it easy for it to flood into our country.

As for being a murderer, I believe Cortez and Pizzaro were of Spanish descent so I guess that makes you a murderer too. (At least we pretended to buy the land before we betrayed the indigenous people and then massacred them.)



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VirtualChicano Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 11:34 AM
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8. Read Me
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 11:38 AM by VirtualChicano
name one foreign agent or spy that has come from the mexico-u.s. border. the few who have enterd came from the canadian border.

my cocaine remark wasnt meant as a cheap shot. i didnt mean it literally as in you personally.

i just mean quit the denmand and the supply will go away, period.

the u.s. has to control its demand for drugs.

the u.s. demand for drugs has morally and ethically corrupted mexico. its easy to blame mexican corruption, but its all u.s. drug money that fuels it.

the spaniards raped there way all over mexico, but i am not one of them. i am MEXICA. in mexico, less than 10% of the people claim white european blood. most are mestizo and 10% are pure indigenous.

but the pool of european blood did not continue to replenish itself and , hence, has depleted to nil in the gene pool.

i can give you the exact numbers of the rapist that came to mexico vs. the indigenous population but id rather express the difference is that i do not celebrate the rapist spaniards or the slaughter of my ancestors.

i am not spaniard. and that IS an insult!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:12 PM
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6. A few miles up the road
and you would have seen where Cochise is buried.
You would have seen where the last stagecoach massacre took place.
You would have seen more history.

There is NEVER a time that I don't drive through that southern route and think about the Pony Express riders, stagecoaches, Cowboys and Indians, etc.
in awe and wonderment.
That is probably some of the last untouched historical land in the continental United States.

It is an eye-opener. I have noticed on my last few trips through the increased border security, and the last time I went through, border patrol had actually pulled up and surrounded a car on the highway from Tucson to Phoenix. I had never seen them that far up.
Great pics btw.

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