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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:17 AM
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I'd love to see a Gore/Kerry ticket . . .
and watch the neocons shit their britches . . .

but I doubt that Kerry would take the second spot . . . and, conversely, I doubt that Gore would play second banana to Kerry . . .

so someone (Jimmy Carter?) needs to sit them down and explain to them that the fate of the nation and the planet depends of their working as a team to take back our country, to stop the insanity, to start repairing the BushCo damage, and to lead us with vision, integrity, and inspiration . . .

check your egos at the door, guys . . . your country needs you! . . .
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:33 AM
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1. I heard that was supposed to be the 2000 team
but Gore decided to go with Leiberman because he was the first to denounce Clinton over Monica.
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:36 AM
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2. Gore/Kerry would be a dream team.
But I think Al would have to take the top spot.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:57 AM
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3. come on they were defeated.
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 02:58 AM by cyclezealot
welcome some of Gore's recent changes, but really; it's time for something fresh. and Kerry had such a cowardly campaign. you gotta be kidding. plus , why. He voted for Bush's war of lies. We all knew better. No excuses.please.I suggest Gore would now be a great UN ambassador in a Feingold Administration.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:46 AM
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7. You think the Bush junta didn't cheat their way to power and cheat to
stay there? What are you basing your faith in them on? Bushite vote counting?

Nope, Bush never got anything in his life honestly, and everybody knows it except the poor sods who are into the Rapture, and even some of them are wondering.

And, to my mind, it isn't so much that Gore and Kerry were cheated, as it was the American people who were cheated. And that pisses me off. I want democracy restored. I want order restored. I want our right to vote in transparent elections restored. I want justice to be done.

I think Gore/Kerry would be a brilliant ticket. I call it the Poetic Justice ticket. There is nothing Americans love more than justice. Add in "poetic," and they are yours!

I have big beefs with Gore on NAFTA, and with Kerry on the war. That's not the point. I am a close student of both elections. I don't just feel that they won. I know that they won--Gore, provably; Kerry, by overwhelming inference of the data, in highly non-transparent conditions, with the opposition having huge motivation and wherewithal to steal it. They were elected. The American people chose them. And they should rightfully run the country.

And from that restoration of law and order, and rightness, democracy will be reborn.

Gore won first. He also spent eight years as V-P, a heartbeat away from the presidency. He is also the better focused of the two, has grown into a fabulous speaker, and has passionate views on issues like torture and constitutional and ethical government. Gore has more experience at administration and foreign policy. Kerry is a very intelligent man with prosecutorial experience (very much needed to guide Congress and the government, after eight years of a criminal regime).

Gore/Kerry is also the only ticket that can beat the Bushite voting machines. I think it will win big, and I mean very big--my guestimate, by a 20% margin (although the election theft machines will reduce it to 10%).

If I had my druthers, I might pick, say, Feingold/Boxer--or Dean/Feingold--strong antiwar, populist candidates. But then it would just be a political fight. With Gore/Kerry, however, it's a RESTORATION; the righting of a terrible wrong; justice. Big difference.



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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:18 PM
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8. as to the election procedures, you are right
but still . Remember Gore's second debate. Same goes for Kerry. Kerry the college debater. I could not believe how poorly they did against the Chimp.. Electoral cheating or not. Had they used their talents, it should have been a route against Bush.
As it was, I was astounded when I agreed that Kerry and Gore lost some of their debates. And Kerry did not defend himself against the SwiftBoat people. Incredibly poor campaings.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:22 PM
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10. wwwwait. Kerry did poorly in a debate with *? Where the hell was I?
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:47 PM
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14. Kerry doing poorly in the debate.
We both know Bush is an idiot. The American people didn't or he would have been overwhealmingly defeated. That being so. Does not matter our opinions.( Well, Recall Gore in two debates just said like."I agree."! )
You listened to the idiot pundits, they said Bush won one debate against Gore. only one, as I recall. Kerry. Kerry won one, second a toss and third BUsh won. Yes, I know somehow Bush remembered his lines. Amazing. Pundits gotta be right. Kerry lost by more than a million votes. The chimp impressed somebody.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 06:00 PM
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16. Those "shows" are NOT debates
We have not had real debates since the LWV quit hosting them.. What we have now is a show.. "Respected news people" ask innocuous trip-up questions, and the contestants maneuver the "question' to fit their talking points..

What we need is a format where each candidate gets an UNINTERRUPTED half hour to lay out his plan for all the important issues.

and at the end of the hour, random people get to ask questions..

passes to attend the debates should be via a lottery system..with nothing more than a weapons check..

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:05 AM
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4. We are going to need 2 heavy duty statesmen to repair the damage
One has to focus on domestic issues (Kerry - invesigations/legislature) and one on international/global issues (Gore). Make Gore President for 4 years, then switch 'em or Gore for 8, then Kerry. In 16 years, we should be back to where Clinton/Gore left this country....
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:20 AM
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5. I'd go for this in a heartbeat.
And I think the American people have had a graphic economic and foreign war beating for not going with either Gore or Kerry, that many conservatives (of the old school) would find Gore and Kerry comforatble about now (or in 3 more years.)

The thing Gore has in his favor for the top spot is that he's served one heartbeat from the presidency for 8 years, and he's clean and free of any recent congressional record that could be cause petty upsets among either side's one-issue factions.

Kerry is also statesman like and vigorous. I think Gore would turn the swiftboater's guns back on them and defend his VP candidate.

It worked for Nixon, the comeback a term or two later.

It would so much more work for Al Gore and John Kerry.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:23 AM
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6. How about some celebrities?
I propose a Moyers/Clooney ticket. (Bill Moyers, George Clooney).

Don't shoot, I'm only half serious... :bounce: or not serious?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:21 PM
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9. please god no...
but at least it's a ticket without hillary- it's got that going for it.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:24 PM
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11. We can dream! That would be a slam dunk, even with Diebold running
full tilt! Imagine the country if only....
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:26 PM
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12. It could've been that in 2000
Florida may have genuinely gone to Bush, but New Hampshire may have gone to Gore.

Truth be told, my own guess is that Gore would have lost in 2004 and even if he did win in 2004, it's unlikely that Kerry would have been able to win in 2008; the voters get weary of one party after 12 years and tend to go for someone new; 16's pretty much the absolute upper limit, the exception being the Roosevelt-Truman years, but that was because FDR was president for 12 years and had been so dominating.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:34 PM
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13. Gore- Clinton would actually work for me
get them both on the ticket, and the monsters sort of cancel each other out.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 05:56 PM
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15. me to
with Edwards as campaign manager
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