People, including DUers, are going to go see that Flight 93 film and love

[Thtwudbeme]

it.

Wanna know why?

Because when it's all said and done, we have to believe that we really do have some heros left in this panty waist country that has allowed that little jackass to sit in the oval office for 6 flipping years while damn near ruining this country.

We have to believe that at least one big strong guy stood up and yelled "Let's Roll!" or "Let's get 'em!" or something to that effect, because we really can't face the fact that John Wayne and Ronald Reagan were just Hollywood myths and the truth of the matter is that even our cowboys now seem a little sensitive.

We can't let go of our "rugged" myth whether it's individuals, a marine, or the Marlboro Man staring down lung cancer with every ounce of testerone his body can produce---

So, we are going to see Flight 93 or 94 or whatever the number was of that plane full of unfortunate victims was...and we are going to go all warm 'n fuzzy thinking that they MIGHT have gotten that plane to land, COULD have gotten that plane to land.....and we are going to ignore that less than a dozen creeps led by a what appears to be a slightly crazy but well educated goat herder, took down 3 buildings, 4 planes, and a Superpower within 3 hours.

All without our "defense system" that we spent so much money on so much as lifting a finger or a whimper.

[fooj]

1. If you'll believe this...

.and we are going to ignore that less than a dozen creeps led by a what appears to be a slightly crazy but well educated goat herder, took down 3 buildings, 4 planes, and a Superpower within 3 hours.

You'll believe anything. Just my 2 cents. No offense intended.

[Thtwudbeme]

13. Oh, hell....I don't believe it

but, it's the official story.

a small mean gang of weirdos, and a kazillionaire goat herder who hates us for our freedoms.

Yep. The official story.

[Radio_Lady]

28. Correction: "UNITED 93" is the film opening on 4/28/06.

"Flight 93" was a made-for-TV program which aired in January on the A&E network.

They are both FICTION and aim to show WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED on 9/11.

You choice is to believe it or NOT to believe it.

Sorta like the Bible!!!

[0007]

2. Have absolutely no desire to see this propaganda.

I'll donate to Dufar first. That is more real.

[bigscott]

3. i wont see it

wanna know why?? I think the majority of the story most americans believe is bullshit. I think a movie glorifying any aspect of the SINGLE day that pointed out how corrupt, evil and incompetent our goverment is, should not have been made. Because I think the families of the victims have spent too much time showing up at photo ops with rudy and shrub and pataki and not enough time asking WHY this happened. I spent hours glued to the TV on 911, watching in horror as this country was hobbled by SOMEONE. I have never believed that a "slightly crazy goat herder" could do this without a HUGE contribution, whether intentional or through negligence, by our government.

[BrklynLiberal]

21. You put my EXACT thoughts into words better than I could have.

I had the same experiences and the same feelings..and that is why I cannot even look at the ads for this movie on TV.

[Selatius]

4. How can you make a cellphone call at 15,000 feet?

People try, but they fail to get reception. If you're hijacked at cruising altitude, you're not at 15,000 feet. You're at 30,000 feet instead, roughly five miles above the earth's surface.

[madaboutharry]

6. This is one part of the story I don't get.

I sometimes can't make a call from cell phone in my own neighborhood. How did all those calls get through? It may be nothing, but it is a fact that troubles me.

[JVS]

44. A lot of airplanes have phones built into the headreasts.

I've never used them because they are expensive

[flyarm]

5. AS A FliGHT CREW FOR ONE OF THE AIRLINES INVOLVED ..I SAY BULL!!

THIS SO CALLED MOVIE OF FLT 93 IS NOTHING BUT IN PROV AND BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA!

no one knows what occurred on that aircraft...

does the movie show the engine coming off that plane 8 miles prior to the so called crash site??

i bet not!!

so tell us all..did those passengers climb on the wing and knock the engine off???

of course not..

this is nothing but bullshit!

propaganda to still bullshit the american people to the complicatedness of this administration!

* needed this movie to quell the heat from all the groups proving that the official story is nothing but bullshit!

i will never go see this phony ass-ed movie!

fly

[Selatius]

8. The engine fell off 8 miles before impact? Is that what you're saying?

Are you implying it was shot down?

[flyarm]

70. yes thats what i am saying because that is the truth!

please...

i ask you all to go to this 9/11 web site and
copy off the pamphlets and pass them out about the b.s. of this movie!!

http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/flight93/index.ht...

Flyers are now ready!
Download, print and spread 9/11 truth
to moviegoers at the latest cover-up film
"United 93"!


Check out this flyer
<http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/flight93/index.ht... > and this
site <http://digitalstyledesigns.com/pages/downloads.htm > before going
to see the movie

1. 6-Panel pdf 'Flight 93' Flyer from 911Research
Folding flyer that highlights some of the omissions and
contradictions in the official story of the crash of Flight 93. An
HTML version of the flyer has hyperlinks to all the supporting
references. Suitable for printing on both sides of an 8-1/2 X 11
sheet. Color or b/w.
http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/flight93/index.ht...
<http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/flight93/index.ht... >


2. 1-Page 'Flight 93' Fact Sheet from Digital Style Designs

Single page high resolution pdf with the clear and simple facts for
a quick education on the street in b/w.
http://digitalstyledesigns.com/pages/downloads.htm

[Thtwudbeme]

14. Neither am I

but, some people are going to because they can't let go of a myth about America that might never have been true.

[Junkdrawer]

7. Hey...Scary Movie 4 is still playing....

If I let someone try to scare me with fiction, it might as well be entertaining...

[Skip Intro]

9. I predict it will flop at the box office

just a feeling

I won't see it

[FuzzyDicePHL]

11. I wonder

if it will flop... Seems like a lotta jingoistic yahoos are all into it (as always, no offense to the search/news/mail portal).

[Junkdrawer]

22. Perhaps they'll re-release it as "Scary Movie 5" or "Airplane 3"...

Someone get Leslie Nielson on the phone...

[ronnykmarshall]

25. No it won't.

It's getting great reviews and the promotion for this going to be huge.

Now, MI3 .... La Cruise's new film ..... THAT'S gonna tank. :woohoo: :applause:

[Thtwudbeme]

35. I think it's going to tank even with the publicity

quite frankly it looks like a made for TV movie--I don't know one person who is planning on seeing it.

Everytime a big hit comes out...at least this is been true for me my whole life--people talk about seeing it.

This one is just like...nahhhhhh

[Connie_Corleone]

42. It might flop at the theaters, but it will make up for it on DVD sales.

I think the people who want to see it will wait for the DVD.

[Junkdrawer]

54. Richard Scaife loves Frisbee Golf. And DVDs make great putters...

I'll bet he buys them by the thousands....;)

[Thtwudbeme]

57. Is he still alive?

I hate that son of a bitch worse than I have ever hated any RW politician.

[NYCGirl]

60. He's gonna hate it. The administration is shown as absent and incompetent.

[TahitiNut]

39. It won't flop at the "military box office."

It'll be distributed to absolutely every US military post in the world. Watch.

[Swamp Rat]

10. It appears the victims of Flight 93 are being used for propaganda

Too bad their families are not receiving the JUSTICE they deserve.

[LostinVA]

12. The families cooperated completely with Paul Greengrass

Who is the writer/director of the movie. They have given it their stamp of approval.

[Swamp Rat]

16. Do they really have a choice?

It is one, big work of fiction (except for the tragic deaths) still in the making.

[ronnykmarshall]

26. Yes they did have a choice.

They could have refused to have the names of their loved one used in the film.

[Thtwudbeme]

17. Sure they have; it makes those people on the plane look like fallen

Greek heroes probably.

If Michael had been on the plane, I would want people to think he yelled "Let's Roll!" as opposed to trying to hide in the loo with the beverage cart.

[TomPainesBones]

18. Of course they did.

The movie makes their family members out to be heroes.
Why would they object to that?

[TomPainesBones]

15. I saw the World Trade Center collapse

from the roof of my apartment building on the Lower East Side.

I saw enough that day.

I'm not going to pay money to be 'entertained' by a FICTIONALIZED account of what happened... putting me 'in the moment' like I'm on some fucking ride at Disney World.

[ronnykmarshall]

27. I agree w/ you.

While I wasn't in NYC, I've seen enough footage to last me a lifetime. Those images are forever in my mind.

I don't need a damn movie to relive that day.

[triguy46]

19. Does it show our hero, *....

frozen in fear and ineptitude in the kindergarten class? unable to react? That is before he ran like the dickens and hid out in air force 1, that time is the one I'm thinking of , that time when he looked like the total dips*** he is.

[titoresque]

23. I saw something entirely different

I saw a man trying not to smirk, trying to act as though he didn't know that later that same footage would be scrutinized. I saw dollar signs in his eyes. I didn't see fear or stupidity at all, what I saw was scripted.

[titoresque]

20. Not I

sorry, I don't believe any of it! And I certainly will not spend any of my hard earned money on government propaganda bullshit being pushed as truth. So there will be no warm and fuzzies for me....If I need that feeling I'll watch Fahrenheit 9/11 again or Loose Change and get the warm and fuzzies knowing that those are the REAL HEROS the ones standing up and trying like hell to get the REAL truth out!

[T Wolf]

24. Count me out of the rah-rah group.

This Riefenstahl-style propaganda film is just what the Shrub ordered to hype his War on Iraq. He is hoping it takes everypne's attention away from the daily casualties, torture prisons, and other unpleasantries of his invasion of Iraq.

But, knowing the gullibility of the American people, millions will accept what is shown on the screen as gospel truth. Those "rugged myths" you talk about are just the fantasies we NEED to purge from our minds if we are to ever advance beyond the "cowboy" mentality so prevalent in the government and the population.

It is just a movie, and probably not a good one at that. It is a work of fiction. Worse, it is fiction pretending to be fact. And it is one more nail in the coffin of honesty and truth that, in this country at least, is already buried five and a half feet deep.

Do not fall for the hype!

[Jara sang]

29. Your reality has been corrupted by Hollywood.

[NoPasaran]

30. The hostility being expressed toward this movie

The hostility being expressed toward this movie reminds me of the Freepers' reaction to Fahrenheit 9/11.

[NYCGirl]

31. Or remember when "The Last Temptation of Christ" was released?

All those rightwingers picketing even though none of them had ever seen the film?

[NoPasaran]

32. Or "Monty Python's Life of Brian" for that matter

[Marnieworld]

33. yah so?

They were pissed because it disagreed with their version of reality and we are pissed because it disagrees with ours. There's only onr reality though- all points of view aren't equal despite what TV pundits and producers say. Having anger is the only thing we have in common with freepers.

[NYCGirl]

34. Have you seen the film? (It's not being marketed as a documentary, BTW.)

[Pastiche423]

36. I have not seen the film, nor will I

After seeing the tv ads that say...

"the heroic efforts of the passengers aboard, trying desperately to save the Capitol/WH..."

WTF? What utter crap. No one on this earth knows what happened inside that plane on 9/11.

If you want to keep on being irgnorant, go right ahead. I don't believe in propaganda.

[NYCGirl]

38. Knowing Paul Greengrass' other work, I believe in ART, not propaganda.

The man is an artist.

[Thtwudbeme]

41. So is Thomas Kinkade

All artists can have flops; not all art is good.

[Pastiche423]

43. Art ain't the truth

All this film does is perpetuate the Official Propaganda Story.

[NYCGirl]

45. As I said, it's not being marketed as a documentary. You sound like the

fundies about the "DaVinci Code".

[Thtwudbeme]

49. not really. I am sure that you like this director, and I hope you enjoy

the movie as much as you want to.

That said, this is NOT like the DaVinci Code. Whether or not Jesus was married or was a hot dog maker in Timbuktu doesn't really have anything to do with the fact that this administration is using propaganda to keep people frightened.

However, you clearly cannot see that this is propaganda for some reason; as much as you want to put us down for thinking this movie is ill-timed and sure to put the "American Hero" in a great light--we could just as easily slam you for being a gullible fan of what's his name. Paul something. Sorry, I can never remember directors...I am not trying to be funny; I seriously can't remember.

[Pastiche423]

51. What does it matter rather it is a documentary or not?

It's still propaganda of the Official Story.

THERE HAS BEEN NO TRUE INVESTIGATION ON 9/11! NONE!

Btw, I am agnostic. I know zilch about the "DaVinci Code".

[Thtwudbeme]

53. Oh the Davinci code is a good read

whether you are agnostic or not. Good light summer mystery-plus big Catholic stuff thrown in--just enough to make people feel educated when they read it. Try it! ;)

[MamaBear]

47. Not exactly.

I'm not going to picket, or email, or write nasty letters to people who do choose to see this.

I will, however, stay home, or go to a different film.

I work in downtown NYC; the plane hit the South Tower about the time I got to the street from the subway station. I made a promise to myself that day: that I wouldn't believe anything until I heard the truth.

I'm still waiting, and I can be really patient.

This disaster is a part of my everyday life, and I would prefer to see it treated with respect. F9/11 was fine; hard to watch, but fine. I agree with the poster who didn't like seeing the day Disney-fied.

Have fun, tho, if you go. It's designed to make you feel good.

[NYCGirl]

48. Actually, everything I've read about it says you will not feel good...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rachel-sklar/united-93-with-muscles-t_b_19890.html

BTW, for the record, I live in lower Manhattan.

[Thtwudbeme]

50. I am sorry that you live in NYC and have internalized this as your own

trauma.

However, for the record, I was born in Farmville VA in 1964, and I don't feel a gut crunch when faced with the history of desegregation of the school system.

And I doubt anyone was planning on going warm 'n fuzzy after watching doomed people.

[MamaBear]

58. How hard did the earth shake?

How hard did the earth shake when that plane hit? Do you know? Is that part of your experience?

What did the smoke smell like? For how long? Was that part of your experience?

What was printed on the paper that was flying out of the high windows? What did it look like as it fluttered to the ground?

What was the expression on the faces of the people running away from the event? Were their eyes black with terror?

What does it feel like when a tall building under which you are standing shakes?

What goes through your mind when a cloud of smoke that will hide the sun on a spotless day comes your way, then engulfs you? What's it like when the f-16 finally arrives, but you can't see what the hell it is, and you're wondering if there are any more of those planes about?

If you were not present and on the ground that day, I would appreciate it if you would not dismiss the experience of another person. For those of us who were actually physically present, it IS our own personal drama.

But do go ahead and feel superior if that makes your day.

[Thtwudbeme]

61. Oh for God's sake

I was a flipping EMS worker for 10 years. Spare the heck outta me, OK?

Yes, it was a scary day; yes, it was sad. Yes it was traumatic as hell. That doesn't make this movie any less stupid: stay on topic.

[MamaBear]

64. By all means, enjoy the show.

[Thtwudbeme]

66. hey, you too now, ya hear?

?

[flyarm]

65. bullshit! my co-workers died on 2 of those planes..people from

my hometown of middletown nj died from those planes...

so you put a bunch of actors on a simulator plane and you tell them to do improv of that day..thats all you are fucking getting is a bunch of actors doing inprov!!
do those actors talk going down about the engine being shot off that plane??

do they???????????????

this is propaganda bullshit!

more of the same bullshit we have been getting for almost 5 years now...

what would be more appropriate is having the people who sat in american airlines opps in dallas answer Amy Sweeneys husbands questions about what really happened to delays action by the faa and norad in responding that horrible day...
and someone answering why the engine of flt 93 was found between 6-8 miles prior to that crash site..and someone answering how for the first time in history nothing was found of two jumbo jets after a crash..aircraft do not vaporize people!...or where the tapes are from a hotel and gas station the fbi seized..and no one has seen from near the pentagon

please people do not buy into this bullshit and propaganda!

from a just retired flight attendant NY based for one of the airlines involved!

fly

[NoPasaran]

71. Better have one of these

Before your head explodes!

[havocmom]

37. My reply to a question about Flight 93 & heroes from the other day

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=125&topic_id=84417#84458

We do need to hope for heroes.

[JVS]

46. Uffda, what a story

[havocmom]

67. Makes us stop and ponder how many people we touch in our lives

beyond just family and friends. We ARE all connected.

Send that young man some strength if you're of a mind. He, just like family of passengers, suffered a big loss. So many people did, and not just those affected directly.

Keep them all in your thoughts when you commune with whatever larger force you draw strength from

It has been said that a hero is an ordinary person who responds well in extraordinary circumstances. We all have that potential. They person next to you might be a hero one day. Keeping that in mind makes it easier to see the value in helping our fellow humans whenever we can. We never know, we might be making it possible for a hero to come through when needed.

Heroes and angels... I believe.

[Kingshakabobo]

40. I won't see it. I know the ending and it makes me sick to think about ....

how close the pilots came to securing the cockpit. Of course, I can't watch "Titanic" because I keep hoping they'll turn the ship fast enough.

[maveric]

52. I see it as another "Passion of the Christ".

Showing death and suffering as a propaganda tool.

[rman]

55. Why do people insist on calling it by the incorrect title?

"United 93" vs "Flight 93"


United 93 (Universal Pictures)
www.apple.com/trailers/universal/united93/
www.flight93.net (note the confusing URL)
www.united93movie.com

Many people are incorrectly refering to this one as "Flight 93".

--

Here's the real "Flight 93":

Flight 93 (A&E)
www.aetv.com/flight_93/f93_preview.jsp
www.loosechange911.com/flight93.mov

[Thtwudbeme]

56. I dunno. Probably because I don't really pay attention to the propanda

drivel so common in the media now.

That said, I AM studying religion, and I have a strong interest in myths and heroes.

[nadinbrzezinski]

59. I am not into propaganda filsm

whether made by Hollywood, Pravda or the 1936 rally.

Is that clear enough?

[realFedUp]

62. I already know the ending....

unfortunately.

[SmokingJacket]

63. I KNOW there are lots of heroes in this country.

Tons of them. Go down to your local nursing home and look how gently those minimum-wage workers bathe the 103-yr-old woman screaming obscenities at them.

Our definitions of "hero" are a little twisted, IMHO.

I don't know what happened in that airplane, but I have no desire to be emotionally manipulated for two hours. That day was a fucking tragedy.

[havocmom]

68. A-men!

There are heroes all around us

Heroes and angels

[flyarm]

69. i ask you all to go to this 9/11 web site and

copy off the pamphlets and pass them out about the b.s. of this movie!!

http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/flight93/index.html

Flyers are now ready!
Download, print and spread 9/11 truth
to moviegoers at the latest cover-up film
"United 93"!


Check out this flyer
<http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/flight93/index.html> and this
site <http://digitalstyledesigns.com/pages/downloads.htm> before going
to see the movie

1. 6-Panel pdf 'Flight 93' Flyer from 911Research
Folding flyer that highlights some of the omissions and
contradictions in the official story of the crash of Flight 93. An
HTML version of the flyer has hyperlinks to all the supporting
references. Suitable for printing on both sides of an 8-1/2 X 11
sheet. Color or b/w.
http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/flight93/index.html
<http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/flight93/index.html>


2. 1-Page 'Flight 93' Fact Sheet from Digital Style Designs

Single page high resolution pdf with the clear and simple facts for
a quick education on the street in b/w.
http://digitalstyledesigns.com/pages/downloads.htm