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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:29 AM
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How Are the Immigrant Groups Doing It?
Seems that within days, without any type of visible escalation, millions of immigrants take to the streets in a massive display. And this May 1st is going to be HUGE (I hope everybody participates).

No organizations behind this to speak of. No massive fundraising drives. No petitions. No internet.

HOW did they get so organized/mobilized/energized? It's awesome, but man, here we are on the DU and it's like pulling teeth to get a movement like that going - and saving the world from the Neocons is about as worthy of a cause as anything.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:30 AM
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1. Spanish language radio
...and fear.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:30 AM
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2. Craigslist, Myspace, local Spanish disc jockeys
Pure grassroots.:thumbsup:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:31 AM
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3. We have to get people motivated on one issue
Unfortunately, there are so many issues. One issue that affects all would have thousands in the streets in no time.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:33 AM
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4. The Catholic Church, La Raza, Spanish language radio
Tons of nonprofit immigration reform groups. Donations from corporations.

Of course, all of these groups will simply disappear when 20 million more workers cross the borders to compete with these marchers for even lower wages.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:41 AM
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5. Face it, W has turned us into a 3rd world country
Where we'll be competing against illegals for a $9.00 an hour job.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 01:09 AM
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7. True enough
I guess the only silver lining is the rising tide of leftist populism in Central and Latin America. We can only hope it will get here soon.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:58 AM
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6. Perhaps progressives should unite behind one *egregious*
scandal and have nationwide protests based just on that.

Now *that* would be a feat--a single-issue protest by progressives.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:52 AM
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17. Ask 4 progressives a question, and you get 10 different opinions. nt
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Robbie Michaels Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 01:12 AM
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8. Think Back to 1987
Remember when Metallica sold a million copies of Master of Puppets without radio or MTV airplay? Word of mouth.

It also helps that many people are pissed off. :grr:
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 01:13 AM
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9. Mentioned previously, radio ...

A lot of it is being organized on Spanish-language radio stations, and it seems invisible to English speakers who don't understand Spanish for obvious reasons.

As for being energized, it's because they give a shit and have not become so wrapped up in comfortable lives that they fear upsetting the status quo.
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low_phreaq Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 01:58 AM
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10. A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition
I read somewhere that the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition is helping them organize.
It does appear to be the main focus of their website at the moment:
http://www.internationalanswer.org/

I think they may have raised a few hackles around here a while back, not sure what the current thinking is on them.
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lostexpectation Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:02 AM
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11. credit grabbers
coattailers what more do you want to say about them claiming to have something to with this surge...
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:06 AM
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12. Not very likely, since these protests focused on one issue
ANSWER is notorious for including all kinds of relatively 'fringe' issues such as the Israel-Palestine conflict.
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low_phreaq Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:17 AM
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14. Well, I did find this article
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3806040.html
The boycott idea emerged in early April from activists of Latino Movement USA, and the anti-war ANSWER Coalition.

Immigration leaders at Thursday's briefing and elsewhere said those organizations were no longer part of the national immigration reform movement.

ANSWER spokesman Carlos Alvarez said no group or coalition owns the issue of immigration reform.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:33 AM
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15. Oh please, ANSWER has absolutely nothing to do with this.
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 02:36 AM by mohinoaklawnillinois
Here in Chicago the Spanish radio stations have played the major role along with word of mouth.

I can guarantee that 95% of the protestors here in Chicago on March 10th and the people that will march on Monday don't even have a clue who or what ANSWER represents.

They're a non-entity...

:mad: :mad:

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low_phreaq Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 10:41 AM
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27. Agreed
I just think either that article or a similar one was how I got the impression that ANSWER was involved. Sorry I wasn't more clear.
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low_phreaq Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:09 AM
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13. Just hope it's not a new Cointelpro
Hopefully Bushco is not secretly helping to encourage the boycott to create a backlash, or worse, a justification for martial law? :tinfoilhat:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:55 AM
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19. there will be arrests on Monday.
if there's violence, it'll come from the Police end of the barricades.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:53 PM
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31. Who Owns Spanish Radio & TV? I Personally Think This Might Be
a set up.
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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:39 AM
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16. The Latinos just have an amazing work ethic.
I hate to say it, but they are accomplishing things that DU could only dream of. Not to say that we don't work hard for our causes, but they're organizing a full-out nationwide boycott.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:53 AM
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18. On May 1st, I'm a Latino. n/t
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:58 AM
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20. I also think it's the one issue that the GOP can't get their talking point
s together on. So they can't stink up the media by framing the issue in a certain hateful way.

Sad to say, but those talking points effectively keep people in their living rooms - when presented with a "viable" difference of opinion that the mighty wurlitzer amplifies tenfold.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:01 AM
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21. Church
it is as simple as that. We have a HUGE Hispanic Mass at my Catholic Church every Sunday. They come from all over NC and it is more than mass, they socialize for several hours as well.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:44 AM
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23. That's how the civil rights movement mobilized, as well. n/t
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:04 AM
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22. I thought I read that unions are helping to organize this too.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:12 AM
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24. I think they have corporate America behind them on this one
nt
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:22 AM
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25. Threatening to criminalize poeples parents motivates them bigtime
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:50 AM
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26. It takes courage and hope
courage with out hate
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:45 PM
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28. Kick & Recommended....this is such an important, telling and useful post..
This is exactly we need to be asking ourselves right about now.

PB
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:51 PM
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29. Their communities aren't as fractured as our society is as a whole.
Extended families living closer together perhaps. :shrug:
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:52 PM
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30. Older cultures and poorer people are better organizers
Than white, individualist America.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:03 PM
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32. Richer, whiter people are better "deciders."
sorry. couldn't resist.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 02:37 PM
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33. : P
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