It seems only yesterday Republicans and Faux News were telling us

[keta11]

ad nauseum how omnipotent and omniscient the Great Leader was about everything under the sun, including, what they should eat for lunch! Why do they suddenly think he is wrong on his immigration policy?

[valerief]

1. Time for them to build up the next Commander in Thief. n/t

[itzamirakul]

2. I think the powers that be are beginning to fear a "takeover" of the

country by (gasp!) BROWN people!

In actuality, I DO believe that a little part of the discomfort by some RW Conservative Media IS based on some inner racial insecurity. At this moment, I am listening to the Sat. AM C-Span Washington Journal, and many callers seem to be expressing this kind of fear. And the funny thing is, the dissident American callers seem to be both White and African American.

[keta11]

3. Just a little part of the discomfort...?

I would think racism is huge part of it.

Personally, I dont know how practicable its gonna be to find and deport 12 million illegal immigrants. I would think the best solution is to grant amnesty and think about how to control immigration going forward. And a significant part of undocumented immigrants are visa over stays who flew in as tourists and students from all over the world, and are not walk-ins from Mex.

[rodeodance]

4. i heard that women screaming---ILEGALS on and on!

[itzamirakul]

6. I think that the hardest thing for mainstream Americans to have to

swallow is that this kind of "illegal alien problem" IS GOING TO HAPPEN every-so-often number of years.

I really do not believe that there is an answer to this kind of situation unless America becomes one of those fascist-type countries. (sarcasm here in relation to fascism).

Corporations and businesses do re-populate America as fresh, unsophisticated, willing wage-slaves are needed.

[treestar]

14. This is true - the US is traditionally open to immigrants and as a

free country, it does not have the power to track down every person. My Irish ancestors were the low wage slaves of their day. There was some prejudice against them, too. It is amazing how anti-immigrant rhetoric has changed so little since the 19th century.

[0007]

9. Go after the employers that employ these illegal immigrants

with large fines and jail time and the immigrants will leave on their own. This is not fair for the immigrants that are trying to enter this country legally and have waited a long time.

[treestar]

11. Learn more about the immigration laws is all I can tell you

The average Mexican could not possibly understand them. Neither could the average AMerican. Read Title 8 of the U.S. Code and then tell me how to follow those laws.

We need a real re-vamp of who it is that can be legal.

Most people would be legal if they could. They can't because they don't fit into a rigid category to begin with, or missed some clerical, arbitrary deadline, or the immigration service itself taking so long to decide a simple question. Add to that the arbitrary powers of state department officials in foreign countries and the arbitrary powers of those at the borders and you have a recipe for contempt of the law. The government doesn't follow it. Why do we expect others to?

We created our own mess here, through our laws, and we look idiotically irresponsible and immature blaming the aliens for "not coming legally."

[treestar]

13. If they were truly so concerned about security as they claim they

are, they would just register everybody who wants to come in. Then let the rest sort itself out later. What's "stealing" a job some AMerican feels entitled to (though at higher wages) to someone who "wants to kill us all?" Just sayin' it proves that the threat of Arab terrorists is not nearly what they make it out to be. They're willing to have all those individuals be undocumented, if deportable.

You're right, a free country couldn't keep up with this and wouldn't be so worried about it. The average Mexican is no threat to these people, except to their racial sensibilities.

[antonialee839]

5. Don't forget Tweety and his "Sunny Nobility" quote.

:rofl:

[itzamirakul]

7. What was the quote? Thanks... nt

[radfringe]

8. no clear liberal v conservative on this issue

surprisingly - there is no clear liberal v conservative on this issue

there are conservatives in favor of bush*'s program and just as many against it

there are liberals in favor of of bush*'s program and just as many against it

the reasons for supporting and opposing are all over the political and social spectrum

this is not a red versus blue issue - it's purple

[keta11]

15. I understand and kinda agree with the Dumbya

about this. The cost of finding and deporting 12 million is not worth the hassle.

[Toots]

10. Damn Microsoft..I pushed the yes button a half dozen times and nothing

:shrug: No wonder their stock is dropping...

[jerry611]

12. Immigration is not a partisan issue

The GOP is split on immigration as well as the Democrats.