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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:39 AM
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My pro minute man sister sent me this email :Mad:

This is the from my Sister Shareen in Arizona not my Sister Selene Il. Mods I hope this okay I deleted the contact info and condensed it down to four paragraphs.


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
March 13, 2006


Getting Control of Our Borders
By U.S. Senator Jon Kyl

I recently held a hearing in my Terrorism and Homeland Security Subcommittee intended to reacquaint the public with the dire consequences of the federal government’s failure to control the southern border of the United States. Our porous border with Mexico has permitted a historically unprecedented number of foreign nationals from over 120 countries to enter the United States illegally. While recognizing that many come here to seek better wages and a better standard of living, we cannot ignore the fact that at least ten percent of the aliens apprehended along the border are criminals and violence is rapidly escalating—last year alone, criminal assaults were up 108% according to U.S. Attorney, Paul Charlton. Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever testified his officers have been the focus of increasing violence and targeted attacks.

In the last five months alone, the Border Patrol has arrested 42,722 aliens with criminal records attempting to cross the border. Among them were 6,770 felons; 148 persons wanted in connection with a homicide; 42 associated with a kidnapping; 164 associated with a sexual assault; 298 associated with a robbery, 1,957 wanted for assault, and 4,161 connected with drug crimes. According to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, 139,000 of the 1.1 million people apprehended on the border in 2005 were criminal aliens seeking to illegally reenter the United States. A temporary worker program would reduce some of the pressure along the southern border because it could provide a legal avenue to work in the U.S, eliminating the need for immigrants to pay violent smugglers to get them across. But you can be sure that the hundreds of thousands of criminal aliens who will be barred from participating in any temporary worker plan will continue trying to reenter the United States, as will members of the hyper-violent drug cartels located just across the border. We must have the resources in place to defeat them.

I have frequently heard the argument that the United States cannot stop the flow of illegal immigrants and contraband across the border. According to the experts, that just isn’t true. First, while we have increased the number of Border Patrol Agents, there are still not enough of them. In 2005, the Border Patrol had 11,268 Agents patrolling 9,071 miles of U.S. border. That does not compare favorably with the city of New York, which employs 39,110 police officers to patrol its five boroughs. Until we have an adequate force of Border Patrol agents to protect our borders, and have equipped them with the technology and infrastructure they need to accomplish the mission, one cannot argue that it is impossible to protect the border. Second, the United States has been slow to make a concerted effort to place strategic fencing and vehicle barriers along the border to prevent narco-traffickers, human smugglers, and illegal aliens from simply crossing the border at will. Much of our border with Mexico is delineated by a rusted strand of barbed wire that has been beaten into the dirt by thousands of illegal crossers.

I am pleased that my Senate colleagues approved my amendment to modernize the fencing on the Arizona border with Mexico. Built properly, fences work: The fence in the San Diego Sector has dramatically reduced illegal immigration and drug trafficking across that sector. My amendment authorizes replacement of existing “landing mat” fences with “see through fencing” and expands the strategic use of that fencing as well as vehicle barriers. The experts agree that a combination of stronger border security infrastructure, improving interior enforcement (including in the workplace), implementing an effective temporary worker program and comprehensive reform to immigration policies can solve our illegal immigration and border violence problems. I share in this belief and will continue working to reach these solutions.



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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:48 AM
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1. Ask your sister if she ever read the inscription on the Statue of Liberty?
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

And then ask her why she hates America?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:50 AM
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2. Yeah, but ben, that statue came from furriners. In France.
:eyes: This whole thing sickens me. Every single one of us who isn't Native American needs to go 'home'.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:54 AM
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5. I bet the minute men want to paint the statue of liberty white.
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 11:55 AM by DanCa
I agree with you midlodemocrat what more can Dubya possibly divide us on?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:58 AM
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7. Didn't you get the memo, DanCa?
He is a UNITER, not a divider. Right after he is the decider.

He is beyond despicable.

I have to tell you something funny. The other day in the grocery store parking lot, I was parked next to a woman who had a 'W' sticker on her car. I shook my head and said "I'm sorry, but it looks as though someone has vandalized your car. They put a 'W' sticker on it".

She kind of reeled and said " I did that".

Me: "you did? on purpose?" Then I walked away shaking my head. Had on a DU shirt. It was sweet.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:53 AM
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3. Ben Thanks
I am going to be honest here. I don't know what to do about immigration but the minute men are definetly not the way to go. The whole organization makes my skin crawl. Funny I was thinking that I am the only one in my family who was paying attention in church when our parents made us go.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:54 AM
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4. Fortress Amerika
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 11:55 AM by EstimatedProphet
If they really want to stop the problems, they would act to bring Mexico into the 21st century. People are leaving there because it sucks, not because they are trying to destroy the US. And the biggest part of why it sucks is because we have been keeping it a banana republic! But, our John Birch Nazi Americans want Mexico to stay poor so that they can keep living off the artificial standard of living we have in this country, and at the same time want them uppity brown folks to mind their place and not try to hang around the decent white folks.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:57 AM
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6. Funny thing is they want to liberate Iraq but not Mexico.
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 11:58 AM by DanCa
How can you pick and choose which countries to "spread freedom to". Hell the Mexicans are asking for our help the Iraqis didn't. Of course you got to buy into Dubya's lie we went to Iraq to free the Iraqi people in order to make this point valid.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:58 AM
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8. That's because Mexico isn't part of the great PNAC plan.
The plan which will have all of us either dead or suffering.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:03 PM
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9. I really doubt they truly want to liberate Iraq
Because if they truly cared about the people in Iraq they wouldn't call them towelheads and terrorists. I think they are just saying they care about the Iraqis because they really REALLY wanted an excuse to go in and make up for not killing Saddam Hussein in Desert Storm.

If there's one thing freepers really don't care about, it's freedom and a better life for brown people.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:06 PM
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11. I love that eye of sauron pic
And I agree with you 100 percent. I also wrote my sister and said she can't blame immigrants for her health care cost. If she would have voted for Senator Kerry we all would have health care by now.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:16 PM
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14. Thank you!
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 02:10 PM
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17. Did you just advocate the invasion of Mexico?
Edited on Sun Apr-30-06 02:14 PM by PaganPreacher
Dan, you're brilliant!

Mexico has oil, Dos Equus, and great beaches.

Let's go!

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

The Pagan Preacher
I don't turn the other cheek.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:04 PM
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10. Those people just use this issue as an excuse for racism
They are more concerned about too many Mexicans coming in, because they are nothing because they (the minutemen) are nothing but white supremacist
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:08 PM
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12. Minute Men hide their racism behind the American flag
The KKK hide their racism behind white sheets.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:08 PM
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13. what a load of b.s.

If you look at the numbers, misdemeanors and previous bookings for crossing illegally are used as inflators. Of course Kyl isn't using the American citizen baseline for criminality- the national baseline is that around 6% of citizens, and Arizonans have large enough numbers to converge on that, are convicted felons. (Red States run higher than Blue ones, on average, too.) 40-something thousand Arizonans are barred from voting in the state for the commission of multiple felonies.

Then there's the guilt by association thang- many or most of these people will be witnesses the police or other parties are looking for, rather than perps outright. Then there's the policing comparison to NYC- the city with the most cops per capita (probably overpoliced, in fact)- as a standard. Where's the comparison to Tucson, Phoenix, Vegas, El Paso, L.A. rates of cops per capita, where Latino illegals would cause so much violent crime if all the allegations were true? Lies, damn lies, and misleading statistics.

The rest of that is just other misleading crap, of course.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 01:14 PM
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15. Kyle doesn't know anymore about what's happening in Arizona
than he does about Iraq. All anyone has to know about Kyle is to look at his voting record. Kyle never even ventured down to the Arizona border until illegal immigration and the border issues became a big media issue and when he needed Cheney to come to Tucson to capture campaign monies for him.

Kyle is like many of the DC ilk. They use their constituents to keep them in office long enough for them to gather enough power and strength to build an even more lucrative career.

Kyle is as useful to the citizens of Arizona and the US as George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld are.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 12:56 AM
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16. Update yet another email
I sent her a copy of the Statue of Liberty quote in Ben Burch's post and she wrote too me that am a trader (yes thats how it's spelled) and that I better learn to speak spanish.
I wrote back to her this.

Dear Shareen:

How do you feel about the mexicans and hispanics in our family? Oh and here is a list of a couple of people that wont born in this country:

1: Grandma and Grandpa they came from Germany
2: Jesus of Nazerath wasn't Born in the USA despite what the gop wants you to think

PS Dont forget to wash your white sheet for Monday -Danny

If you guys can think of anything else that I can tell her let me know. .
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