Great satire or Cheap shot?

[Brothaman2k]

I'm sure I'll be crucified, but I have to wonder... Though it was funny as crap, was Colbert's speech in bad taste or damaging for the Dems?

I know, I know, I love watching Bush bet bashed too, but I'm thinking that kind of thing could have done more harm than good. Think about it...Bush is already being hammered in the polls, now he was basicly forced to sit there and put on a happy face as he got ABSOLUTELY HAMMERED by Colbert. I mean he's getting torn apart and he has not opportunity to respond.

I'm thinking if this makes it into the press it'll be a question of whether it was bad form/a cheapshot. That type of thing could get Bush sympathy and bring those polls back up cuz people feel sorry for him being attacked in that way.

No doubt he deserved it, but I'm not real sure that was very helpful to the Bush opposition (ie, us).

[eleny]

1. I hope the administration has a cow over it

And that's all I care about.

[Duer 157099]

2. Was Colbert telling the truth?

or was he making stuff up?

Let that by your guide... let's get back to where the TRUTH sometimes hurts

[havocmom]

16. BINGO!

The malAdministration and MSM have not told the truth in years. The powerful have not given any consideration to the people. Tonight, Colbert shoved our rage up their asses.

Not a cheap shot, at all. It was an act of great patriotism.

[Duer 157099]

25. I bingo you back!

When Colbert first started his show a few months ago, I was skeptical. I had loved him on TDS, and maybe resented him leaving, and I loathed his faux conservative thing, I was just too pained by everything to laugh at this approach.

But man, if all of that enabled him to get up to the podium tonight and shine bright as a PATRIOT, then damn, I'm proud of him!

[titoresque]

26. YES! Great patriotism!!

:patriot:
Thank you Stephen Colbert!

[immoderate]

30. Yeah, a little perspective please.

Did Colbert send 160,000 troops into battle without body armor, siphon off a trillion government dollars for his friends, subvert the US intelligence services and fill it with political hacks? I could go on...:shrug:

--IMM

[NightOwwl]

3. Who knows and who cares.

Tonight was priceless. Stephen Colbert is THE MAN!

[Poll_Blind]

4. Look, Bush has been shitting on me, you, this whole nation for the...

...last 6 years. The effects of what he has done will shit on our children and our children's children. If he got up on stage and took a dump into his hand then threw it at Bush he would still be doing Bush a goddamned favor.

PB

[AlCzervik]

5. no it's not bad for the dems, it's bad for the Bush.

[Gabi Hayes]

6. yeaaaahhhhhh, rrrrriiiiiight

surely you're not serious

Stephen, is that you?

good one!

how'd you get to a computer so fast?

[indie_voter]

7. Colbert spoke truth to power

In the end that is all that matters.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

8. No. Bush's mindless supporters will support him no matter what. Any

act of showing these people that "hey we're onto you and you are NOT going to get a free pass, even at your black tie dinner", demonstrating that America is getting its courage back, is a GOOD thing.

[Evergreen Emerald]

49. the last 1/3 is backwash anyway.

Damn he was funny.

[me b zola]

129. backwash indeed!

;)

[teach1st]

9. War based on lies...

...is in bad taste. Torture and domestic spying is in bad taste. Incompetence is in bad taste. Calling him on it to his face - tasty!

[SnoopDog]

10. Isn't Colbert Republican?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Rockholm]

148. No..A Democrat.

[fooj]

11. I see what you are saying. Here's the problem...

THEIR PROBLEM...He spoke the TRUTH! If they are going to crucify him for that then they are certainly in the wrong business, eh?

Peace.

[Ksec]

12. Ill bet the wingers will be outraged

All the RWinger talk will be about how theyre sick of Liberal media and what a cheap shot this was.

Hey, they invited a guy who makes his living with satire. What do they expect?

[valerief]

13. Who cares about Bush and his poll numbers? Not the repubs.

They'll start focusing on their next prez candies.

[NanceGreggs]

14. I understand your point, but ...

... people who are out of work, have no health coverage, have lost their savings and their homes, and can't afford to put gas in the car to drive to a possible job interview ARE NOT GOING TO GO BACK TO SUPPORTING BUSH BECAUSE HE GOT A WELL-DESERVED ASS-KICKING.

[elfin]

15. Polls at most 2 points - for a day or so

It was TRUTH (as opposed to truthiness). But the public will NOT see it - they will just see the Bush favorable clips and the Stephen negative clips. Cspan viewers will have to admit what really happened.

[zeemike]

17. Those shots were not cheep

They were priceless

[w8liftinglady]

33. ..well...maybe the Karl *hearts* Stephen..hehehehe

[Jim Sagle]

68. And we may all have to pay.

:scared:

[Gabi Hayes]

78. hey! you! are you a traitor, or what?

did you see it?

check PMs

[Jim Sagle]

84. Yes. Historic!

[Libby2]

18. Who gives a shit what the press says?

I'm beyond caring.

[realisticphish]

19. So what WOULDN'T be a cheap shot?

In this political culture, you can't sit there and say "I say, I quite disagree with you, old chap"
Colbert was honest, funny, he got the point across, and he did it all while having massive cajones as to his audience. Pretty much what I look for in a political speech :shrug:

[brucefan]

20. Oh,it helps this opposer.

I haven't smiled much in the last five years,now I can't wipe this damn thing off my face.

[aquart]

21. What nonsense.

Let's all be sure to cower in a corner and never say anything bad about the war criminal in chief.

Why? Because all the Americans who already hate him might be driven to like him.

How disgustingly gutless.

[Brothaman2k]

32. 99% of the time...

These speeches hammer politcians, as in Dems and Reps, together. To me it came off like he came specificly to get Bush. He was the ONE and ONLY target. I think that could backfire. There's nothing gutless about it. I didn't say he shouldn't said anything about Bush, I said to just come full force after him and NOBODY else could play as cheap. It's politic bro, you have to ponder things like that.

[jane_pippin]

39. So what if he did? He's a comedian, not a representative

for any party. If he's representing anything it's the first amendment. Good for him.

[Brothaman2k]

44. Those who'll percieve this as an ambush

won't care he's not an official representative of a party. They'll associated what he said, or more my concern, how he did it with the LEFT as a whole. I can't be the only that thinks that could be problematic. I just cant...

[jane_pippin]

50. The man's at 32%, 36% approval. Pardon my language, but

I don't really give a flying fuck if that 33% and the punditocracy were offended by Colbert's performance. If you want to spend time worrying about it, go ahead. I just don't have the energy to care about that because, frankly, I'm sick of having to hem and haw and hedge because some people--the people in control of everything, by the way--might think ill of liberals or the left. Whoop de frickin' do. If it isn't Colbert, it will be something else "terrible and un-American" they'll throw at us anyway, so we might as well enjoy the laughs as they come and not worry so much about what a bunch of tight-assed privileged fuck-ups and a handful of adoring cultists might think when they hear the truth.

I understand your concern, but I just don't think it's worth wasting time wringing your hands over it.

[bling bling]

134. Right on.

Nicely put. I too am tired of Dems always worrying what people on the right will think. Their hearts are in the right place but it is the wrong frame of mind to have.

[Divernan]

56. Yes, around here, you are the ONLY one.

Now there are about what, 32 Percent of the Koolaid drinkers who will agree with you, but they don't post here.

[Crunchy Frog]

126. Why don't you use this until you're finished having the vapors?

[havocmom]

40. bush the one and only target?

ah, were you watching the same program? He crucified the MSM and took enough to Scalia that he probably will never be able to go out for Italian food for the rest of his life!

[AlCzervik]

41. he nailed the press and Bush, did you think he was there to kiss the ring?

When imus did he nailed Clinton, thats the way it works.

[Brothaman2k]

46. My point is

Dems didn't catch any flack, which make sthe speech "partisan" or at least that's how it'll be percieved.

[havocmom]

51. There isn't a DEM in the country with any power to do anything now

so it's pretty hard to beat up on them.

Gee, do ya miss the good ol days when everybody had Clinton to kick around?

Tough nougats, the GOP controls every part of government, so yeah, they get slapped around for the mess things are in. No way to pin this all on Bill anymore. :nopity:

[AlCzervik]

52. i can live with that.

[Evergreen Emerald]

54. whatever. People have been holding back for years because of

fear of reaction. It is time to shout the truth from the rooftops. If that pisses of the backwash--so be it.

[kestrel91316]

65. uh huh.............

SOOOOOOO concerned about how this will hurt Dems................

I'm not buying it. Sorry.

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[Mayberry Machiavelli]

87. "Wingman" couldn't make it, LOL...

[DS1]

90. Yeah, ever since Tom Cruise went totally nuts, their "Top Gun" nights

just weren't the same.

[RoyGBiv]

70. And this is a problem why?

Do you know anything about the history of the entertainer at these functions? Anything at all?

[mondo joe]

109. The country is partisan. 2/3 against Bush.

[Crunchy Frog]

128. This is an event where the president is SUPPOSED to be the target.

It wouldn't have even made any sense for him to have gone after the Dems.

We all appreciate your deep concern, but I think it's misplaced right now.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

43. Yeah it's really bad for the Republicans, how Rush Limbaugh only makes fun

of liberals and Democrats. It makes so many Americans see him so negatively that the guy barely has any ratings or followers at all!

I see what you're saying!

[Sydnie]

45. That's what Stephen does

He slams them in a brilliant tongue in cheek way. They had to know that when they invited him, didn't they? Or, were they stupid enough to think that a fake news show on Comedy Central was real? If they thought the later, then they have no one to blame but themselves.

Don't ask a leopard to come to your party and expect them to show up as a butterfly.

[kestrel91316]

61. I can think of another website where you might have better luck

selling this load of c--p.

[RoyGBiv]

63. LOL!!!

Oh, yer a funny one you are. You think this is clever? It's not.

Heelarious.

99% of the time, eh? Got data on that? Or, was that a statistic you just pulled out of your nether regions?

So anyway, I'm curious, just how many of these things have you watched? I assume not many, or you'd know that the President always gets skewered. The "problem" here is that the current President is a souless, humorless, worthless pile of garbage who got offended because he will not, cannot admit to any error of any kind on his part. He's a freakin' child. Hell even Ford took Chevy Chase's "falling down the AF1 stairs" thing in stride and laughed and shook his hand afterward. Pardon my profanity, but this fuckstick we have in the White House now takes himself too damn seriously, and if his idiot supporters do to, fuck 'em.

[goclark]

76. He gave our soldiers a cheap shot when he sent

them to be killed!

He LAUGHED at last year's Dinner, pretending that he was looking for the WMD under his desk! He LAUGHED right in our faces! That was a CHEAP SHOT!

He laughed at us when he took a Cheap Shot at the election results in 04. When he had his Drunk "Lil Gin daughter shaking her leg and calling for her little Barney.

(I will always believe that was some kind of signal they sent to let the ELECTION fraud wiz kids know about the CHEAP SHOT they gave to our country!)

I don't want to hear nothing about a Cheap Shot for this mass killer!

Harry Truman said, "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen."

So ~ LEAVE, RESIGN, BYE BYE if you can't stand the heat ~ "Mr. Resident" and take all your EVIL RepubliCON buddies out the door with you!

[EstimatedProphet]

113. Dude, did you see it?

[aquart]

135. Don't appreciate made up statistics, either.

The thing about taking a position is that the only way to know if somebody stands with you is to take it, and see who else stands up.

If you don't have the stomach to stand up with the man who already stood up, fine. Go hide.

The rest of us seem to be standing up with Colbert and shouting our support.

[Catrina]

140. Did you watch it? He went after the PRESS! He did not just go after Bush

Who cares about playing nice? Dems did that, and look what happened. This is a criminal cabal who don't understand 'nice', they despise it. They made the rules and they THOUGHT, because people were 'nice' that meant 'weak'. Wrong, and that's the advantage we have now. Their stupidity, to think that patriotic Americans will stand by and let a few, delusional, evil, inept, greedy, treasonous individuals wreck this country.

Anyone whose mind is changed so easily, because the truth was told and they 'feel sorry' for Bush, will change their minds back again just as easily. Why are you worried?

[Warren DeMontague]

141. The people who still support Bush

are too dumb to figure out Colbert's shtick.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

22. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!! Fuck That Criminal! Impeach His Monkey Ass!

Your fears couldn't be further from the truth. Shrubby got fuckin slaughtered by Colbert and it was hilarious! Everyone knows shrubby's a fucking utter failure. Ain't no one givin that loser fuck any sympathy. Colbert rocked!

[Berserker]

31. Have a heart

the Colbert thread was pulled at freeperville.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

75. Heh heh!

[Maven]

104. OOH OOH

What were they saying? :bounce:

[high density]

23. Haven't you learned that everything is damaging for the Dems?

At least what's what CNN wants us to believe.

[onehandle]

24. This event will have little to do with any voter's thoughts.

Whatever.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

27. Since when has telling the truth been considered a cheap shot? Is it

since the fascist in chief has held office? Bush is a merchant of death and destruction and if people can't accept Colbert using his First Amendment right to tell it like it is from his heart and amazing brain, screw them.

[Kurovski]

28. Not any more damaging than Mark Twain was in HIS time.

But nice belly-button gazing there, 2k. But just remember that it's YOUR own bellybutton! :rofl:

Oh, and WELCOME TO DU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: I'm not real sure that the last third left of Bush supporters will even understand what hit Washington tonight.

[Jim Sagle]

71. Welcome him while he's still around.

;-)

[Kurovski]

91. I was too subtle.

But as you know, that's the law around these here parts, Jim Sagle.;-):hi:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

29. "Damaging for the Dems"??? Bwahahahahaha!!! Yeah, right!!

[Hissyspit]

34. Correspondent's Dinner is traditionally no-holds-barred.

It probably SEEMED rougher than usual because of the extremism of the administration.

[moondust]

35. Republicans LOVE hardball.

Because they're tough! Just ask them! It's THEIR game! Sit back and enjoy!

[tishaLA]

36. I honestly don't understand this kind of post

I wrote in another thread about the difference between what Colbert just did to george and what Imus did to Clinton. I said in that post that Colbert went after george for his pathetic public dossier of accumulated failures, like Iraq, New Orleans, his climate change "policy," his bad polls, etc. He did not go after him for rumors about drinking again (or his old drinking days), his reported coke use, or suggest that george had fathered chimpanzees out of wedlock; that is the kind of thing Imus did to Clinton.

And I'd also remind you that this is the head of a regime who only two years ago stood at the same podium and made fun of his inability to find WMDs in Iraq. Oh haha! He might have forgotten the lives lost in the search for those weapons....r maybe not.

I don't think talking about someone's record of accomplishments, dubious though they be, is in bad form. It was funny. And the only reason anyone would worry about it is because george is so petulant, thin-skinned, and bellicose that he can't laugh at himself.

[Evergreen Emerald]

60. This post voices the kind of thinking that has kept dems quiet for years

The dems were afraid of being labeled unpatriotic, so they sat silent as Bush and his PNAC attempted to initiate their "grand design." As Bush initiated plans that destroyed the economy, the environment, gave tax cuts to the rich, abrogated our civil rights, the dems sat in silence afraid to anger the masses to disagree with Bush.


I am sick of the silence. I am sick of the press who simply types and spell checks.

Damn he was funny.

[Gabi Hayes]

69. EXCELLENT analysis! you hit the nail there.

with Clinton, they ALWAYS went for the personal, even when it was 'political,' because they always couched it in terms of his character, or lack thereof

the media gave Clinton ZERO honeymoon, which is exactly what they did to Carter when he took office in 77. if you don't believe it, check it out

just google Walter Karp (former Harper's correspondent/editor, whatever), and see his analysis of what the mediam--and his own PARTY--did to him as soon as he assumed office

[blogslut]

37. Let the Repubs bitch and moan

Let them bust a damned gut with their bullshit outrage. I hope they get on the air and scream bloody murder! Ultimately, they'll look stupid and whiny.

[Wilber_Stool]

38. Qnyone else remember Clinton and Imus?

Payback is good.

[C_U_L8R]

42. Truth hurts

Colbert used the Truth to masterfully skewer
a tyrant who has no regard for the Truth.
Touché Motherf*cker. It was beautiful.

[Divernan]

47. The presidency is the ultimate bully pulpit

and he has every opportunity in the world to respond. You must try to recognize that being a bully AND a coward, Bush does not have the balls to directly respond. No, he and his cohort will exact revenge the Republican way - via stealth and dirty tricks.

And I did not see Bush put on a happy face during Colbert's speech.

[Kurovski]

57. At times, Bush had on the face of a stumped little chimp.

I'm fairly certain that I'm not reading too much into this.

[WiseButAngrySara]

48. Great SATIRE! You said it. B* AND the media were ashamed! ....n/t

[goclark]

81. If they were not laughing so that their jobs were protected

then it tells us what we already know.

Other than Gregory and Helen, the "reporters" are Spineless Wonders.

[RoyGBiv]

53. Bad taste? Damaging?

No.

Next question.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

55. Yeah this dinner will get * back up to 60 percent approval in no time!

[Kurovski]

58. !!!

:rofl:

[kestrel91316]

59. Bush's actions have been "bad form" for years. I say what's good for

the goose is good for the gander.

AKA: People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[JohnnyRingo]

62. Think of it as a "payback" for the entire year of abuse the press recieves

from McClellan.

[EC]

64. This was his stand,

just like when Stewart went on crossfire and told them they were hurting America...If one complains, they can't get any satisfaction unless you complain to the source, rather put your money where your mouth is...

[DS1]

67. Damaging for the dems?

Nice try :eyes:

Try not to be so freaking obvious while floating your talking points

[Brothaman2k]

73. Oh, that's right...

I forgot I can't disagree and still be a democrat. My bad. :eyes:

[havocmom]

79. You can disagree all you want,

but it helps to be on solid ground before going public with the idea that it is somehow wise to sit quietly and politely as we are rolled over by tyranny

[Richard Steele]

82. That's not what he said.

He said: "Try not to be so freaking obvious while floating your talking points".

DIFFERENT.:rofl:

[DS1]

83. and I was answered with another talking point about Dems being

agreeable to all disagreement

HMMMMMMM!

[Gabi Hayes]

95. don't be so mean....after all there ARE a few dumb DUers

not everybody here always gets it

cut the guy some slack

maybe he'll learn something from this baptism of fire

key word: learn, cause he obviously didn't bother to learn a thing about the nature of WH correspondents' dinners, did he?

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[Brothaman2k]

114. Check yourself...

Yeah, it's basicly a roast, but it ain't the damn Friar's Club.

And if you're so bright why don't we avoid the junior high name calling?

[Gabi Hayes]

131. we? "basicly?" "so bright?" least I'm basically bright enough to spell.

I'll defer to Dick Steele, as regards your other postings, btw

nuff said

[Benhurst]

72. How much respect is due a war criminal?

[Ms. Clio]

74. LOL

So sweet of you to worry, though. Really.

[saracat]

77. How often has Bush hammered us with lies and we have no opportunity to

nswer back? Fair is Fair. Colbert spoke truth to power. If only we had more Senators who did that we wouldn't be in trouble! I get your point though. But right now, the best path is to drive the point home to the Repugs! Playing nice isn't gonna work.We must strike while the iron is hot and now it is blazing!

[Peter Frank]

80. War,Gas, Katrina, NSA, Torture, Secret Prisons, Plame, Port Deal,Abramoff

...(to name a few issues) are what got * to 32% of American's approving of his "leadership."

I understand your point; but an uncomfortable half hour with an acerbic entertainer won't generate a bump that will come close to superseding the issues. It will barely be a blip on the radar.

[Brothaman2k]

86. Assuming it doesn't get a lot of play in the press...

Were I them (and thank God I'm not) I'd try to see that it did. Thus my concern. I'm not saying it's going to torpedo elections and what not, I'm just saying it could be ammunition for the opposition. I just hate giving them any.

[Swamp Rat]

96. Not me. I LOVE to give the opposition ammunition!

:D They always shoot themselves in the foot. :D

[chookie]

122. Hey --wait a minute!

Don't you mean "shoot them in the face?"

[Swamp Rat]

123. Or ass.

For those creatures it is one and the same.

[chookie]

85. No way to characterize it as a cheap shot

Stephen Colbert is a sweet man. A gentleman.

There was nothing in his performance that was rude or mean-spirited. It was a wild roller coaster of wit regarding the most important issues of our day.

For we "It Getters" it was the Performance of Performances.

Hey -- Stephen has never said he didn't have balls. He sure used them tonight.

[Quantess]

88. Aaaaww... Poor Widdle Bush. Nobody Wikes Him!

Yeah! That Colbert's a mean bully! What a meanie! :cry:
Sticks & stones may bweak his bones but names will neva huwt him. :cry:

Seriously, Dems, we should have a heart! Bush has never done anything to deserve it.:sarcasm:

[fishwax]

89. meh ... that' s what the dinner is all about

i'm watching the rerun now, and it's hilarious.

As my former (and insanely conservative) boss was fond of saying, fuck 'em if they can't take a joke :rofl:

[WCGreen]

92. Give me a break....

Don't upset the fuckheads....

Fuck 'em all....

Their time is number anyhow...

they know the web is where it's at...

[Lars39]

93. There's 2400 troops dead,

and you're worried about bush's feelings?

[Brothaman2k]

100. I swear....

A lotta folks around here only hear what they WANT to hear. I don't give a crap about Bush's feelings beyond seeing him cry if he gets impeached. My point is does this speech, that could be precieved as a left wing attack as it didn't focus on anyone but conservatives and members of the administration, if it recieves enough press, which it probably will, may have the effect of garnering this nitwit sympathy and push his numbers back up.

I'm not saying it'll happen, but it could and I don't want that to happen. The vast majority of this country is aligning against him now, forcing even members of his party to step away from supporting his agenda. Last thing I want to see is something like this soften negative responses towards him, easing the pressure for a still republican controled congress to step away from him.

[mondo joe]

103. "Could be perceived as a left wing attack".

Good lord, I hope so.

The public SHOULD see a left wing response.

What EXACTLY are you afraid of?

[Brothaman2k]

111. I was pretty clear on that...

n/t

[blonndee]

107. If this gets in the corpmedia, it'll probably reinforce, not boost,

his abyssmal ratings. He is unpopular and hated by many already.

I daresay the corpmedia is pissing their pants right now. What kind of coverage do they give it? They'll have to tread carefully because Colbert seriously kicked their sorry asses tonight too.

[Lars39]

108. You don't worry about how it looks, you just *stay* on the attack.

[blogslut]

94. This is a cheap shot

Not just bad taste but cruel. Our soldiers were dying and he made a mini movie about how funny it was that there were no WMDs.

[Gabi Hayes]

132. thanks! I was trying to find a picture from that disaster!

I have a thread on how hard the media LAUGHED at the missing WMDs, compared to how they sat like tombstones for Colbert

[LSK]

97. ummm, what do the Dems have to do with it??????

They dont control Steven Colbert!

What a silly post!

[doc03]

98. Wasn't it Truman who said when he was accused of

giving the Republicans Hell that he just tells the truth and they think it's Hell.

[NYC]

110. I think that was Adlai Stevenson.

I couldn't swear, though.

[Skittles]

101. how is the truth a cheap shot????

HOW ???

[tomg]

102. Aeschylus, Twain, Voltaire, Swift, Bruce, Pryor,

Hicks, Carlin ( and I admit that is a pretty wide range of talent). What great satire is not in "bad taste?" They are all hilarious; they are all "offensive" ( thank God). I mean Swift is talking about boiling babies. Colbert, at least tonight, joined some pretty major company. Even when he was getting no response, Colbert kept going all out. God, what guts. I always get a sense that at these things, the speakers who are on the edge have a back-up set they can swing into if they start to die. Colbert just kept hammering. If the democrats had his nerve, Bush would never have been in power in the first place.

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[mondo joe]

106. With 2/3 of the country against him who exactly is going to feel a

groundswell of sympathy for him?

[Chulanowa]

118. The backwash.

Brothaman, I think the big cause of snark right here is that you really are parroting a popular right-wing talking point, that any criticism of the president is "Bad for the democrats". The intention of this is to shore up the groaning levies around ht president. They haulked this crap out back when his numbers were at 60%, claiming that any criticism of such a "vastly popular" man would only make him MORE popular.

The reality of it is that they want to shut the criticisms up because they know they're full of it and criticism DETRACTS from the man's popularity.

Thus to many here, you could perhaps be one of the ever-pipular "I'm a life-long democrat buuuuuuut" posters (I.e., a Right-winger with a brand new DU account), or you might be one of hte unfortunates who actually and honestly believe this right wing talking piont - that the president is so widly popular, and so wildly supported, and so totally in touch and perfect and golden that any criticism of his godlike figure will only damage his critics.

Either way, your position isn't ecactly something winning a lot of cheers here, my friend :)

This in no way impacts the Democrats of America. It may cost Stephen Colbert a handful of ratings as Right-wing lulus who thought he was on their side actually catch on, and he'll certainally GAIN ratings from us left-wing lulus ( :) )but the overall impact on politics in America? Squat. Seriously.

[Richard Steele]

119. Hi, Chulanowa! Welcome to DU! nm

[AmericanDream]

112. It was truthtelling! colbert wasn't thinking about what will benefit Dems

Who gives a damn about what it does for Democrats? I'm concerned about this country - this country needs to hear Colbert's speech. It summed up the Bush presidency.

[Oilwellian]

115. Ohhh, It was such a cheap shot

The audience would much rather have watched Chimpy look for WMDs in the oval office or listened to Laura describe her darling husband milking a male horse. Those were such dignified moments and it was so moving to Americans, they turned against the Dems and became wingnuts. (making jack-off gesture)

[BeFree]

116. Ignore all these other posters, Brothaman

You are so right. Gawd forbid we get our masters upset with us, they might take away our food tommorrow.

[Seen the light]

117. Since when is Stephen Colbert an official Democratic rep? nt

[splat@14]

120. Answer "yes" to both...

[chookie]

121. Would you prefer a liberal Dennis Miller?

Colbert hit one out of the park tonight.

Worry about more important stuff, dear.

[liberalpragmatist]

124. He's a comedian - nobody's going to blame the Dems

Yeah, some in the RW media outlets will, but most ordinary Americans don't care. And given that most agree with him, what are they going to say about it?

[Guaranteed]

125. Someone FINALLY spits the awful truth in the mofo's face, and some at DU

get SCARED.

Come ON.

[nonconformist]

127. Damaging for the Dems? Cheap shot? bwahahaha

Pissed ya off, didn't it?

:bounce:

[progressivebydesign]

130. Colbert is a comedian.. it's tradition to roast the prez at these things..

In Clinton's times, he would do as good of a roasting of himself as any comedian. Does anyone not remember the past dinners with Clinton? Trying to remember the other people who did their thing there.. was it like Leno? Cuz I remember it being scathing.

People are getting their democratic panties in a wad over this, and it's a freakin' NON-ISSUE. I mean.. who really gives a fuck what Hannity thinks? Have you even watched the thing? Scalia is laughing his head off.. the Generals who Colbert was teasing were laughing. It's tradtional at these things to trash the Prez and the Admin. That's the point of it.. it's the media paying the admin back in a playful way for all of the stonewalling and BS they put up with, while roasting whomever is in office, as well.

[rman]

133. cheap no - all true, and damaging to the neocons and their apologizers

[JVS]

136. What do you mean? Colbert supports the president 100000000%

;-)

[SeveneightyWhoa]

137. Damaging for Dems, huh?

Perhaps, but only in the mind of a freeper.

"Nice" try, dipshit.

[dweller]

138. Colbert tore *moron a new assh ole.

i worry that the photoshoppers will find a vacant body part to place it on.

dp

[rucky]

139. If they wanted presidential ass-kissing humor...

why did they ask Colbert to keynote?

"they" = "the press" who will be reporting on their own event.

their mistake. he's just doing what he does every night in front of million(s?) of people.

[pitohui]

142. i thought it was funny as crap

how can it be bad for the dems, is colbert the official arbiter of what democrats believe now, i mean, i never heard of him before this morning when the hubster said why don't watch the colbert video on crooksandliars

[Bluebear]

143. "the Dems", eh 'brothaman'?

:eyes:

[devilgrrl]

144. brothaman....

yeah... uh huh... right ... sure. :eyes:

[madokie]

145. I would think that the 32% that he has lock up aren't going to make much

difference. I think the 68% loved it.

[walldude]

146. I didn't think it was funny at all

Brilliant, genius, a work of political art, but not very funny. To answer your question, um... no. How could having the balls to speak the truth be damaging? In the six years since he was "promoted" to the office of President, Bush has been around hand picked audiences, has delt with a press that lives in fear, and has "created his own reality". For once someone had the nerve to stand up and tell the President what a complete loser he is. I doubt he's going to drum up much sympathy.

[walldude]

147. Dupe

:eyes:

[MadHound]

149. Frankly, I doubt that Colbert's speech is going to have much effect

One way or the other. Because much like anything or anybody that has criticized the Bushboy, the MSM is remaining completely silent about it. Since I didn't hear Colbert's speech, I probably wouldn't have known what had happened except for the fact that I logged onto DU over the weekend.

Colbert's performance was a good one, but it is getting absolutely zero traction with the population at large. None of the TV, radio or print networks is saying a thing.

So Colbert's speech, while heartening to those of us on the left, is even making a mark with the vast majority of the population because they don't even know that it happened. This is what you get when the overwhelming majority of the media is in the hands of five corporations. And we can thank Clinton for allowing that to happen, just when we need a diverse media to expose this administration's crimes, we're instead saddled with a monopolized corporate media you remains obediently silent when any criticism of their "great leader" is spoken.

[dogday]

150. Truthiness Hurts

:evilgrin: