China laughing at us

[Rosemary2205]

while we spend the day in a tizzy over Colbert bitchslapping Bushco they have created another 100,000 jobs. Face it people. Until that 60 odd % that disapproves of Bush is willing to show up in Washington with farm implements demanding mass changes we are all screwed.

[cpousnret]

1. great post

[caledesi]

2. Rosemary, have you seen this video? It is called Ha Ha America

Subtitles...makes total fun of America. It is great, but sad to think of what this country was.

Link:


http://festival.sundance.org/2006/watch/film.aspx?which=402&category=DOC

If you cannot watch it here, go to www.canofun.com (That's where I first saw it).

MUST SEE.

edits: forgot stuff

[Minnesota Libra]

4. I saw that video and it's powerful too as well as being right on..........

.....:toast: I just wish there was a way of making it required viewing for every American. :bounce:

[Rosemary2205]

7. THANKS

Amazing - yes, very powerful. Agree it should be required for everyone.

I liked it all - they have either 1.2 Billion or 1.5 Billion depending on who's counting. - meaning our whole population- including the illegals -- is just a rounding error to them.

profound.

[WorldlyMrB]

3. Were those rice patty jobs?

America's 4.7% un-employment rate is near full employment. China has a near 30% un-employment rate where they live on starvation level govt programs with no-hope for any job.

[hamerfan]

5. Rice-patty jobs?

No, more than likely they were sweat-shop jobs making plastic trinkets for the real patriots :sarcasm: that shop exclusively at wallyworld.
dumpbush

[Kurovski]

19. It IS spelled "paddy", isn't it? (nt)

[hamerfan]

20. Yes, it is (really) paddy,

Perhaps sarcasm can be too sublime sometimes. (Economicly speaking, of course.)
dumpbush

[Kurovski]

24. Just wasn't "100%" sure.

[KitchenWitch]

6. I have a feeling you are going to be around for a long time

:eyes:

4.7% is lowball as far as unemployment records go, it only takes into account those that qualify for services, such as UI and displaced worker programs. Once these people no longer qualify, they are not necessarily employed. It also does not take into consideration those that are working 2-3 part time, non-benefits paying jobs.

Have a nice day...

[WorldlyMrB]

10. REF: I have a feeling you are going to be around for a long time

RE: 4.7% is lowball as far as unemployment records go

I know... but China is no way doing as well as America is. However, China is experience rapid growth because they came from rock bottom just 20 years.

China is doing so much better economicly now, the latest I heard is that their using 1,700% more oil than they did in 1980.

[KitchenWitch]

30. You do not need to parrot back to me what I have just said

unlike that "other" forum.

Things hear are threaded and well organized.

[WorldlyMrB]

32. unlike that "other" forum.

What "other" forum?

[KitchenWitch]

34. One that I choose not to go to

because of the hate and bile spewed forth there.

[Name removed]

8. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[WorldlyMrB]

12. China

I know China is transforming itself. both economicly and militarly, I just dont think those jobs created in China are as good paying as a U.S McDonalds job

[Rosemary2205]

15. They may make less

but their buying power is better. Not only are they transforming their own lives but transforming infrustructure - no matter how you slice it they are putting us to shame.

[NewJeffCT]

16. my Chinese mother-in-law...

Lives very nicely in a nice apartment in a nice city on her $900/year government pension. Yes, I said $900/year. She recently took a week long vacation to Thailand, and is going to Europe for a few weeks later this summer with her husband. Her husband is making maybe $2000/year working part-time.

The cost of living is a fraction of what it is here - you can buy DVDs of the latest Hollywood blockbusters for 50 cents to $1, and they aren't cheap knockoff DVDs like you buy in Chinatown in NYC or Los Angeles. They are high quality. A former co-worker of my wife relocated his family to Shanghai from Massachusetts - his wife, dog & 4 kids. One of the kids is now taking piano lessons in China & the teacher comes to their home to give lessons for $4/hour.

[WorldlyMrB]

23. REF: my Chinese mother-in-law...

REF: Lives very nicely in a nice apartment in a nice city on her $900/year government pension. Yes, I said $900/year. She recently took a week long vacation to Thailand, and is going to Europe for a few weeks later this summer with her husband. Her husband is making maybe $2000/year working part-time.

The cost of living is a fraction of what it is here - you can buy DVDs of the latest Hollywood blockbusters for 50 cents to $1, and they aren't cheap knockoff DVDs like you buy in Chinatown in NYC or Los Angeles. They are high quality. A former co-worker of my wife relocated his family to Shanghai from Massachusetts - his wife, dog & 4 kids. One of the kids is now taking piano lessons in China & the teacher comes to their home to give lessons for $4/hour.

WOW..I didnt know that!! Maybe I should become an illegal allien in China!..thanks!!

[hamerfan]

14. And if you can't buy a clue,

perhaps you can afford a spell-check....

[KitchenWitch]

31. And perhaps some punctuation lessons

unemployment is one word; no-hope does not need a dash, a simple space will do.

[NewJeffCT]

9. While China is far from perfect

Their unemployment rate is closer to 10-12% than 30.

[WorldlyMrB]

13. REF: While China is far from perfect

REF: Their unemployment rate is closer to 10-12% than 30.

Are you taking into account those whose UI has run out and are no longer looking for work?

[NewJeffCT]

17. yes

Unemployment is a huge problem in China. But, 10% unemployment is still nearly 100 million people of working age.

[WorldlyMrB]

21. 10% unemployment is still nearly 100 million people of working age.

WOW....I forgot about that...thanks!

[mcscajun]

25. Our Real Unemployment figure is a lot higher than what is reported

March 2006 Unemployment figures, Not seasonally adjusted:

U3: 4.8%

U6: 8.5%

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

U6 is the measure that takes into account the long-term unemployed and underemployed. It portrays the truth of our employment situation, not the gloss government likes to put on it.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) maintains six unemployment figures, U-1 through U-6, but the media only report U-3. The most inclusive figure, U-6, the BLS defines as "Total unemployed, plus all marginally attached workers, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all marginally attached workers" where the following definitions apply:

Marginally attached workers are persons who currently are neither working nor looking for work but indicate that they want and are available for a job and have looked for work sometime in the recent past.

Discouraged workers, a subset of the marginally attached, have given a job-market related reason for not currently looking for a job.

Persons employed part time for economic reasons are those who want and are available for full-time work but have had to settle for a part-time schedule.

http://www.underreported.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1092

[NewJeffCT]

18. Over the past 25 years

China has moved over 300 million people out of poverty. They are well on their way to moving at least another 300 million over the next 25.

In the US, we've seen a rise in the number in poverty in the past 25 years.

[WorldlyMrB]

27. REF: Over the past 25 years

REF: China has moved over 300 million people out of poverty. They are well on their way to moving at least another 300 million over the next 25.

In the US, we've seen a rise in the number in poverty in the past 25 years.

XXXX

SO that leaves what, another 400 million people to pull out of poverty?

If I was in poverty, I think would enjoy my poverty better here than in China.

[NewJeffCT]

35. They are heading in the right direction...

Is the US headed the same way?

[tkmorris]

22. You have no idea what you are talking about

First of all, the unemployment rate in the United States is not anywhere close to 4.7%. That is sheer fiction. I think the current formula for quantifying the rate of unemployment by the Bush team is to count anyone who lost their job yesterday and filed for benefits today, and whose middle name starts with the letter 'Q'.

Of course that's moot anyway because the unemployment rate has jack all to do with what China is doing to us economically right now. Here's a hint for you; take a look at the trade deficit numbers. How long do you think we can keep pouring our money into China's economy anyway?

But of course I'm wasting my time here. Your agenda is obvious, even if your grammar/spelling isn't.

[WorldlyMrB]

26. Why you mad at me?

Un-employment rate is what it is, but the original posts assertion of 100k jobs a day in china is funny..as if they were some kind of high paying U.S equelivant job.

and yes China seems to have replaced Japan as the nation who will crush America economicaly ..but it never happens.

[Tari]

28. Your sig line:

We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

Liberty defined:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

Main Entry: lib·er·ty
Pronunciation: 'li-b&r-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French liberté, from Latin libertat-, libertas, from liber free -- more at LIBERAL
1 : the quality or state of being free: a : the power to do as one pleases b : freedom from physical restraint c : freedom from arbitrary or despotic control d : the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges e : the power of choice


What is your interpretation of liberty?

Did you notice one of the roots of liberty is French?

You'll find more info on the word at LIBERAL.

[WorldlyMrB]

29. REF: Your sig line:

Hey, TY for noticing!

REF: What is your interpretation of liberty?

It is the opposite of Oppression.

(Oppression)
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Oppression is the negative outcome experienced by people targeted by the arbitrary and cruel exercise of power in a society or social group. The term itself derives from the idea of being "weighted down."

The term oppression is primarily used to describe how a certain group is being kept down by unjust use of force, authority, or societal norms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppression

[NewJeffCT]

11. My wife's Chinese

She can't believe that our country would elect somebody as stupid as Bush, or why so many people vote against their own best interests (I was explaining to her why some poor, but religious, people vote Republican solely because of abortion)

[Double T]

33. Until we all can get passed the fabricated world of GWB.........

where reality does not have a place and corporate america controls the politics, America will continue on its decline both economically and in world stature.