Private Slave Farms!... could be...

[Acebass]

Well since we already have 'For Profit Prisons', isn't this the next step. I'm not defending illegal aliens but neither can I defend the way we are preparing to handle the problem!...

Why does Halliburton has a monopoly on everything this government does...


WHO IS TO BE "DETAINED?", Posted by Jim Hightower

Look out – here comes Halliburton again! With its own personal sugar daddy occupying the the vice president's chair, this giant government contractor keeps getting multibillion-dollar, no-bid contracts from the BushCheney regime, despite having been found guilty of shoddy work, massive cost-overruns, and fraudulent billings.

Its latest windfall, however, should not merely be worrisome to tax payers, but also to anyone concerned about the Bushites' anti-democratic penchant to extend ever-more police and military power over We the People. Halliburton has been granted a $385 million contract for a most unusual project: building a network of detention centers across our country. Up to 5,000 people could be "detained" and held in each of these centers, which are to be run by homeland security authorities and possibly located on unused military bases.

"Detain," of course, is a euphemism for "incarcerate" – or "lock up." And "center" is a gentle term for "prison."

So, why does America suddenly need to spend a third-of-a-billion dollars to establish a new mass prison complex in our country? The feds and Halliburton cryptically say that the detention centers could be needed for "some kind of mass migration" or for "the rapid development of new programs." When asked what is meant by the ominous term, "new programs," a Halliburton spokeswoman said she could provide no additional information.

Another curious aspect is that the Bushites refer to this as a "contingency contract," saying that the detention centers might never be built, but that Halliburton will have the cash and authority to move quickly if and when given the go-ahead. The corporation's executive vice president says that Halliburton is "gratified," because the deal "builds on our extremely strong track record in the arena of emergency management support."

This is Jim Hightower saying... But who is to be managed, and in support of what policy?

Sources:
"Halliburton Subsidiary Gets Contract to Add Temporary Immigration Detention Centers ," The New York Times, February 4, 2006.
"KBR awarded Homeland Security contract worth up to $385M," www.marketwatch.com, January 2, 2006.
"Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps," February 6, 2006.
"Report Adds to Criticism of Halliburton's Iraq Role," The New York Times, March 29, 2006

[The Magistrate]

1. In Other Words, Sir, According To Mr. Hightower

Halliburton is being given the money for doing nothing....

[Kittycat]

2. This actually sounds much more troubling than that.

"Detention centers"?!?! If we pull out from the UN, and start disobeying prisoner abuse standards (which we already do under the guise of classified/secret) - then what is intended for these "detention centers". Nazi Germany had Detention Centers, too.

[The Magistrate]

3. They Would Have To Be Built First, Ma'am

The contract does not call for that, merely for the pre-payment of a substantial sum in exchange for no service rendered immediately but receipt of the funds from the public treasury. That is a touch raw even for this current pack of thieves....

[Kittycat]

10. Throw some bars on the window barracks, and electrify the inner gates...

Add several highly armed and trained "Special Guards" and voila.

Just sayin'

[Acebass]

14. I wouldn't put anything past them...I'd love to see the contract...n/t

[Acebass]

5. A lot more, and far more sinister...

We kept German war prisoners in places like Brechenridge Ky...we intered Japanese Americans...we now imprison more of our citizens,(in public and private prisons)than any other country...
This secrative administration has a lot of questions to answer thats why we must be sure to take back congress this year! 2006 is here!...

[Acebass]

4. Would seem so wouldn't you say...

[Sinti]

6. In a good Christian theocracy slavery would be the norm

This is one of the new rules the Dominionists would institute for us, according to Biblical law, of course.

It would be logical to assume that the institution of slavery would be reintroduced, and regulated according to Biblical laws. Fathers could sell their daughters into slavery. Female slaves would retain that status for life. Slave owners would be allowed to physically abuse them, as long as the slaves lived for at least a day before dying of the beating."


Many even think it would be good for America.

"The reinstitution of slavery appears to be a hot button item among Reconstructionists. We have received a few negative E-mails which complained that the movement does not recommend the resumption of human slavery. But we have received many more Emails from Reconstructionists claiming that legalizing slavery would be good for North America."

Both quotes taken from:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm

Believers in election fraud via computer might want to look into exactly who owns and pays for those machines. 80 percent of your votes are counted by companies owned by two brothers (Todd and Bob Urosevich), who were financed by one Howard Ahmanson, all three of whom are Christian Reconstructionists. Disturbing facts, regardless of personal belief.

[Acebass]

7. For Profit Prisons are slave farms...n/t

[slaveplanet]

8. "some kind of mass migration"

Just what kind would that be?

It's pretty simple...fences are cheaper than prisons.

Fences work, they worked in the USSR, they worked in east Germany, they'll work in Israel and they work just about anywhere they are dilligently attended to.

If you really want to stop, slow or just manage a mass migration, the fence is the proper item in which to invest.

[Sinti]

12. They worked in the USSR, they worked in east Germany

You realize they were put up to keep people in in both of those cases.

We need more than that. Personally, I'm just itching to have a fence, make it an electric one like they have around military bases, at both borders, Mexico and Canada (can't be accused of hating on the brown man then). We should also have Checkpoint Charlies at strategic points on all interstates. That would definitely keep out and catch lots of illegal aliens. :sarcasm:

[slaveplanet]

16. hmm, and I suppose "prisons"

are built to keep people out by your logic.

Sinti wrote:
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You realize they were put up to keep people in in both of those cases.
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Yes those were built to keep people in and
the ones in Israel and Southern California are to keep people out.

In , out...whats the difference?...they are both extremely effective at their purpose.

In a perfect world there would be no fences and no need for mass migrations, but the world is far from perfect.

What is the purpose of the president of Mexico paying millions to Bush's former campaign PR company to convince us that we shouldn't pass legislation to continue building a fence?

Couldn't those millions be better used to help the citizens of Mexico?

What's the purpose of Mexico policing it's southern border?
What's the purpose of the coast guard?

Try leaving the continent without a passport, there are already many controls in place to restrict the freedom of movement...even in the so-called "land of the free"

It's already a brave new world.

[MercutioATC]

9. Did you miss the "contingency contract" part?

The government hands out plenty of these:

https://dmmonline.dscp.dla.mil/ready/Contingency_Contracts.asp

http://enr.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0271-23143/Air-Force-Contingency-Contract-Seeks.html

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=13423

http://www.usaid.gov/press/factsheets/2003/fs030320_1.html

Some get executed, some don't. However, contingency contracts are a dime a dozen. I don't see why this particular contract merits such attention.

[Sinti]

13. It is more disturbing to some folks, because of a long-time CT

regarding detention of American citizens, and previous plans to do so during Reagan and Nixon's administration. I think it's the "other programs" part that bothers folks the most.

I really wish I was as blase about it as you are. I'm paranoid though -- a lot of things bother me.

[Acebass]

15. If this administration where more transparent...

but "who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men", and I'm no shadow...

[MercutioATC]

17. "Contingency contract" to "private slave farms" is a stretch though, no?

[readmoreoften]

11. That K. Rove is a Smarty Pants.

1) If War in Iraq goes Awry, How Will We Go To Iran?
2) Distract the people. Confuse them with a complex problem like immigration.
3) Build Detention Centers for Immigrants
4) Start War in Iran Behind Radar
5) Precipitating Incident, New "New Pearl Harbor"
6) Detain and Deport Immigrants. Get Americans Used to Detention Camps.
7) Precipitating Incident, New "New New Pearl Harbor"
8) Round up the next group.

Rinse. Repeat.

[paparush]

18. And for a Modest Proposal, they'll throw in lunch....