Fundie at the beach yesterday.

[maveric]

Was walking around bashing The Da Vinci Code, book and film, calling it lies that threaten chritianity in America. He was taking donations and signing people up for a BOOK BURNING!

So there I was, in a pissy mood to begin with, listening to him yammering about how EVIL the Da Vinci Code is...and I called him on his bullshit.

I told him that the book is FICTION sold in the FICTION section of bookstores. He told me that the book threatens Xtianity with all those lies and he doesnt want young people to get those evil and untrue thoughts in their heads.

Asked him if he takes the entire bible literally. He said yes, which prompted to ask if its OK to sell your daughter into slavery to escape debt. Or to be killed for eating shellfish. He walked away saying that he has no time for this conversation and went on to another group that seemed to dismiss him like I did.

Oh so sweet! A good ole fashion BOOK BURNING!

[Warpy]

1. If you'd followed him,

you would have been treated to the spectacle of an adult human being with his fingers in his ears singing some hymn at the top of his lungs.

As it is, I'm surprised he didn't point at you like some Pod Person and shriek that you'd been DORKsided (that's how they pronounce it).

Consider your clean getaway fortuitous.

[napi21]

2. That's the same method Bernie Ward uses when a real fundie calls.

I really enjoy the arguments he has on his "God Talk" show each Sunday AM.

Every one I've heard so far ends up hanging up because theyr ealize they're loosing the argument!!!!

[Democrats_win]

3. Shows the "christians never change" Da Vinci's time: book burning too.

They called in bonfire of the vanities since they burned other things too.

[AX10]

4. Just like the Dixie Chicks. It seems that right wing facists...

have a perverse love with "book burning". Just as with the Dixie Chicks, if they don't like them, they stage a book burning. :puke:

[rurallib]

5. Ah! the smell of ideas burning so they will never be shared!

I don't know which is dumber - a guy who would burn a book the many millions have read or the people who would give him money to do it?
If he wants to burn something thatwould do some good have him burn a copy of the Bush budget. No one has ever read it and then we could make a few changes when it's reprinted.

[mdmc]

6. ha ha

it ain't easy bein fundi on da beach!

[Turbineguy]

15. That may be

but you can look at all those bikini clad babes.

Oh, I forgot, you could turn into a pillar of salt!

[Raksha]

7. Yeah, it would be a PEOPLE BURNING too, if such things

were still legal: the author, producer, director, etc. etc. etc.

Re >>Was walking around bashing The Da Vinci Code, book and film, calling it lies that threaten chritianity in America. He was taking donations and signing people up for a BOOK BURNING!<<

Although book burnings are plenty bad enough! I still haven't forgiven the early Christian zealots for burning the library at Alexandria.

[JVS]

8. The book might be fiction, but a lot of people seem to be taking it...

seriously. :shrug: Erasmus' "In Praise of Folly" was fiction as well, that doesn't mean that it didn't have a lot of things to say about the Church.

[LiberalPartisan]

9. Perhaps

Dan Brown isn't in Erasmus' league and anyone who takes the DVC seriously, even remotely, is seriously lacking critical thinking skills.

[JVS]

12. Brown is just bringing up the issue of the non-canonical books...

in a popular culture setting. It's kind of like when Different Strokes did that episode about that creepy molester guy who gave booze to Willis. Neither Brown nor Different Strokes are authorities on the matters, but they both stir the pot.

[Raksha]

11. It's the latest battle in their war against the Gnostics,

and it's been going on for almost 2000 years now. The Da Vinci Code may be fiction, but it alludes to certain Gnostic themes like the spiritual (and sexual???) union between Jesus and Mary Magdalene as a "type" of the union of opposites, which even the New Testament can't completely gloss over.

As long as these speculations are confined to ivory-tower scholarly types and/or New Age wackos, the fundies just grumble about it under their breath, but they go ballistic the second these ideas show up in the POPULAR media. Can't have the sheeple getting wind of the fact that their brand of Christianity wasn't and isn't the only game in town!

[JVS]

14. Well in that case, do they not have cause to be concerned?

One cannot have it both ways, you can't say "This book is merely fiction, nothing to be concerned about" and at the same time say "You're just trying to keep Gnosticism down by attacking this book". Fictional or not, either a book raises issues or it doesn't and it is critiqued in light of that. I've never seen an interpretation of "Animal Farm" that said, "It's just a story, nothing to be seen here"

[Raksha]

24. Yeah, I guess they have cause to be concerned

because fiction or not, the book does raise issues that have been controversial in Christianity. There is no question about that. Still, their attitude shows a great deal of insecurity, as well as intolerance and belligerence. Not exactly convincing coming from people who claim to have "The Truth"!

[Mythsaje]

10. Stealing a line from a old RPG

I say "feel free to buy and burn as many copies of MY books as you like."

Controversy SELLS books...and if the Fundies ever get a line on MY stuff, they're gonna HATE it.

:evilgrin:

[barb162]

13. Or to be killed for eating shellfish???

what's that about

[peacebaby3]

19. Actually, that is incorrect. Eating shellfish is considered an abomination

and detestable, but not punishable by death. There are quite a few things that do qualify for a punishment of death, but eating shellfish is not one of them, if I remember correctly.

[Eric J in MN]

21. Shellfish isn't kosher.

Though Paul had a dream described in the New Testament in which God says people don't have to keep kosher, and so I'm not sure that's the best argument to apply to a Christian.

[Dr. Death]

16. "Goose-stepping nazis such as yourselves should try reading books

instead of burning them."

My favorite Sean Connery line from Indiana Jones & the Last Crusade.

[maveric]

20. I did say..."Book burning is soooo 3rd reich".

His response: "We need to get the message out somehow. Plus it gets the books away from kids that might get the wrong idea".
I laughed at him.

[Infomaniac]

17. Nominated.

Somehow some Fundies believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible only if it applies to sexual behavior. Homosexuals bad. Shellfish fine.

[Dr. Death]

26. If scientists ever discover a species of homosexual shellfish,

boy won't the fundies be confused!

[Mr_Spock]

18. More sales for Dan Brown!! They gotta buy those books to burn somewhere!!

Freepers are stupid fucks who miss the point so regularly as to seem like they have single-digit IQ's.

:D

[maveric]

23. Exactly!

Dan Brown wont mind if they buy his book for the sole purpose of burning it.

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. The only Christians threatened by this book

are the Pauline Christians who took over the church between 200 - 400 AD. They deemed everyone else heretics and the rest is history.
The result is that most christians today do not follow the teachings of Jesus and they don't even realize it.

Anything to do with gnostic teaching is automatically discredited. If they think Brown's book is bad, they should read the stuff they found at the Nag Hammadi library. Talk about blasphemy.

[Joey Liberal]

25. I've got to get that book n.t

[Initech]

27. Bwahahaha, joke's on him because in order to burn the book...

you have to buy it first! So hey, they still get a ton of sales for the Da Vinci Code, despite the fact that these morons want to burn it. Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!

:rofl:

[smirkymonkey]

30. Beat me to it....

what an idiot! Bwahahahhah! (the fundie, not you)

:rofl:

[Maven]

28. Ugh, I hate you

You were at the beach and I was stuck in the city! ;)

Great story, btw. k/r

[maveric]

29. A very "Blue" Beach area to boot.

Ocean Beach that is. Hippies, musicians, artists and potheads.
He didnt get much support there.

[PatGund]

38. He tried this in OB???

Damn. Just how stupid *was* this pinhead? Let me guess, Bible Missionary Fellowship in Santee, right? They're about this level of stupid.

(Dang. Now I'm missing Hodad's. And San Diego in general)

[NAO]

31. The Da Vinci Code is More Historical than the Gospels

Some of the stuff in the Da Vinci code is real.

EVERYTHING in the Gospels is made up. They are 100% pure BS.

Read Robert M. Price's book, "The Incredible Shrinking Son of Man". He goes thru the entire Gospels, and shows how they every single event and saying is false.

[knitter4democracy]

32. We must have a weak faith, then.

I mean, if a work of fiction can destroy us .. . . :eyes: Idiot.

[NAO]

33. Christianity is a Mass of Lies, Forgeries, and Distortions of History

Christianity is a 2,000 year saga of fraud piled on forgery piled on lies, piled on distortions, supported by the destruction of books and manuscripts that would expose their lies.

Forgery In Christianity - Exhaustive Proof that the Early Church Fathers fabricated lies, forgeries, and suppressed all contrary evidence
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/joseph_wheless/forgery_in_christianity/

Jesus Never Existed - a Massive Compendium or Resources and Research on the Lies, Frauds, Cruelty, and Destruction caused by Xtianity
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com

The Jesus Puzzle - an airtight case that there was never a historical person "Jesus", but that early xtians worshiped a heavenly Christ figure that was later literalized and historicized
http://jesuspuzzle.com

[dorktv]

34. As I was so aptly reminded by someone morning the loss of JKG:

"I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative." J.S. Mill

[Hardrada]

35. That's why I'm interested in Buddhism.

I can't recall any Buddhist saying you have to believe all of the Sutras literally or you can't be a real Buddhist. Or rival Buddhist sects having Inquisitions against each other.

[PsychoDad]

36. I find it sad....

That this man's faith is so weak that it is threatened by a work of fiction.

Peace.

[NMMNG]

37. If anybody's faith is so weak that it is threatened by a silly book,

it wasn't all that to begin with.

And why do fundies think it's ok to publish all matter of literature that bashes whomever they like, and even advocates harming others (gays, atheists, etc), yet they seek to ban or burn anything that they feel impugns Christianity in even the slightest way? Their works are protected by the First Amendment but others are not? :wtf: