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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:34 AM
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FYI - the DOW is at -170 points right now
the bleeding is not over, make - 172
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:36 AM
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1. down 170, right?
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:37 AM
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5. yes NEGATIVE as in red
now it is at -177 - WTF is going on?
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:37 AM
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2. holy shit
it isn't noon yet.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:37 AM
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3. now -180...what's happening?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:37 AM
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4. It's inflation.
AP - Stocks plunged Wednesday after a stronger-than-expected rise in consumer inflation fueled Wall Street's fear that interest rates will keep climbing. The Dow Jones industrial average lost more than 145 points.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:38 AM
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6. Yep, scary stuff, I have been keeping a very close eye on
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:40 AM
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7. yep me to - the NASDAQ comp just fell through its 200 MA
take cover folks
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:40 AM
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8. Don't believe it. Reported by MSM. Economy is great. Move along.
Edited on Wed May-17-06 10:42 AM by NRaleighLiberal
Pickles will be on TV saying that she doesn't believe those numbers.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:44 AM
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14. And she'll say that everyone she knows in the stock market
is very wealthy and has had no problems and that they genuinely LIKE playing the stock market.

:rofl:
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:41 AM
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9. Crap, There Goes The Great Economy...
again. :rofl:

Jay
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:43 AM
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10. So, is the economy officially "robust" now?
Or just "bust?"
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:44 AM
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13. re-bust
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:43 AM
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11. Pump and Dump....Getting ready for the "Summer of Terror"...
Suckers...
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:44 AM
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12. It's a lot more fun if you hold your arms up in the air!
YAHOOOOO!


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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:45 AM
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15. Trading curbs have just been implemented.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:58 AM
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19. That would be a trading "collar" on options not a halt (circuit breaker)
Edited on Wed May-17-06 11:10 AM by leveymg
on trades of stock. Here's the poop: http://www.allstocks.com/markets/Circuit_Breakers/circuit_breakers.html

Circuit Breaker Trigger Points and Trade Halt Durations for Second Quarter*, 2006 for the NYSE, NASDAQ and OTCBB Markets.


Before 1:00 P.M.
Before 2:00 P.M.
2:00 - 2:29 P.M.
2:30 p.m. or Later

1100-point Decline in the Dow
1 Hour Halt
1 Hour Halt
1/2 Hour Halt
No Halt

2250-point Decline in the Dow
2 Hour Halt
1 Hour Halt
Close For Day
Close For Day

3350-point Decline in the Dow
Close For Day
Close For Day
Close For Day
Close For Day



Trading-collars, which restrict index-arbitrage trading to stabilizing, will be triggered during First-quarter 2005 when the DJIA moves 160 points or more above or below its closing value on the previous trading day and removed when the DJIA is above or below the prior day's close by 80 points.


The point decline levels at which trading will be halted change every quarter. Limits are percentage based levels of 10%, 20%, and 30% declines in the Dow. The actual numerical points will be determined based on the state of the market each calendar quarter.


* First Quarter is January, February and March.

* Second Quarter is April, May and June.

* Third Quarter is July, August and September.

* Fourth Quarter is October, November and December.


Adopted on Oct. 19, 1988, circuit breakers originally halted trading for one hour with a 250-point drop and two hours with a 400-point decline. From Feb. 3, 1997 until last April, circuit breakers called for trading halts of 30 minutes and one hour with 350- and 550-point declines, respectively. If triggered in the last 30 or 60 minutes of the trading session, respectively, the market was closed until the next trading day.

Circuit breakers were triggered for the first and only time on Oct. 27, 1997, when the DJIA fell 350 points at 2:35 p.m. and 550 points at 3:30 p.m. That reflected an approximate 7% overall decline and shut the market for the remainder of the day .


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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:15 AM
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29. There she goes !
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:29 PM
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45. !!!!!! tell me more. Where did you hear that?
Exactly what is curbed? Volume? Hours?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:46 AM
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16. That would matter 20 years ago
It's 157 points out of more than 10,000
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:56 AM
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18. It is still 1% in a day.
When one earns 7% a year on a typical investment, losing 1% in a day would seem to be notable.

Especially when the value of the underlying assets has been watered by inflation.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:23 AM
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35. And not too long ago it was up 1%
But I didn't see any of the same shit-in-pants posting then :shrug:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:26 AM
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37. who said anything about shit-in-pants posting
Edited on Wed May-17-06 11:28 AM by stop the bleeding
see post# 36 for more info. Today is not a bad day if you know what you are doing.

on edit: today can be a great day if people knew how to use it to their advantage.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:28 AM
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40. the top half of this thread
too much finger-wringing
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:31 AM
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42. oh
Edited on Wed May-17-06 11:31 AM by stop the bleeding
I thought that was directed at my OP, I usually would have kept this on the Stock Market thread in LBN but I thought people should know - me personally I made %10-%15 before things took a turn this morning. So needless to say I have the popcorn out right now.:popcorn:

Tonight I am going to look for some Naked Calls to sell before Friday's expiration - this is fun
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 10:53 AM
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17. Help me out. What does this mean? And in very basic terms, please.
How does it affect my budget and my retirement plan?
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kma3346 Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:02 AM
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20. And where can you put your money
So that it is safer in this type of situation????

:scared:
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:27 AM
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39. No one place is safe.

Stocks, obviously aren't safe.
The dollar probably shouldn't be considered safe at this point.
Metals/commodities could be in a bubble, or just starting sustained climbs, who knows?
Foreign currencies do strange things based on market hysteria.

So your best bet is to not put all your eggs on one hindenburg.

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Jayhawk Lib Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:22 AM
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33. It means that it is a good
day to buy stocks.Buy on the downside and sell on the upside.There is nothing tat is different than yesterday or even a week ago when it was higher. So it is a pretty good time to buy....
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:27 AM
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38. That's assuming that one has spare cash around to
play craps in the stock market. My retirement plan is 1)vested and 2)one of those unwieldy things in which you move percentages between a series of groups of different kinds of stocks.

I'm really scared now. We are living on one income now and my husband is close to retirement age. I'm unemployed, and we both have chronic health issues that require follow-up with fairly expensive lab procedures. The medication we need to take is minimal. Medicine is not the problem. Jobs are drying up in the area. We can get by till I find something, even temporarily.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:04 AM
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21. Wall Street can't pretend any more
that everything in the garden is coming up roses.

The fiscal bungling of the Repuglican Party has come home to roost, bigtime, and Wall Street has finally realized that their screwball economic policies are simply unsustainable, not to mention delusional.

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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:22 AM
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32. Plus bush is signing another tax cut for the rich today!
No big deal, msm is barely mentioning this fact.

That will help the rich through any mini crash or anything else.

Last week the market was roaring upward. Now what is happening? Roaring downward?

Think, think. What happened during Reagan's Boom time; bkcy., outrageous interest rates, crash time, bush 1 played the game of U.S. debt is No Problem. Done that, been there, hang on. At that time we didn't have troops dying daily. I have no idea how the market works but this looks bizarre and not good.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:06 AM
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22. linky
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3683270/

inflation going up means fed will continue to raise interest rates means business slowdown.

Mission Accomplished, redux for the chimpy.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:08 AM
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23. This would never have happened if we we had just done
as great leader asked and privatized our social security system and tied it all into the market... :sarcasm:
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:10 AM
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24. Hehe, it's just a mid-week sell off, taking in profits...
Edited on Wed May-17-06 11:11 AM by ShaneGR
It's down 155 as of right now, nothing to panic over. Keep in mind it has gone up over the last two weeks. I get a kick out of the "SKY IS FALLING!" posts, so reactionary. If it was down 300, now that would be worrying.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:12 AM
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26. I know we are trying to keep some sort of perspective
but it has lost 320 pts in the last week combined. some profit taking indeed ;)
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:11 AM
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25. Oh no, it's all HUGO's fault for wanting to go with Euro!
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:14 AM
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27. Call out the ppt
Time to go to work guys. The nasdaq has been losing grouvnd every day for over a week now and the dow has basically been flat, nothing to get excited about. Here comes snakeyes.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:15 AM
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28. so its a good time to buy huh
Edited on Wed May-17-06 11:24 AM by LSK
You dont loose money on days like this unless you sell. Consider days like today as a sale.

Trading stocks is not for the squeemish. Unfortunately, a lot of people see a day like today, panic and sell.

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:18 AM
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30. if you what you are doing you can make a lot of $$$ on
days like today and you don't even need to own the stock
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:20 AM
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31. shorting?
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:25 AM
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36. yep
or buying Puts on options or selling naked Calls on options after this Friday is expiration time.
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:23 AM
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34. Dollar cost averaging, baby....
It's what's for dinner.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:28 AM
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41. The dollar has been taking a beating. eom
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:34 AM
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43. Well, there goes my 401k
:-(
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APPLE314 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:25 PM
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44. Rumsfield asked for $65,000,000,000.00 more
Or.......
The Money Supply ( M1 and M2 ) totals about $1.3 Trillion. The stock market is worth about $45 Trillion. There isn't enough money on earth to by all the stocks. Maybe they are a little over priced.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:31 PM
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46. Dropping like a rock down over 200 now.
:shrug: buying opportunity I guess.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:39 PM
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47. Down ***203.87*** at 13:27!!
:wow:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:41 PM
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48. Is there something they know, we dont??? nt
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 01:01 PM
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49. Why do I hear Michael Douglas' voice in these posts?
I'm reading this thread, and Michael Douglas is talking to me.:crazy:
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