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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:45 AM
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HOLY CRAP!!! Harper's and Mr. Fish don't mince words.


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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:47 AM
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1. WOW
that was in Harper's?
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:47 AM
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2. Yes!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:49 AM
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4. oh my, I hope's it's in the print version, too!
I'll say it again- WOW!
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:47 PM
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40. It's On-Line Only ... But Read The Current Issue's "Notebook"!
It's called "On Common Decency."
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:02 AM
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11. Sure was
Harper's is the best magazine out there, better even than The Nation, my other favorite.

It's the one I struggle to read even with failing eyesight and a raging headache.

Plus, the crosswords are to die for.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:49 AM
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3. OUTSTANDING!!!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:52 AM
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5. I got a subscription after their article of the Ohio Election theft.
This magazine never disappoints!
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:54 AM
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6. I enjoy it too.
I love the weekly review and index.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:32 PM
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30. Dr. Benjamin DeMott's essay about the 9/11 Commission
"Whitewash as Public Service" did a lot to bring me to the 911 Truth movement.

http://www.harpers.org/WhitewashAsPublicService.html

Lewis Lapham has signed the WorldCantWait statement.

http://www.worldcantwait.org/

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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 06:53 AM
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42. Best US monthly.
Current issue - with cover and essay by Art Spiegelman - is fantastic. I'll miss Lapham, but Harper's is obviously in good hands.
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Truthy Nessy Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:54 AM
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7. wowee zowie!!!
My mouth is still open!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:56 AM
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8. Mr. Fish and Steve Bell don't FFF around
Edited on Sat May-20-06 11:01 AM by Gabi Hayes
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:03 AM
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12. Another of my recent favorites here:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:04 AM
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13. Cagle at Slate has a whole bunch of his cartoons
some really NASTY stuff there, too
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:40 AM
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17. LOL! Make that he and Laura are "unconvinced!" But, but, but.... they
don't pay attention to polls! (Let alone read!
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:59 AM
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9. Ain't it the truth!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:59 AM
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10. Finally, someone who will print
what I think! Mr Fish is obviously well-schooled and isn't afraid to print the truth.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:16 AM
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14. ROMFFLmao
WORST PRETZELDINK ever
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:22 AM
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15. Mr. Fish is one of the best. Here's a link to many more Fish 'toons
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:43 AM
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19. Those are great. I love "support our quagmire."
Thanks for posting.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:45 AM
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21. Yes, he really has a bite! Did you see this one?
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:47 AM
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22. They really are spot on with their subtle critiques.
Time to renew the subscription.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:20 PM
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26. I missed that one. It is effing powerful.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:23 AM
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16. ''Johnny's an American, Johnny looks up at the stars.
Johnny's an American, Johnny loves pussy and cars....''



I'm Afraid of Americans--David Bowie
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:40 AM
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18. Holy crap is right.
Edited on Sat May-20-06 11:41 AM by Hoping4Change
I love Harper's. Thanks for posting. BTW that quote from Plato is so on the mark.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:43 AM
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20. This is AMAZING! I've loved Harper's for years. Your post title is
excellent, also!

:kick: and R! For Hope of exposure of the rats!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:05 PM
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23. Court throws out former CIA officer's conviction after 20 years in prison
October 29, 2003 11:09 AM

The Associated Press

HOUSTON - A federal judge threw out the conviction of a former CIA operative who has spent 20 years in prison for selling arms to Libya, saying the government knowingly used false evidence against him.

Edwin P. Wilson, 75, was convicted in 1983 of shipping 20 tons of C-4 plastic explosives to Libya - something he said he did to ingratiate himself with the Libyan government at the CIA's request.

In a scathing opinion released Tuesday, U.S. Judge Lynn N. Hughes said the federal government failed to correct information about Wilson's service to the CIA that it admitted internally was false ..

Adler said the Reagan-era officials who pushed the case had been embarrassed by revelations they were trading arms for information and made Wilson a scapegoat ..

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/103-10292003-187178.html


International Man of Mystery
The Ex-CIA Agent And Current Convict Has Many Stories To Tell. Some May Even Be True.
By Peter Carlson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 22, 2004; Page C01

WHITE DEER, Pa.

.. But the fun ended in 1982, when Wilson was lured out of Libya in a sting operation and arrested in the Dominican Republic. In three highly publicized trials, he was convicted of gunrunning, selling 20 tons of C-4 plastic explosives to Libya, and conspiring to kill his prosecutors. By early 1984, at age 55, he was sentenced to 52 years in prison and his many enemies figured he'd never get out.

Wilson swore he'd been framed, that he was working for the CIA all along. Few people paid attention. Half the cons in prison grumble about being framed by somebody.

But Wilson spent 12 years prying documents out of the CIA and the Justice Department with endless Freedom of Information Act requests. Last October, his efforts paid off: Citing those documents, a Houston federal judge threw out Wilson's conviction in the C-4 explosives case, ruling that the prosecutors had "deliberately deceived the court" about Wilson's continuing CIA contacts, thus "double-crossing a part-time informal government agent." ...

By 1996, he'd uncovered a Justice Department memo titled "Duty to Disclose Possibly False Testimony. " It described the CIA's Briggs affidavit -- which had helped persuade the Houston jury to convict Wilson -- as "inaccurate." Wilson filed a motion to overturn the Houston conviction, attaching the memo as evidence ..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59212-2004Jun21.html





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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:21 PM
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27. wow! I knew that's who it was.....I remember very well when that
Edited on Sat May-20-06 12:21 PM by Gabi Hayes
all came down

all over TV

the guy who wrote Serpico....Peter Maas....did one on Wilson; very damning, and I believed all the condemnatory stuff written and televised. swallowed it whole

they interviewed Wilson from out of the country at the time, and all the stuff he said looks like it turns out to be true!

what a surprise
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:57 PM
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31. That's deserves its own thread, struggle4progress.
Thanks for posting!

:hi:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:19 PM
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39. Well, it's not exactly LBN anymore -- but is sometimes worth remembering

If a CIA operation, Edwin Wilson's 1977 sale of 20 tons of C4 plus detonators to Libya would have been initiated while GHWB was DCI, but the actual sale may have occurred after GHWB left the DCI post in January ...
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:33 AM
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44. Still a good post.
I don't always have time to catch all this great stuff here at DU. I am continually impressed with the amount of information I can garner here.


Thanks again!

:hi:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:14 PM
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24. the essay we dare not mention
In the latest issue is an essay so supercharged that we dare not even type the central sentence here.

I've never quite seen anything as stunning and courageous in print. We did discuss it a bit on DU last week

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=210393&mesg_id=210393
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:19 PM
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25. the offending lines are here, a couple clicks down
you'll know it when you see it, but here's a starter:

'Am I allowed to write that I.......'


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/17/213832/793
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:31 PM
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28. thanks much
someone finally posted what I was afraid to post.

What did you think of the essay?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:03 PM
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32. Wow!
:scared:

Colbert-sized cojones.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:24 PM
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36. That's just amazing.
Thanks for sharing Gabi.

:hi:
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:49 PM
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37. There's a link to a pdf file in this thread...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x211371

Scroll down. Silverweb posted the link. There's something about pdf files - I can't seem to edit/copy the url. So I linked to the thread.

Everyone should read this article. I don't know what the problem is with quoting it here. Metcalf did not (technically) advocate violence against anyone.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 06:41 AM
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41. I am not sure what the problem with quoting is either.
I've heard far worse things said. :shrug:
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:01 AM
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43. It makes me wonder about some DUer's reading comprehension skills..
Edited on Sun May-21-06 08:06 AM by truth2power
Whatever he may, or may not, have been thinking, Metcalf did not threaten the Blivet or anyone else. This is what we've come to - afraid to open our mouths.

Osama must be laughing his ass off. Oh wait....that wouldn't be Osama...

Anyway, now it's going to be about thought crimes. Just what "those who perpetrated 9/11" (see OP toon for a hint) wanted. Makes me want to :puke:


edit> to add: see OP toon..

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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:38 PM
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29. Harpers is unquestionably the..
..most patriotic quasi-"mainstream" publication in America.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:25 PM
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33. Nice find
k/r
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:28 PM
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34. Day-um!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:29 PM
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35. Saving this one to
pass around! Wonder if it makes bush's monkey blood boil or will they let him see it?!

The truthiness HURTS.. squatter!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:07 PM
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38. Busholini and his entire Junta should be flown
to Fallujah and dropped off with no luggage.
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