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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:37 AM
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Iraqi Tennis Players Shot for Wearing Shorts ..... Mission Accomplished.
And yet * keeps talking about freedom and democracy that the Iraqis now live under
thanx to his bone headed war. May God forgive us.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-2199305,00.html#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=World

<THE coach of the Iraqi national tennis team and two of his players were shot dead in Baghdad, apparently for wearing shorts, in a district where Islamic radicals have started to enforce brutal, Taleban-style law.

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Three men in civilian clothes surrounded the car and ordered the passengers to get out. When they refused, one of the men produced a revolver and shot the players. The coach sat helplessly in the back while the assailants dragged out the players’ bodies and dumped them in the road. Then one of the assailants cocked a handgun and shot the coach in the head.

The dead men were wearing green sports jerseys emblazoned with the word “Iraq”. One of the shirts bore an Olympics patch.

An Iraqi National Guard checkpoint was about 100m from the site of the ambush, but the soldiers did nothing, witnesses said. They added that gunmen had used the same car in the past two months during attacks on the owner of an electrical parts shop and a pedestrian. Local people suspect that the murders have been carried out by the Islamic militants roaming al-Saidiyah and the adjoining district of al-Amariyah.>

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:41 AM
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1. See? There are good news - they play tennis! Leave it to you, libruls
to focus on the shooting detail!

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:45 AM
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2. I know you kid but I love tennis.
:cry:

What the hell have we done?
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:48 AM
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3. mayonnaise ???
...In addition, the leaflet forbids men from wearing goatee beards and anyone from buying mayonnaise. The leaflet threatens violators with death.


I bet Hellman's is glad we are there to fight the good fight.

Anybody has the slightest idea why buying mayonnaise is worthy of death???
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:52 AM
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5. Do you know the # of calories in that baby? Straight to your thighs!
Edited on Sat May-27-06 09:01 AM by robbedvoter
I myself earned death many times over!

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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:55 AM
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7. Wondered about that myself
...that they should not eat Mayonnaise because it contains tallow which is of swine origin.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/KeshtoPatel50324.htm
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 09:19 AM
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10. Interesting that the the article says even buying a swine product
is worthy of death.

I can understand {not really} why they would slit your throat because you actually consumed some filthy pig products. I mean that really is a terrible thing to do as opposed to putting a bullet in your neighbor head.

:shrug:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:50 AM
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4. Gee Saudi must be free. I saw boys in shorts in that country
I also saw girls playing covered from head to foot and also in the water the same way. I guess that is still better than being shot for shorts. I have also seen some of our own people that should be covered from head to foot but that is another story. Shot for playing a game in shorts is really way out there. Iraq is going back wards fast.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:53 AM
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6. I hope you guys get it now...
eventually they will want to determine what YOU wear too. They never just stop with making women's lives miserable.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:58 AM
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8. that's fucked up nt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:58 AM
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9. More peeance and freence......... nt
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 09:25 AM
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11. Faithful ugly fanatics!
We still have a great number of this type in the US, so it is hard to take over another country like Afghanistan, and Iraq or any Islamic nation and order them to change!
Islam is not anything like Christianity in that you don't plan to change anything with love, ONLY DEATH! A child may be beaten to death at any age for any disobedience, a woman for not being covered, and a man for not having a prayer cloth.
Anything, that whoever has the guns or knives, may deem wrong, is automatically a quick death sentence!
When Christians cannot see the "truth" in over 2000 years, how can Islamics know or feel anything in only just over 1400?
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:17 AM
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12. "Islam is not anything like Christianity......
...in that you don't plan to change anything with love, ONLY DEATH!" Ever hear of Cromwell? Any number of the Popes? The Salem Witch Trials? The Spanish Inquisition? The list of Christian atrocities could go on and on. The problem isn't with Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, or whatever, the problem lays with the fanatics perverting their religions.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:05 PM
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13. "The list of Christian atrocities could go on and on".
only problem with your analogy is the Christian list is about 400 years old. Islamic atrocities are on the front page of your newspaper every day

Let's do a comparative study on Islam and Christianity in about 400 years until then, that argument is a straw man one at best.

There ia a serious problem in the world today with radical Islam, which have adherents of about 10% of one billion people.
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:37 PM
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14. Do you not think if given the opportunity,
that anyone of our "Christian" fanatics would gladly kill in the name of God? Eric Rudolph comes to mind. I can imagine that there are thousands of Eric Rudolphs in our "Christian" churches today. What is holding them in check? Maybe it is our secular government. The same secular government that is under attack by our homegrown religious fanatics. Have no doubts about it, if Christian Theocracy came to this country, "Christians" would make sure that blood flowed in the streets. Look no further than the wars of the Reformation. The passage of time does not change human nature. 400 years ago or five minutes ago, fanaticism is fanaticism. You are using Islam as a straw man for fanaticism.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:12 PM
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16. Do you not think if given the opportunity, that anyone of our "Christian"
fanatics would gladly kill in the name of God?

Oh' Wait let me think for a nanosecond. No. Not even remotely possible

Building a argument that thousands of "Christian" fanatics will kill in the name of Christ based on one guy (Eric Rudolph) is a pretty specious argument to make at best.

The same compassion can be made about the Unibomber and ultra liberals and environmentalist.

You imagine that this country is filled with thousands of "Christian" fanatics that would have blood flow in the streets is preposterous.

"The same secular government that is under attack by our homegrown religious fanatics." O.K. if you say so. :crazy:

I don't know what the hell you are reading, but check your premise.
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:41 PM
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18. I don't know where the hell you've been for the last 6 years,
but you should read friggin' newspaper. I am NOT attacking Christians. I am attacking Christian FANATICS. YOU are attacking Islam by calling every Muslim a fundamentalist radical. Nice specious premise.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 03:31 PM
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20. 10 % of the Muslim population is calling
every Muslim a fundamentalist radical is what I wrote. Your math or critical thinking skills need some brushing up.

Again, I ask you to explain just how you can compare what the Muslim FANATICS are doing today as opposed to what the Christian FANATICS have done 400 years ago?

As far as I can tell, there are no active Christian groups who's main objective is to overthrow any governments or declare a theocracy though the use of terror tactics

You made the comparison. Defend your position.


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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:11 PM
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15. Ahem... Haditha? Abu Gharaib? the entire f'in war?
If you think that "Xianity" is not being used to justify horrendous attrocities on people in this day and age, I don't know where the hell you have been!
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:19 PM
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17. I was not aware the atrocities at Abu Gharaib were
done for religious reasons. Forced christian conversions? Islamic persecution?

Care to inform me?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:54 PM
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19. I suppose you haven't been
aware of the strong pro-war stance of the Xian Right the past six years, nor their literal take over of the Air Force Academy and influence within the other forces. I suppose you missed Bush's original justification for the war as a "Crusade," an "error" I am not at all sure was not intentional.

Wake up. I happen to be proud of being Christian, but dismally ashamed of what is being done to Christianity for political justifications. And, I certainly do NOT believe that we have come so far as to proclaim the evils done in the name of Christianity are a distant past. For God's sakes, just look what we did to our own Native Americans--hardly four hundred years ago, as you say.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 03:39 PM
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21. The christian right does indeed have a pro war stance
I have yet to see any christian group come out in support of torture or committing atrocities in prisoner of war camps?

That was your point, was it not?

I have a close friend who is a full bird Colonel in the Air Force, he would find your comment on the Xian Right take over of the Air Force Academy quite funny. He would call that ignorant paranoid nonsense, but I won't, but Colonels tend to speak their mind.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 04:01 PM
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22. Where have you been the past two years-- have you not followed
the Air Force Academy Scandals in CO SPrings and the Xian takeover? Try Google. It is your friend.

As for the war mongering Xian RW. A war for oil and imperialism--justified by lies--and that results in countless hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian lives. Well, that's war attrocity in my book. Perhaps your translation of Sermon on the Mount was quite different than mine.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 09:57 PM
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23. You are trying to make a connection ................I don't see it.
Edited on Sat May-27-06 10:01 PM by Poppyseedman
If you think that "Xianity" is not being used to justify horrendous atrocities on people in this day and age, I don't know where the hell you have been!


Just where and how is "Xianity" is being used to justify horrendous atrocities???

I have never heard any administration, military or state dept representative say the Christian religion was a reason for this war.

I'm not trying to be contrary, but if this war is all about "oil and imperialism--justified by lies", just how does the religious RW have anything to do with that besides supporting a president?

Do you believe that if the religious RW was against this war, that would change anything? If you do, you are kidding yourself.

As for the Air Force Academy scandals, I am well aware of them. They were hardly a takeover or coup.



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