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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 09:56 PM Original message |
I'm sick of defending abortion. Its time to attack. |
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mazzarro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. Totally true |
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kiraboo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think we're going to have a hard time framing the issue |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. "fetus is a human being" |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
42. What difference would it make if the fetus was a person |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. The Right Wing is all about demanding human sacrifices |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Damn good points! The solution: |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
41. It doesn't matter if it's a person or not. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. Banning abortions sets all kind of bad precedents |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Sounds like a whole new slew of rapists rights. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. THAT is the Winning Frame! |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
43. Rape is going to be our defense? |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 03:02 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. What would you prefer? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 01:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
52. CHOICE is the winning frame. MOST AMERICANS SUPPORT IT. |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. It ws tried with Reagan, it failed |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. What do you think of my point above? |
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Bjornsdotter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. Choice |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Yes, I'd not thought of this one: |
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Bjornsdotter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Exactly! |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I agree, I think we should look at choice as absolute |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I think it's garbage. You have used all of their words. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. You think the absolute right of a woman to choose is garbage? |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I do NOT. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I agree. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
44. You need to be more specific. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
15. Here's the attack: If "pro-life" groups were really interested in reducing |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Its still a weak point |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
39. Yeah, well, Kerry bumbled over the Iraq war, too. |
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OctOct1 (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
16. My wild attacks |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I'm right here |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. The traditional role of Father has always been financial |
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bumblebee1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 12:47 AM Response to Reply #16 |
36. I can add a few more questions |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
38. Your avoidance mocks me... N/T |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
47. To play the devil's advocate for a moment. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
21. Frame it this way: |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
22. You are, of course, absolutely right lvx35. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Good question! I was just thinking about that. |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. like Jane Goodall with the Chimpanzees |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
24. If you have time go to |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Thanks for the link nt |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
25. Here's your attack... Pro Lifers' dirty little secret... |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Oh sweet! |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. True |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
29. If you give them the right to control reproduction, then they can make |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-14-06 11:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. That's a good point too |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
35. "at issue is the individual right to privacy and dignity for women" |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
37. As I recall |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
40. If you don't want an abortion, don't have one, it's that simple. |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
45. There is nothing to defend about abortion. It's a safe, simple & effective |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
46. Yes, the language has to be ratched up...,let's start describing |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
48. it's about hatred for women. at the heart of each and every anti-choice |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
49. The best defense is an analogy that takes the pro-lifer's premises |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
51. This is a tricky one. |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
53. start picketing and protesting outside the rw wing churches. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-15-06 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
54. I'd like to attack them with the 90+ thousand NYC abortions last yr. |
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