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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:47 AM
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"An Inconvenient Truth" C02 Calculator
Pretty cool--calculates your approximate carbon dioxide production per year.

http://www.climatecrisis.net/takeaction/carboncalculator/

Mine is about 7700 lbs, or half the national average. Not bad, could be better.
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:53 AM
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1. 4100, because I live in the city and don't have a car right now.
nt
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:53 AM
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2. It's rigged! I got 700
Just kidding!.. but I know we use more energy than that. No car, Elec. power only, for a family of 3 (me and 2 boys). If I add their dad, who drives for work, it goes way up.

I ride the bus every few days, but it doesn't ask about that. :shrug:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 01:56 AM
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3. Good for you
:yourock:

I was feeling good, and now I'm miserable...all because of you! ;)
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:03 AM
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5. I'm lucky, I live in OR
almost half of our power is Hydro.

I think the test requires more questions to be accurate, but yea, I'm feeling good right now. :)

Don't be sad, you're better that average (and I knew that about you even before you took the test. :hug: )
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:01 AM
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4. a lot because i travel
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 02:06 AM by pitohui
i'm not going to say how much and it's not going to change, i'm not going to give up my one life so 10 more chinese people can have an automobile, nothing i do is going to change anything

it's like when bill clinton went to all that effort to balance the budget

he should have just taken the money and given it to the poor people and to fixing the infrastructure

all he did was "conserve" the money so the republicans could steal it

it's the law of the commons, conservation is a waste of time when you're not conserving anything, you're just giving the resource to someone else who IS willing to exploit it

i don't resent the rising countries like china or india, i accept that they will all want cars to drive even as i have, but i also recognize that when 2 billion chinese and indians are all driving their cars, the little bit of CO2 put into the air by the usa will seem a pleasant joke

the inconvenient truth is that we're screwed unless we develop some new technology and quickly to save our atmosphere

okay, sorry, end of depressing rant for the day



switching to flourescent lightbulbs is masturbation, yes, i have done it, but it's still masturbation, not that there's anything wrong w. masturbation but as a way to save the world it ain't


p.s. i don't mean to crap on clinton, either, he was trying to do the right thing, the honest thing w. balancing the budget, i am just pointing out that some actions are pointless because of the tragedy of the commons effect
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:20 AM
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9. Dick? Dick Cheney? Is that you?
Welcome to DU.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:22 AM
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10. heh i travel more than dick cheney, i guarantee, he stays in a hole
i promise you that the jets would put out just as much exhaust as if i stayed at home, so i don't agree w. this kind of test

but i don't see any positive good that would come of convincing you to be as dark about the future as me, so i'm not going to argue w. you

do your best, it's all any of us can do really
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:32 AM
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12. Jets would not put out as much exhaust if you - or I - stayed home.
I fly 12 "medium", 3 "long" and 1 very long flights per year, and this has been my annual pattern for the past 5 years. I used to rationalize like you do that the planes would be flying whether I was on board or not. I can remember off-peak time flights with maybe only 1/3 of the seats filled. And it was extremely rare that a flight had no empty seats. However, particularly in the last year, the flights I'm on have every seat filled - financially strapped airlines have reduced the number of flights so that the planes are no longer flying with empty seats. This indicates to me that the airlines are very carefully, based on the flying history of frequent flyers like you and me, calculating what the demand will be. Granted, if only one person stayed off planes, the impact would not be noticeable. But if even 1, 5 or 10 percent of fliers stayed off the planes, I think the number of flights would also be reduced 1, 5 or 10%. Although there are circumstances when one HAS to physically be somewhere, I think many business meetings & sales calls could be handled by teleconferencing. As to vacation travel, that is a major factor. I would be interested in seeing the stats/numbers comparing per mile emission of CO2 of cars vs. planes. What's the difference if a family of four drives from Chicago to Orlando (Disneyworld), vs. flying?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:50 AM
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15. See the movie
and see how Chinese emissions requirements are FAR more stringent than ours (US cars can't even be sold there).

See how positive action taken during the Clinton era saved the ozone layer (yes, saved it).

What will destroy the planet is not CO2 but the attitude "nothing i do is going to change anything".
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:09 AM
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6. 5100
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 02:09 AM by sakabatou
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:09 AM
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7. Neat! But I got a 14400.
I guess because I live alone in a 35 year old 3 Bedroom house which still has a lot of air leaks.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 02:11 AM
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8. air leaks are good
tight office and tight house syndrome sicken and kill

life is balance
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 05:46 AM
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11. 800
I have walked everywhere for some time now, but to go home I must fly.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 06:56 AM
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13. 18,000 and I hardly drive at all. It must be the COAL AL Power burns
Edited on Mon Jun-19-06 06:57 AM by Jeffersons Ghost
damn that mege-corp to hell, I drive very little, reuse plastic products in ways that would amaze you and NEVER throw away illuminum but still get a high number. Maybe next year I'll heat and cool my home by burning US currency that will be worthless by then.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:46 AM
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14. Interesting -- I think you're right
Plugging the same numbers in for AL and CA, I get less than half the CO2 emissions for CA.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 11:38 PM
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19. Plug in your numbers, but change it to Georgia (GA) and see what you get.
I think all my power comes from a Coal burning plant too, but my Electric Co-op will allow me to pay extra to get 10% of my Electricity from the Methane coming out of the county landfills garbage mountain.

It would buy me -1100 points. :crazy:
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:55 AM
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16. 2,000 for me.
I live in NYC and don't drive.

:-)
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:00 AM
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17. There's nothing about public transportation in there
Possibly insignificant compared to other factors? :shrug:
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:11 AM
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18. I am sure that public transportation would be a factor.
Still an interesting model, nonetheless.
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