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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 10:14 PM Original message |
Bush FDA Secretly allows experimenting -- without your consent !! |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. I wonder if you could put a clause in your medical power of attorney |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 10:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Why not? |
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Rainscents (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. I also heard this shit has HIV tented virus too, since they use real blood |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. Experimenting on the unwilling and unknowing massess..... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Tuskegee Syphilis Study ring any bells?? |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Aids Study on foster kids in NY.. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 12:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Holy crap!!! |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
67. Yes..this is one of many... |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. From the Northfield link: |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I think |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Sick fuckers they are.. |
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chicagomd (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 08:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
42. Quick off topic point... |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Welcome to DU chicagomd! |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #42 |
54. Propulsid was another "dangerous" drug, beneficial for infants |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Cool but |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
63. Viagra has some scary side effects |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
69. deleted - responded to wrong post. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. This fake blood has killed people |
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bluedeminredstate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. There's my city right there on the list! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Is your hospital on the list? |
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bluedeminredstate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. No. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Maryland |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Can you donate and store your own blood ahead of time? |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I will ..KICK |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Good!! |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I will if I don't |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No... I mean |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I will talk to my |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 01:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. It's Called Autologous Donation |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 01:49 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Thanks for the info |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 01:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Yes, Sort Of - If They Need More than Has Been Stored |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 02:14 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Thanks for clarifying and the needed info! |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
56. Consider storing naive lympocytes |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. How and where can one do that? |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-09-06 03:08 AM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Ask your local blood bank. If they don't do it, a specialty lab |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
9. Why am I not surprised to see Duke on that list......... |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. Fuckers.. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. Get this on the greatest |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-07-06 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
24. This is pretty scary. K&R |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
25. I swear the blood in my body just rushed out of my face. This is |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
27. Must read article: BAD BLOOD |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 01:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. argh!!!! |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 01:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. The Death camps |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 01:43 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I read it.. |
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Rainscents (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 01:52 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I agree... |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
62. "I am Sooo PISSED OFF." Glad you explained that...I hadn't noticed. |
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GuvWurld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
33. We Do Not Consent |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 02:15 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Thank you for the link |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 05:37 AM Response to Original message |
38. I HATE the Pharma Giants! They are pure evil! |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
39. Have just written to Northfield |
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niallmac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
40. Hard to believe but I guess it's true. |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
41. Thanks! I just sent them the following e-mail: |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. They're still not upfront about it |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
65. And then wear the bracelet at all times. Use it to start conversations |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
44. Well there is this to remember... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Patients who object to participation |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. I think they can still test you even if blood is available at the hospital |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. You got it! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
45. Why don't they just ask? I would be inclined to say 'yes, I will help!' |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Maybe A.C* could volunteer? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
46. Northfield Responds to ABC 20/20 segment |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
48. Janet Napalitano probably stopped them! Yeah Janet! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
49. Potential Battlefield Use - Iraq & Afghanistan |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
51. They're in Phase III now! - 'treatment is given to large groups of people' |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
52. My husband didn't know of it, and he's an internist. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Is he appalled? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. He was appalled. He wasn't shocked, though. |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. We've got 'Do Not Call'; do we need a 'DO NOT EXPERIMENT' registry? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 05:01 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Agreed! |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
68. Theres been speculation the Veterans Hospitals have been using Vets too |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-09-06 03:12 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Last I knew, the military doesn't have to get Informed Consent for |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-08-06 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
70. FDA? what about the freakin doctors. |
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mighty (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-09-06 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
73. Consent first |
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