Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

U.S. Supreme Court under fascism.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 03:30 AM
Original message
U.S. Supreme Court under fascism.
"On November 28, 2005, a basketball-sized chunk of marble weighing approximately 172 lbs. fell four stories from the façade onto the steps of the Court; it had previously been part of the parapet above the word UNDER (as in, "Equal justice UNDER law", engraved on the court's façade ), and immediately above the figure of a Roman centurion carrying a fasces. The falling piece is not believed to be related to restoration work currently underway in the building."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Supreme_Court_building
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 03:35 AM
Response to Original message
1. I've never been a great one for omens, but...
...this one is too close to the bone to ignore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 03:37 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Yes, I'm sure many Romans would have seen it the same way
Of course, we're not Rome.........are we?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 03:40 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. Not Rome, more like the Holy Roman Empire.
Not Holy, not Roman, and not even a proper Empire. Just a greedy bunch of wannabes without the brains to be emperors.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 04:21 AM
Response to Original message
4. omen
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 06:32 AM
Response to Original message
5. There are lots of fasces and fascists in Washington today


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 06:49 AM
Response to Original message
6. Possibly
Although you have to remember that fascism didn't mean the same thing to teh Romans that it does to us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. As crazy as the Christian fundies are, I don't think anyone can
convince them that * is a god, like the Romans were told the emperor was.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. I think they see him as more like a "hero" like Perseus.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 07:56 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. The Romans didn't believe it either
The plebs generally didn't believe their emperor was a god but he was powerful enough to make it difficult to tell the difference so it was easier not to protest the association. Life was quite difficult enough for a pleb without bringing the guard down on you and so long as the taxes kept rolling in, no-one really cared anyway.

Even the patrician class didn't believe it much of the time. Many of them believed in the gods not in the same way a Christian would but as symbols or universal forces abstract from their daily lives. Besides, being teh son of a god wouldn't have meant as much to them as it would to us. To a Roman, life was about proving yourself and the worst fate that could befall a politically-minded Roman was failing to equal the achievments of his father. So while the Julii family claimed descent from the goddess Venus (although that was more a family legend than a serious boast), what had they done lately? The Brutii could claim descent from Romulus, the (probably mythical) founder of Rome but what had they done lately?

Besides, not many of the emperors actually proclaimed that they were gods. They implied it and it was known that they were supposed to be but not many went out of their way to make the point.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:14 AM
Response to Original message
7. I didn't know that - apparently the powers that be were sending...........
.....us a message that the neocons still haven't listened to. This is definitely an omen.:wow:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 10:19 AM
Response to Original message
8. Portico frieze photo


Next week is my last week working downtown in DC. I'm going to try to snap a new photo of the frieze during lunchtime and compare it to this photo.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Great shot. Thanks!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov 03rd 2024, 07:22 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC