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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:49 AM
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Sibel Edmonds: "Whistleblowers Witch Hunt Begins"
(from sibel)

NSA WHISTLEBLOWER IS SUBPOENAED TO TESTIFY BEFORE FEDERAL GRAND JURY

Government Begins its Witch Hunt Targeting Whistleblowers

On Wednesday, July 26, Russell Tice, former National Security Agency (NSA) intelligence analyst and a member of National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC), was approached outside his home by two FBI agents who served him with a subpoena to testify in front of a federal grand jury. NSWBC has obtained a copy of the subpoena issued for Mr. Tice's testimony and is releasing it to the public for the first time. The subpoena directs Mr. Tice to appear before the jury on August 2, 2006 at 1:00 p.m. in the Eastern District of Virginia. Mr. Tice will be asked to testify and answer questions concerning possible violations of federal criminal law." (pdf subpoena here http://www.nswbc.org/Reports%20-%20Documents/RussSubpoena.pdf).


In response to the subpoena, Mr. Tice issued the following statement: "This latest action by the government is designed only for one purpose: to ensure that people who witness criminal action being committed by the government are intimidated into remaining silent."? He continued: "To this date I have pursued all the appropriate channels to report unlawful and unconstitutional acts conducted while I served as an intelligence officer with the NSA and DIA. It was with my oath as a US intelligence officer to protect and preserve the U.S. Constitution weighing heavy on my mind that I reported acts that I know to be unlawful and unconstitutional. The freedom of the American people cannot be protected when our constitutional liberties are ignored and our nation has decayed into a police state."?

On December 22, 2005, the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition made public a request by Tice to report to Congress probable unlawful and unconstitutional acts by the government while he was an intelligence officer with NSA and DIA. In a press release, NSWBC urged the congress to hold hearings and let Mr. Tice testify. Mr. Tice, a responsible veteran intelligence officer, tried to use the so-called appropriate channels, including the United States Congress, to responsibly and lawfully disclose government wrongdoing. (release here http://nswbc.org/Press%20Releases/NSA-RussTice.htm).

"What we are seeing here is a government desperate to cover up its criminal and unconstitutional conduct. They now are going beyond the usual retaliation against whistleblowers who courageously come forward to report cases of government fraud, waste, abuse, and in some cases such as this one, criminal actions. Their old tactics of intimidation, gag orders, and firing, have not stopped an unprecedented number of whistleblowers from coming forward and doing the right thing. Desperate to prevent the public's right to know, they now are getting engaged in a witch hunt targeting these patriotic truth tellers." stated Sibel Edmonds, the Director of National Security Whistleblowers Coalition.

In addition, the timing of the subpoena appears to be more than a little suspect. On July 25, 2006, Judge Matthew Kennelly upheld the government's assertion of the state secrets privilege in Terkel v. AT&T. The crucial issue in the case was whether or not the government's program of surveillance had been publicly acknowledged, and Kennelly wrote "the focus should be on information that bears persuasive indication of reliability." If there were reliable public reports of the program then the fact of the program's existence could not be a state secret. Kennelly found that there were no reliable sources of public information about the contested program's existence sufficient to thwart the government's need for secrecy. In other words, the existence of the program had not been conclusively established, and the government therefore had a right to prevent probing into the matter. This stops a case that represented a serious threat to the Bush administration.

Professor William Weaver, NSWBC Senior Advisor, stated: "Russ Tice is the only publicly identified NSA employee connected to the New York Times in its December 2005 story publicizing warrantless Bush-ordered surveillance. Tice is also publicly perceived as someone who could authoritatively establish the existence of the program at issue in Terkel; Tice could remedy the defect in the plaintiff's case cited by Kennelly that allowed the government's assertion of the state secrets privilege to be successful. Later, on the same day Kennelly's opinion was filed, the Department of Justice sent out Tice's subpoena. The date on the subpoena is July 20th, before Kennelly's decision was filed, but the issue in the Terkel case was so pregnant that it would be easy for the government to anticipate the ruling and only issue the subpoena to Tice if necessary. It has now become necessary, and the government seems to be moving to put pressure on Tice not to reveal information that would confirm the electronic surveillance program at issue in Terkel by threatening him with investigation and possible indictment."

(xposted http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2006/07/government-whistleblowers-witch-hunt.html)
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:08 AM
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1. defense fund?
somebody over at dkos just asked if there is a defense fund for Russ Tice. Would you guys contribute?
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randyconspiracybuff Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:17 AM
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4. Definitely
We must start standing with whistleblowers. If people really get motivated and support these truthtellers, then that will encourage more whistleblowers to come forward and reveal what they know.

Russ Tice should know he has a lot of support, political and financial.
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randyconspiracybuff Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:19 AM
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6. Russ Tice Is Not Yet A Target
So he may not need a lawyer at this stage. Still, I think it's good to know how much support he might have out there. How about "pre-pledge" campaign?
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StateSecrets Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:22 AM
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7. Status: Unknown
At this stage we don't know whether he is a 'target' of an investigation or only a 'witness.'

He is not even allowed to have an attorney with him during the testimony. I heard that's the general rule: no attorneys allowed during the fed. grand jury testimonies.

We'll definitely help him raise money for def. once/if he becomes a target; defendant.

Thank you for all your support.

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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:07 AM
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16. rawstory
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StateSecrets Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:11 AM
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2. The Chilling Effect
Thank you for posting this Lukery!

This is a desperate government, taking desperate measures. What they want to do: taking away the public's right to know. They have gotten the spineless congress under control; now it is the media and its sources.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:16 AM
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3. russ
we've got his back
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randyconspiracybuff Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:10 AM
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17. Yes, A Chilling Effect
My guess is that this came down from the political level- that is Alberto Gonzalez. It seems to me, Justice is simply trying to harass Tice, knowing that they probably don't have a case against him even to bring up charges.

I think Russ is a tough character and won't be intimidated. But the message is really meant for others in the NSA and other agencies. Put your head down, put your blinders on and just pretend it isn't happening, otherwise you'll have to retain a lawyer and incur a mountain of legal expenses.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:47 PM
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21. They (whistleblowers) have to prevail.
Just once, the good have to win one, so we can believe that we can make a difference.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:19 AM
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5. and another kick for truth
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:25 AM
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8. is this the final nail?
thanks for keeping on top of this

people don't realize how important the packing of all levels of federal courts has become
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:32 AM
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9. Kick n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:37 AM
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10. Mr Tice called the US a police state. BRAVO!
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:58 AM
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13. sibel interview
btw - i wrote about the personal sacrifice that Russ Tice went through in a recent interview with sibel
http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2006/07/whistleblowers-dirty-dozen-interwiew.html
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StateSecrets Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:41 AM
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11. Our Message
All Government Employees, please remember the following:


Your higher loyalty is to the Constitution and the rule of law;

Information may never be classified as secret merely because it is embarrassing or incriminating, or to cover up criminal and unlawful conduct;

There is no agreement that public servants may sign that will require them lie to the Congress or courts;

The United States’ Code of Ethics for Government Service explains carefully and clearly in an assured voice that "Any person in government service should put loyalty to the highest moral principles and to the Country above loyalty to persons, party, or Government department."

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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:51 AM
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12. 1%
all we need is 1% of govt employees to make a difference

i tip my hat (all the way from australia) to sibel and russ and all the other whistleblowers.
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StateSecrets Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:59 AM
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14. And Where is Accountability??!!!!
"Accountability, in the end, always comes down to the public’s right to know, the right to have the most basic knowledge about what its servants are doing with its money and its authority."
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:08 AM
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15. something sibel wrote
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 09:17 AM by lukery

NSWBC Call to Patriotic Duty

By Sibel Edmonds & William Weaver

Without whistleblowers the public would never know of the many abuses of constitutional rights by the government. Whistleblowers, Truth Tellers, are responsible for the disclosure that President George W. Bush ordered unconstitutional surveillance of American citizens. These constitutional lifeguards take their patriotic oaths to heart and soul: Rather than complying with classification and secrecy orders designed to protect officials engaging in criminal conduct, whistleblowers chose to risk their livelihoods and the wrath of their agencies to get the truth out. But will they be listened to by those who are charged with accountability?

the rest here http://nswbc.org/Press%20Releases/PR-TiceSubpoena-July28-06.htm
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:12 AM
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18. amy goodman is on the story
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/07/28/1440238

"NSA Whistleblower Alleges Intimidation Following Subpoena
In other news, National Security Agency whistleblower Russell Tice has been subpoenaed to testify before a federal grand jury. According to the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition two FBI agents served Tice the subpoena outside his house on Wednesday.?Tice was one of the sources for the New York Times article that exposed the government’s secret domestic surveillance programs. He also spoke out about the domestic wiretapping in a series of televised interviews, including on Democracy Now. ?Tice is now accusing the government of trying to silence him. After being served the subpoena, he said “This latest action by the government is designed only for one purpose: to ensure that people who witness criminal action being committed by the government are intimidated into remaining silent.”"
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 07:43 PM
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19. bradblog
bradblog interviewed Sibel about Tice et altoday.
"So the people we call "whistleblowers" shouldn't be anything special. This is what all government employees should be doing. And if they did, we wouldn't call them whistleblowers. We wouldn't have a name for them. We'd have a name for the other people in government instead."

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3141
lol
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 08:09 PM
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20. k&r
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