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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:07 PM
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A heavily fortified building with bulletproof windows and security cameras
Edited on Sat Jul-29-06 08:08 PM by survivor999
WTF? Are all Jewish centers like this? What does it mean?

Suspect ticketed before Jewish center shootings

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Once he arrived at the Jewish center -- a heavily fortified building with bulletproof windows and security cameras -- Haq hid behind a plant outside one of the center's locked doors. When a young girl approached, he grabbed her and forced her to take him inside, Kerlikowske said.
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/29/seattle.shooting/index.html
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:10 PM
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1. here is a link about it.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:28 PM
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2. It means that the world hates Jews and many people kill them
Visit The Southern Poverty Law Center at http://www.SPLCenter.org for enlightenment.

This is why even when we disagree with Israel's actions, many Jews still feel very protective of the only country where they can live without fear of their own government rounding them up into camps. It's also the only country in the mid-east where everyone-- white, black, Mulslim, Jew, Arab, Gay or Straight is allowed to live in freedom.

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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:32 PM
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3. Ok, but the world hates women and many men kill them
too... And yet, no fortified buildings for women... Whatever...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:34 PM
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4. That's a specious argument. n/t
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:37 PM
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6. Not for women who are killed.
They've been killed and abused by patriarchal societies all over the world for much longer than Jewish people have.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:04 PM
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14. Your argument is ridiculous. And I'm a woman.
Women comprise 51% of the world's population. They cannot be a nation. There are only 14.5 million Jews left in the world after the holocaust. I'm against patriarchy, but you can't fight patriarchy through lesbian separatism. A few people tried it in the 70s and got nowhere. Women need to fight for themselves where they are born and that's the way it's always going to be. The enemy will always be within your borders.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:07 PM
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16. I think the fortifications are ridiculous
and a symptom of paranoia.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:07 PM
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17. Yeah, right, the fortifications caused the attack.
And I bet you don't lock your doors. Please, honor us with more of your wisdom and insight.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:34 PM
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5. Abortion clinics are often fortified. n/t
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:04 PM
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13. So, seriously
are you saying that the anti-Jewish nuts are as bad as the anti-abortion nuts in this country? I'm surrounded by Jewish people (not the religious types), and they don't live in a bunker.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:38 PM
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:42 PM
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8. Allahu Akbar?
What does that mean?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:44 PM
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:53 PM
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10. Well, it turns out to be a pretty fucking smart move on their part,
doesn't it? When you know there are assholes out there who want to kill you?

Why do you have a problem with it?

Redstone
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:59 PM
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11. Are there any reliable statistics
On Jewish murders in the US? I mean, murders due to documented anti-semitism.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:14 PM
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19. You're getting REALLY tiresome.
Redstone
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:02 PM
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12. I don't have a problem with it
But I think that fortification incites more than it deters violence.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:06 PM
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15. Nice blaming the victim tactic there.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 11:13 PM
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18. OK, so does it incite violence for a cop to wear a bulletproof vest?
Ah, I gues you've never had anyone want to kill you just because they don't like your religion. Neither have I. But THEY have.

So it's not up to US to tell them what to do, is it?

Redstone
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