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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:55 AM
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I'll be on Randi Rhodes show today to talk about 9/11
I just found out that Randi Rhodes wants me to be a guest on her Air America show today to talk about these latest 9/11 developments, mostly the Vanity Fair article about the military response on 9/11. The time is approximately 5:30 Eastern time and 2:30 Pacific time. I hope you'll listen in. If you have any thoughts on what I should say, please let me know.

Here's a post I made on another thread to give a sample of the kind of stuff I'm likely to discuss:

As the author of the 9/11 Timeline, I find this article very interesting as it probably contains new tidbits of truth, but it obviously is still mostly filled with spin to protect the guilty.

The author very carefully selects some facts and ignores others in an attempt to preserve the 9/11 Commission's account as much as possible. But even forgetting the conflicting facts not mentioned in the article, the article itself is self-contradictory. For instance, it says:

But by the time NEADS gets the report of a bomb on United 93, everyone on board is already dead. Following the passengers' counterattack, the plane crashed in a field in Pennsylvania at 10:03 a.m., 4 minutes before Cleveland Center notified NEADS, and a full 35 minutes after a Cleveland Center controller, a veteran named John Werth, first suspected something was wrong with the flight. At 9:28, Werth actually heard the guttural sounds of the cockpit struggle over the radio as the hijackers attacked the pilots.

Werth's suspicions about United 93 were passed quickly up the F.A.A.'s chain of command, so how is it that no one from the agency alerted NEADS for more than half an hour?

A former senior executive at the F.A.A., speaking to me on the condition that I not identify him by name, tried to explain. "Our whole procedures prior to 9/11 were that you turned everything over to the F.B.I.," he said, reiterating that hijackers had never actually flown airplanes; it was expected that they'd land and make demands. "There were absolutely no shootdown protocols at all. The F.A.A. had nothing to do with whether they were going to shoot anybody down. We had no protocols or rules of engagement."

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Yet earlier in the article it mentions how Boston flight control directly and immediately contacted NEADS without going through the FAA chain of command. In fact, it's not mentioned here, but Boston even directly called up military bases. So why couldn't Cleveland flight control do the same?! It also says earlier in the article that it was standard procedure to send up fighters at the first reasonable sign of trouble and investigate (in fact, there's a series of steps the fighter is supposed to take, for instance getting close enough to see into the cockpit of the hijacked plane to see if it's hijacked). But the quote from the FAA official above confuses the issue of sending up a fighter to investigate vs. permission to shoot down the hijacked plane. Just because you may not have permission to shoot down the plane yet is no reason to keep fighters on the ground! In fact, that's a violation of very clear protocols.

NORAD lied and lied, with something like five different accounts of what happened that day already, yet now we're supposed to believe they suddenly come clean with the release of these tapes? This is just one more level of spin to further confuse and hide the truth. There are so many other lies and half-truths in this article that I can't even begin to list them.

But there are some interesting tidbits of probable truth. For instance, the revelation that there was a war game of a hijacked plane scheduled an hour later - an important fact the 9/11 Commission never bothered to mention. Mike Ruppert and others have speculated that there were injects of false radar data that day as part of the wargame, and sure enough, we find out that as late as 9:04, one of the flight controllers says: "I think this is a damn input, to be honest." At the very least, this shows a lot of confusion relating to the war game, another thing denied by the 9/11 Commission and all official accounts.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:59 AM
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1. excellent
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:40 PM
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58. White Rose Society has the mp3 up from today's show already, link here
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 09:40 PM by Wonk
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:09 PM
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66. thanks.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:00 PM
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2. Great!
Kicked and recomended!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:02 PM
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3. K&R. I'm really looking forward to your interview.
:kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:02 PM
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4. Break a lip, Paul. I agree: they release information to
obfuscate.
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 01:06 PM
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19. Break a lip?
I thought it was break a leg! :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 01:13 PM
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21. If you talk for a living, it's "break a lip".
:)
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:03 PM
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5. I'll be listening!!
Go get em!
:woohoo:
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:03 PM
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6. Awesome. I listen to Randi every day
I look forward to hearing this discussion. WTG. :toast:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:03 PM
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7. Great! wonderful opportunity for you.
You will be a killer spokesperson too! I can't wait to hear you!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:04 PM
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8. way to go!
I'll be tuned in.

:)
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:07 PM
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9. One point I rarely hear discussed: How hard would it be...
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 12:13 PM by Junkdrawer
for novice pilots to fly the incredibly accurate flight paths necessary to hit the twin towers (2 for 2) and especially the incredibly difficult flight path needed to hit the Pentagon?

I find it incredible that they were able to navigate within 50 miles of their targets much less hit windows of hundreds of feet.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:11 PM
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10. That was always suspicious to me too
My ex's cousin was a fighter pilot in the military who became a commercial airline pilot when his service ended. We talked about it once at a party. He said the difference between military jets and airliners was amazing. He spent months in the simulator crashing because of the difficulty of steering something so huge and he was already an accomplished pilot.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:57 PM
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18. That's a perfect example. The most ludicrous, unlikely "facts"
(rookie "pilots" not only flew jumbo jets, but did so with amazing skill and accuracy) have been accepted without question. The media ignores it, and the "investigation" doesn't even question it.

Have we all become this stupid? Otherwise, there's something rotten in Denmark.
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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:57 PM
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62. the pentagon path was a fish hook path, to boot.
why didn't they hit it straight on from where they were coming?

could it be the accounting office was at the barb's end?
remember that the day before Rumsfeld announced the missing trillion dollars at the pentagon.

and of course, after 911, the records, oh sorry, we lost so much personnell, our records are in shambles....

nah.
foolish!
silly

sure it is.
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:25 AM
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68. It was a descending 270 degree turn to the right
I used to be a C-141 (large 4 engine jet transport) navigator in the Air Force and Reserves, and we flew a lot of airdrop missions which involved some serious yanking and banking at low altitudes (about 300 feet, although we did have an airplane land missing the outermost five feet of its left wing once). Here's what hits me about the description of the Pentagon airplane's final path:

(1) Hitting a point on the side of the Pentagon would be the same as making a pinpoint landing on a runway. Our pilots were highly trained and experienced, but even under the best conditions touchdown could occur anywhere in a 500 foot area. And that's after a straight-in, stable descent at a constant airspeed in landing configuration (flaps and gear down).

(2) Large airplanes are flown from the left seat, although the copilot can also control the aircraft from his side. MS Flight Simulator only lets you practice from the left seat, so that's the most likely the side the hijacker chose. Even if he made a level turn it would be difficult from the right seat to make a 270 degree right turn that would roll out right on target. The pilot would constantly have to vary the angle of bank and pitch, as well as the power.

(3) There's something called Pilot Induced Oscillation (PIO) in which a pilot attempts to level the wings and overcompensates, resulting in an even greater bank the opposite direction because of the size and weight of the wings. The pilot then overcompensates the opposite way, and then the other way, and now you're rapidly approaching a completely uncontrolled situation. I got to fly the C-141 simulator, and even with a commercial civilian pilots license with instrument and instructor ratings I still got into a serious PIO. It took several attempts to learn how to put in the small corrections that kept the wings level. I seriously doubt that someone who has never flown a large airplane would avoid getting into a PIO.

Of course, it could have been that he was just a natural pilot with no flying experience...
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:24 PM
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11. Just bought your book online. I look forward to reading it.
I have tried getting through the 9/11 report, and simply had to put it down, there were so many obvious falsehoods in it and I wasn't aware that I'd purchased a fictional novel....
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:31 PM
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12. Where was Sec of Defense Rumsfeld
and Acting Chief of Staff General Myers while the attack was going down?

Both were AWOL until after the Pentagon was hit. The result was that US Defenses was like a ship at sea without a captain or a navigator. Makes it much more difficult for the rest of the crew to respond appropriately during an emergency.



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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:32 PM
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13. Yeah! I will listen. PleasTell us something more about how the FAA regs.
were modified in June/July? of 2001, to confuse the chain of command for scrambling aircraft, and that the changes, as I understood "The New Pearl Harbor", were circular, i.e. they DIDN'T change what was supposed to be done, but only added un-necessary regulation to the regulations (by this anti-regulation administration BTW).
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:38 PM
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14. 5:30? arrgh
i will be underground commuting home at that point. *sigh*
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:55 PM
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17. Probably someone will archive the audio online. nt
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:47 PM
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15. Excellent! Kick nt
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 12:55 PM
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16. hell yes!
i will be listening as usual. Good luck!
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 01:09 PM
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20. Kicking because I've heard you on the radio before
NPR or Pacifica Radio :shrug:.

I'll be listening this time, too.

:thumbsup:
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 01:14 PM
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22. Thanks for your work. Interesting how top gov't officials weren't
flying commercial the weeks prior to 9/11. Did they know something we didn't? Also, having so many simulations in one day makes is might convenient for the terrorist.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 01:18 PM
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23. Thank you again for your tireless efforts.
Truth is the CON's most feared enemy.
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Shredr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:13 PM
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24. Awesome!
I'll be listening. Good luck.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:17 PM
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25. I'm listening to Randi right now.
Your book "Timeline" has become a kind of 9/11 Bible for me. Anything else out there is in addition to your book.

I will look forward to hearing you on Randi.
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:23 PM
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26. Thanks for all the support!
:)
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:25 PM
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27. Kick Kick Kick.
:kick:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:01 PM
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28. 'the match begins tomorrow'
(or something to that affect)

remember that intercepted message?

:kick:

dp

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 03:24 PM
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29. Listening to Randi now.
Looks like you will be on in about an hour.
I'll be listening. :)

K&R
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:00 PM
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30. I should be on soon
Kick
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:10 PM
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31. Does anyone have a link to the vanity fair article?
Thanks.
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:45 PM
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48. Here's the link
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:05 PM
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65. Thank you!
:hi:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:15 PM
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32. shes moving into the topic now...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:34 PM
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33. You go, Paul. A thousand thanks for all you do.
k and r
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:35 PM
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34. on now
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:37 PM
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35. Hey Paul, I'm listening!
Sounds good.

--IMM
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:37 PM
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36. i rarely listen to aar but im listening right now
glad for the notice so i could hear paul for the first time
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:38 PM
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37. I'm listening
:hi:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:43 PM
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38. Our Democratic leaders need to demand an independent
investigation to get at the truth. There is no doubt about it that there is much more to this than has been revealed.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:07 PM
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51. They have had almost 5 years to do so
Even though they are not in power, they should be out there every day saying something about 911 and the inconsistencies of the story. The fact that they are not gives me a moment of pause. If someone on the Democratic side of the aisle does say something, ie Cynthia McKinney, they are not backed up and shunned.

The day this happened, the first thing I said to all around was, "Either the gov't did this or heads are going to roll". Well since no heads rolled, in fact anyone who was involved, got promoted or got a medal, left me with no choice on what happened.

Paul, you did a great job on Randi's show and with your book. Can't wait to see the documentary.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:14 PM
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52. We know Congress won't put their necks out, but
how about state officials? What if the Democratic Governors got together and demanded an independent investigation, or are they too chicken as well?
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 04:53 PM
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39. kick for some truth getting out there
thanks paul for the heads up
it was a nice segment though it would be great to have more time

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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:01 PM
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40. Just do what you can
I trust your instincts.
Rhandi doesn't start here in MN until 6:00 on AAR. Does the show start earlier online?
:yourock:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:03 PM
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41. Please give us some details about your documentary. n/t
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:11 PM
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42. Documentary
Hi, it's not "my" documentary, however, I'm heavily featured in it and I hear my book and website will be mentioned in the advertisements. I've seen in and I think it's really excellent. There's a website about it here:

http://www.911pressfortruth.com/

It's more of a presentation of facts to get the viewer to think than something that pushes certain conclusions. The Jersey Girls and other 9/11 victim's relatives are heavily featured and the story is kind of seen through their eyes.

It'll get released in some limited art theaters in big cities in early September and also released on DVD at the same time. There also is a TV version to be shown on TV in some countries. We hope to have people sponsor house parties around the country to show it, too.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:15 PM
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43. Thank you Paul. I have the link bookmarked and will
look forward to seeing it.
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:23 PM
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44. Cool
Buy the DVD. ;) What did you think of the interview?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:25 PM
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45. The interview was awesome and so informative that it
got me googling for all the new information.
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:27 PM
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46. If you're interested in the war games, try this page
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:29 PM
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47. Yes, fantastic. I'm going to be really busy with all this.
Thanks! :-)
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:27 AM
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69. This is so cool
Scoop would really like to host a special screening in Wellywood! Who do I email?

You may need to do an update with this new info..... Norad's 6th version of the day that changed the world.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 05:58 PM
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49. She's amazing
Everyone needs to catch the archive of this show .
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:02 PM
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50. I heard it! and Paul Thompson did a great job of not sounding like
"Conspiracy Theorist" which is what we DO NEED to gain Legitimacy!

I worry Paul Thompson will "couch his opinions in Bush Speak" just so he "doesn't sound like a Conspiracy Theorist" ...but he did DU proud when he appeared on Randi Rhodes, today!

The hard thing for "Activists with "Truth Under Belts" is that they will have their research and opinions relegated to "Conpiracy" by the Bushies and MSM.

What I loved about Paul's appearance on Randi was that he "Held his Own!"

Anyone here who has participated IN or read Paul's book (that DU wouldn't give any Publicity to) has to know that HIS BOOK is a MUST HAVE and reflects the views of us DU'ers who were HERE in the TRENCHES from "Selection 2000" and Paul Thompson is a DU HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!

A HERO!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:34 PM
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53. Conspiracy is the norm with BushCo
It's looking more and more like the "tinfoilers" and "conspiracy theorists" on DU have been right from day one. So I tend to disagree with the main point of your post, to be labeled a "Conspiracy theorist" should be a badge of honor. IMO Paul sounds just like the majority of "conspiracy theorists" here on DU, that is he uses logic and reason to form his theory. The result might sound crazy to people who watch Faux, but that doesn't make him a nut or his theories any less correct.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:15 PM
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55. Some of us who are still here as "Oldie DU'ers" have to don our
tinfoilhats before we post, these days. But WE WERE THERE IN THE TRENCHES..cataloging the News from "supposedly legit sites" like WaPo and NYTimes and others. We spent day after day devoted to the "Mainstream News" and what folks did here ...way back then...is now "CATALOGED" and Paul Thompson and those of us working for Voter Verified Paper Ballots...worked day and night trying to NOT sound like "CONSPIRACY THEORISTS."

We all used Legitimate (if you can call the Media Whores..Legit) sites and though we read everything we could get our "eyes on" we still tried to stay to what "Mainstream" was into.

Paul Thompson was STERLING! EVERYTHING HE USED could be VERIFIED IN THE MSM.

And so doesn't it make sense that if the MSM got ALL ABOUT "9/11" Piecemeal from the Bushies with Propaganda thrown in...and the "9/11 Commission" (handpicked by the Bushies) have questions...then Paul's cataloging back then based on the Mainstream Media and stuff that DU helpers dug up on their own...would have HUGE CREDIBILITY?

I think Thompson's "Timeline" will stand through HISTORY as the REFERENCE for SCHOLARS looking back at WHAT WENT WRONG...HOW COULD THEY HAVE LIED.

It's my opinion,...but I've been on DU long enough to know that the CREAM rises to the TOP and Thompson's "TIME LINE" WILL STAND UP no matter what's thrown at it...through HISTORY. It's all there...cataloged with links.
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 06:45 PM
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54. Wow
Thanks for the high praise. :)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 07:17 PM
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56. You deserve it, Paul! A BIG TOAST AND THANKS TO YOU!
:toast: and I wish I could throw you a Party. Let's hope one day when we throw the Bushies out and get some good folks in there...we can do you justice for what you did and throw a REAL BASH!!!

til then...another :toast:
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ocean girl Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:36 PM
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57. I agree - he's certainly at the top of my hero list
I didn't hear the show but will download to my iPod tonight.

Congrats, Paul!
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:40 PM
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59. kick for the night crowd
just in case....
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:41 PM
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60. Just Paul's interview MP3
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ocean girl Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:54 PM
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61. Thanks so much for posting that link!
Makes it easy to listen on the way to work tomorrow.
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:07 PM
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63. Thanks
Great. Where did you get that? I thought it wouldn't be out for a couple of days on their site.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:20 PM
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64. "some guy on the internet"
People send in all kinds of stuff to 911blogger.com where I blog the most these days.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:50 AM
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70. This IV is fantastic Paul... fantastic....
I hope you get invited on some more shows...

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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:23 AM
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67. My Thoughts Entirely.... Paul Hi.... Where You At PM Me.
"NORAD lied and lied, with something like five different accounts of what happened that day already, yet now we're supposed to believe they suddenly come clean with the release of these tapes? This is just one more level of spin to further confuse and hide the truth. There are so many other lies and half-truths in this article that I can't even begin to list them."

Now I will read the rest of it. See if I can find some more of the discrepancies.....

Several questions. Is the audio being publicly released or only to this reporter? Surely they can't actually do that? Now we have this audio (assuming its real) lets also be having the multichannel recordings from Cheney's bunker? And every other bunker? And the audio from the FAA (the stuff allegedly destroyed by the FBI)?

This is an arrow at the center of the 911 lie fired by the head of the commission appointed to cover it up. Today methinks.... something HUGE JUST HAPPENED.

I will see if I can get Utunga on he is busy with the kids.

best regards
Alastair
Scoop
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 03:01 AM
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71. Congrats, Paul. Hi, Alastair.
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 03:09 AM by leveymg
I do believe the day we've seen coming is close at hand. This undermines the entire Bushite agenda from their War on the Constitution to their Wars in the Oil Patch. Glad to see you guys here on the same thread at DU!
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 05:04 AM
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72. morning kick!
k/r
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 06:04 AM
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73. posting to find this afternoon
:kick:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:02 AM
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74. Very cool!
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:15 AM
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75. Paul, you are *awesome*.
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 07:17 AM by chill_wind
I had no idea we had people here associated with the cooperativeresearch site timelines. Incredibly invaluable stuff, ALL of it.

I wish I had a nickel for every time I have cited that link and material from there! Here at DU and elsewhere. It is scrupulously sourced, and the intelligent diligence of that makes it very tough for MSM, congress people or any else to dismiss as conspiracist or fringe.

eg- Just the other day, we learned of yet more stonewalling to come on the Senate Intel Phase II report on Iraq. My immediate response was to cite the "Quotes from Senior Officials" amassed at the Center for Cooperative Research's Iraq timeline. Something the Committee claims to still be held up and "still working on." All the work has been done, despite the buffoonery of the gatekeepers. It's publicly OUT there, thanks to C for CR and sites like afterdowningstreet for any with eyes to see!

I can completely believe that one day, if people are ever idicted for wrong-doings on Iraq pre-war intel, 911 coverup, and other related matters, your work and and that of your contemporaries' there will have played a very crucial role.

Thank you, Paul. Thank you!
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:49 AM
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76. This is great!! I'll be listening.. K&R.. n/t
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:09 AM
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77. The interview was fantastic.
:toast: A morning kick.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:10 AM
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78. Congrats! I want to know why we've been spied on since before 9/11
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:25 AM
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79. They're talking about this NOW on Diane Rehm show:
Join the show: 1-800-433-8850 (drshow@wamu.org)
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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:26 AM
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80. great job Paul! thanks!
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