Nazis, good! Frenchies, bad!

[tocqueville]

Posted by Poilu
in Bashed in America (August 30, 2006 at 11:25 pm)
- 77 Comments


Last Saturday, I drove my wife and daughter to Indianapolis to see the big air show. This is a big event, with daily attendance of around 85,000 people. I especially wanted to see the WW2 airplanes. A beautiful DC-3 and B-17 were there.

Reps from Time Warner Studios were there too, and they were featuring the film “Casablanca” on a gigantic outdoor screen for the entire public after the air show in the evening, right on the runway and airport lawn.

I love classic movies, so I wanted to watch it.

I ended up regretting it.

Remember the part where everyone is in Rick’s cafe, and the Germans begin singing marching songs, then the Free French agent stands up and begins to sing “La Marseillaise,” and everyone else joins in a loud, patriotic chorus?

Well, at that point in the movie many of those who had stayed to watch it (about 8-9,000 people) began booing and hissing at the screen, and yelling just about every anti-French comment you could imagine. I couldn’t tell how many were doing this, but it sounded like A LOT of people. Instantaneous French-bashing orgy.

Not that I was very surprised. Very upset, but not surprised. This is a very heavily neo-con area, so I suppose I should have expected as much…

Anyway, time to leave, I thought. So we got to our car, and there, another sad moment: flyers had been dropped on windshields: an anti-immigrant diatribe about all those illegal Mexicans who are wiping out our culture, blah, blah, blah…

And who was the writer/sponsor of all those anti-immigrant flyers? None other than the American National Socialist Movement, apparently based in Minnesota, and obviously with several members in or around Indianapolis.

So the following day, I checked the local news and papers to see if there were any public reactions to the flyers.

Nothing.

So, damned if I’m a Frenchie, but OK if I’m an American Nazi?

http://superfrenchie.com/

[XemaSab]

1. Je deteste les grenoilles!

:P j/k

[The Jacobin]

2. Too bad

That's my favorite scene - with the Germans singing then being drowned out by the pro-French clientele.

[tocqueville]

5. to be fair you might find a French crowd booing a US team

in a soccer game or even booing the anthem (those doing that would boo any team or any anthem anyway) which would cause outrage in the press and probably official excuses, but you'll NEVER NEVER find a crowd of 9000 jeering at the Star Spangled Banner during an US WWII movie...

[bronxiteforever]

3. Today I got into a fight with a co-worker about France

she sent me a photo e-mail that had an American soldier with a patch on his uniform that said "doing the job for" then it had a French flag and a German flag. I wrote back to her and said why deprecate the sacrifice of the two French soldiers
who died in Afghanistan the other day.I said France is a fellow democracy and an ally (albeit independent minded as it should be). She then said "its too late for France" and that I had desecrated US soldiers by my comment.I told her France was right about Iraq and we should have listened.
Like your awful experience I can't fathom the average American and their hatred of France.

[Tyo]

4. France is difficult to love

For the average Red-Stater France is a hard country to work up any enthusiasm for. They are as arrogant, xenophobic, and as convinced of their own superiority as we are of ours. Rightly or wrongly they are not afraid to tell us to go fuck ourselves whenever they feel like it, and they eat better than we do without becoming grossly obese. Is it surprising that the Freepers have a hard time with them?

[orpupilofnature57]

6. Not in 1776 !!!

[Tyo]

7. The Freepers aren't interested in 1776

As far as they're concerned 1776 is one of the things that's wrong with this country. That whole rising up against the abuse of authority thing is not what they're all about.

[PassingFair]

8. Welcome to DU, Tyo!

I like your style!

:hi:

[Tyo]

12. Thanks, I like hanging out here.

But listen. If any of my posts go over the top, I hope that someone will slap me down. I get kinda exuberant sometimes.

[PassingFair]

17. I'm winding up.....

I'll let you know....

but I don't think discipline will be necessary in your case!

[orpupilofnature57]

36. Kick!! Welcome ,Tyo

[Tyo]

37. Thanks! n/t

[kineneb]

9. The French have better food.

The Freepers have no taste in art, music or food. Think Euro-Jesus painted on velvet, bad Christian rock, and deep-fried anything. Ugh. Xenophobic as they may be, a majority of French are educated, interesting and artistic. The same can't be said for the majority of Freepers. And who would you rather date? A French person would win easily in my book.

[Tyo]

14. A Freeper or a French guy?

No contest. I'd go for the French dude.

[rug]

10. Incroyable! Couchons!

[PresidentWar]

11. What do you expect from the "Freedumb Fries" morons?

They have a historical/cultural education of a turnip. And there are LOTS of them.

[Arkham House]

16. I wonder...at the height of the "Freedom Fries" BS...

...did anyone suggest renaming our favorite contraceptive "The Freedom Tickler"...?

[Up2Late]

13. Being Anti-French is about all the Ridiculous-Right has left in their...

...Bag-o-Tricks. They pick on the French because they know we (the French) don't give a crap what they think.

Don't let it bother you, that's what they want. If you stay indifferent to them and their stupid rhetoric, it really pisses 'em off.

About me: Dad born in Paris to French/American (Jewish) Mother and German (Jewish) refugee Father who fled to America in about 1940, ahead of the Nazi army because they could.

My Grand-Mother's sister survived Auschwitz concentration camp, but the Nazis did murder about 3/4s of my Grand-Father's side of the family. I grew up Catholic (Irish Catholic Mother) in N. Indiana, so I know what Indiana is like too.

[Bluebear]

15. Debussy, Hollandaise, French kisses...what's not to like?

:toast: À votre santé!

[kineneb]

18. don't forget the Troubadors, Machaut, Du Fay, Binchois,

Josquin, Gombert, Janequin, Goudimel, Lully, Couperin, Gluck, Berlioz, Bizet, Franck, Saint-Saens, Faure, Satie, Ravel, Dukas...

(music history geek /off)

And the Freepers have...?

[Bluebear]

19. You forgot Poulenc!

Ah, Francis...

[Swamp Rat]

24. Toby Keith

:rofl:

Durrp durp durrrp!1

[lonestarnot]

22. mmmmmm and don't forget the bread!

[Swamp Rat]

26. and the CHEESE!!!

:9

[lonestarnot]

28. mmmmm cheese! Not the bushitler variety please. and wine! mmmm

[Swamp Rat]

29. Yes, mmmm! Camembert de Normandie, Brie de Melun, Époisses de Bourgogne

Damn! I am HUNGRY now... and a bottle of very dry Bordeaux would be great too! :9

[lonestarnot]

30. Oh yeah baby! Think I have to make a fridge run.

:P

[Swamp Rat]

31. To make "a fridge run," you need electricity, wheels and an ounce of pot.

:P

[lonestarnot]

34. None of that will help my fridge. I just spent $250 and it's now

freezing the fucking cheese! Ever eaten frozen cheese? Let me tell you it sucks. That is some baby there! :rofl: Is statue? Since birth egh? No wonder you're hungry.

[Liberal In Texas]

20. On the next TEXAS bashing thread, I'm sending them right here.

Wow.

That's bizarre. My dad and grand dad are from Culver. They would be embarassed.

[Swamp Rat]

21. I would have stood up and sang “La Marseillaise”

Aux armes, citoyens,
Formez vos bataillons,
Marchons, marchons !
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons !

Fuck those inbred rednecks!

[lonestarnot]

23. Wooodamnwhooo Swampie! Love your spunk!

[Swamp Rat]

25. Watch out! You'll get this thread locked!

:D :rofl:

Seriously though, I would have sung it... well, as much of it as I could remember.

[lonestarnot]

27. Well if you would have told me the English translation, I would have

sung it in Spanish! :rofl:

[Liberal In Texas]

32. Try this...

Arise you children of the motherland,
The day of glory has arrived!
Against us tyranny
Has raised its bloodied banner, (1)
Do you hear, in the fields
The howling of these fearsome soldiers?
They are coming into your midst (2)
To slit the throats of your sons and consorts!
Chorus
To arms, citizens!
Form your battalions!
Let us march, let us march!
May impure blood
Soak our fields' furrows!

[Swamp Rat]

33. Full English Translation:

Verse I

Arise you children of the fatherland,
The day of glory has arrived!
Against us tyranny
Has raised its bloodied banner, (1)
Do you hear, in the fields
The howling of these fearsome soldiers?
They are coming into your midst
To slit the throats of your sons and consorts!

Chorus

To arms, citizens!
Form your battalions!
Let us march, let us march!
May impure blood
Soak our fields' furrows!

Verse II

What does this horde of slaves,
Traitors, and plotting kings want?
For whom these vile chains
These long-prepared irons?
Frenchmen, for us, ah! What outrage,
What fury it must arouse!
It is us they dare plan
To return to the old slavery!

Chorus

Verse III

What! These foreign cohorts!
They would make laws in our homes!
What! These mercenary phalanxes
Would cut down our proud warriors!
Good Lord! By chained hands
Our brow would yield under the yoke
The vile despots would become
The masters of our destiny!

Chorus

Verse IV

Tremble, tyrants and traitors
The shame of all good men,
Tremble! Your parricidal schemes
Will receive their just reward,
Against you we are all soldiers
If our young heroes fall,
The earth will bear new ones,
Ready to join the fight against you!

Chorus

Verse V

Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors
Bear or hold back your blows!
Spare these sad victims
That they may regret taking up arms against us,
But not these bloody despots,
These accomplices of Bouillé,
All these tigers who mercilessly
Ripped out their mothers' breast!

Chorus

Verse VI

Sacred patriotic love
Lead support our avenging arms
Liberty, cherished liberty,
Fight back with your defenders
Under our flags, let victory
Hurry to your manly tone
So that your enemies, in their last breath
See your triumph and our glory!

Chorus

Verse VII (Children's Verse)

We shall enter the career (3)
When our elders will no longer be there,
There we shall find their dust
And the mark of their virtues.
Much less jealous of surviving them
Than of sharing their coffins,
We shall have the sublime pride
Of avenging or following them!

Chorus
_______________________________

Original French:

Couplet I

Allons enfants de la Patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arrivé !
Contre nous de la tyrannie,
L'étendard sanglant est levé, (bis)
Entendez-vous dans les campagnes
Mugir ces feroces soldats ?
Ils viennent jusque dans vos bras
Égorger vos fils, vos compagnes !

Refrain

Aux armes, citoyens,
Formez vos bataillons,
Marchons, marchons !
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons !

Couplet II

Que veut cette horde d'esclaves,
De traîtres, de rois conjurés ?
Pour qui ces ignobles entraves,
Ces fers dès longtemps préparés ? (bis)
Français, pour nous, ah ! quel outrage
Quels transports il doit exciter !
C'est nous qu'on ose méditer
De rendre à l'antique esclavage !

Refrain

Couplet III

Quoi ! des cohortes étrangères
Feraient la loi dans nos foyers !
Quoi ! ces phalanges mercenaires
Terrasseraient nos fiers guerriers ! (bis)
Grand Dieu ! par des mains enchaînées
Nos fronts sous le joug se ploieraient
De vils despotes deviendraient
Les maîtres de nos destinées !

Refrain

Couplet IV

Tremblez, tyrans et vous perfides
L'opprobre de tous les partis,
Tremblez ! vos projets parricides
Vont enfin recevoir leurs prix ! (bis)
Tout est soldat pour vous combattre,
S'ils tombent, nos jeunes héros,
La terre en produit de nouveaux,
Contre vous tout prêts à se battre !

Refrain

Couplet V

Français, en guerriers magnanimes,
Portez ou retenez vos coups !
Épargnez ces tristes victimes,
À regret s'armant contre nous. (bis)
Mais ces despotes sanguinaires,
Mais ces complices de Bouillé,
Tous ces tigres qui, sans pitié,
Déchirent le sein de leur mère !

Refrain

Couplet VI

Amour sacré de la Patrie,
Conduis, soutiens nos bras vengeurs
Liberté, Liberté chérie,
Combats avec tes défenseurs ! (bis)
Sous nos drapeaux que la victoire
Accoure à tes mâles accents,
Que tes ennemis expirants
Voient ton triomphe et notre gloire !

Refrain

Couplet VII (Couplet des enfants)

Nous entrerons dans la carrière
Quand nos aînés n'y seront plus,
Nous y trouverons leur poussière
Et la trace de leurs vertus (bis)
Bien moins jaloux de leur survivre
Que de partager leur cercueil,
Nous aurons le sublime orgueil
De les venger ou de les suivre !

Refrain

[orpupilofnature57]

35. Viva !!