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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:28 PM
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Christian Right tries to take over the courts
In the most brazen claim so far in this election season, the judicial "guide" published by the Faith and Freedom Network states: "Please use for educational purposes only. These are not endorsements."

The Christian conservative group is, however, on the march toward the Sept. 19 primary.

It wants its followers to join the Building Industry Association of Washington in a bold move to oust incumbent judges and push our Washington state courts far to the right.

"Help elect conservative Washington State Supreme Court judges and get paid to do it," Faith and Freedom advises in its electronic newsletter.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connelly/283460_joel01.html
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:45 PM
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1. Freedom of speech Love or Hate it.
How about getting actively involved in a grass roots movement to counter the christian right influence?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:53 PM
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2. That's what people need to do
The Dominionists openly state using religious freedom to get their power, and when they get enough, they plan to get rid of the same freedom that gave them so much power.

Everybody needs to wake up and realize that we're dealing with a group of people who want to fundamentally change our lives and our nation so that it will suit them.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:58 PM
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4. I am very informed about the Dominionists movement
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 06:59 PM by Poppyseedman
Please show me where they have stated that once and if they gain control, a very big and highly unlikely one, they plan to take away our freedom of speech?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 07:00 PM
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5. Actually, I do have an exact quote of one of them saying that
"So let us be blunt about it: we must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God."

Gary North, "The Intellectual Schizophrenia of the New Christian Right" in Christianity and Civilization: The Failure of the American Baptist Culture, No. 1 (Spring, 1982), p. 25.

http://www.serve.com/thibodep/cr/liberty.htm
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 07:06 PM
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7. A quote from that nut case Gary North from 25 years ago ?
Now I'm really concerned :scared:

At least he got the sub title right
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 07:04 PM
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6. christians have a long history of murdering people who say the wrong thing
2000 years of rape torture and murder to suppress non-believers or believers who have an alternative view.

freedom of speech is not the only thing that will be suppressed.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 07:14 PM
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10. Stop posting nonsense
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 07:15 PM by Poppyseedman
"2000 years of rape torture and murder to suppress non-believers or believers"

Please site ONE time in the last 250 years the american Protestant church has used rape, torture and murder as a tool to suppress non-believers or believers in this country. The thread is referring to the Dominist movement which is primarily an american religious subset
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:55 PM
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3. Seems like that statement about getting paid to elect
conservative judges is a tad beyond educational. Maybe the IRS needs to look into this one.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 07:09 PM
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8. It is past time to revisit tax exempt status for these organizations.
WAY past time.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 07:13 PM
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9. oh yeah, I could not agree with you more on that.
If these organizations aren't political then tell what organization is?
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