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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:48 PM
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Armitage-palooza: WP savages Joe Wilson; next day, NYT shreds Fitz
WP editorial, 9/1/06
End of an Affair
It turns out that the person who exposed CIA agent Valerie Plame was not out to punish her husband.
Friday, September 1, 2006

"....it now appears that the person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame's CIA career is Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming -- falsely, as it turned out -- that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials. He ought to have expected that both those officials and journalists such as Mr. Novak would ask why a retired ambassador would have been sent on such a mission and that the answer would point to his wife. He diverted responsibility from himself and his false charges by claiming that President Bush's closest aides had engaged in an illegal conspiracy. It's unfortunate that so many people took him seriously."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/31/AR2006083101460.html

NYT news article, 9/2/06
New Questions About Inquiry in C.I.A. Leak
By DAVID JOHNSTON
Published: September 2, 2006

"An enduring mystery of the C.I.A. leak case has been solved in recent days, but with a new twist: Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the prosecutor, knew the identity of the leaker from his very first day in the special counsel’s chair, but kept the inquiry open for nearly two more years before indicting I. Lewis Libby Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney’s former chief of staff, on obstruction charges...."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/02/washington/02leak.html?hp&ex=1157169600&en=012af30d606f9608&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:03 AM
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1. K/R -THANKS FOR THIS n/t
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:05 AM
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2. question: why didn't shrub get upset about the blowing of a cia cover?
here's the ultimate question for all the shrub apologists:

whether it was armitage or novak or joe wilson or whoever's fault it was, WHY wasn't the war-on-terror white house publicly outraged that a cia cover was blown during wartime?

WHY DIDN'T SHRUB PUBLICLY PITCH A FIT FROM DAY ONE ABOUT THE OUTING OF A COVERT AGENT?

WHY DIDN'T SHRUB PUBLICLY PITCH A FIT FROM DAY ONE ABOUT THE BLOWING OF OUR NUCLEAR WMD INTEL NETWORK?

they could have gotten their revenge and still postured themselves as being on the side of protecting cia agents. but no, they acted all along like they didn't feel the least bit sorry or apologetic or even disappointed at the loss of such intelligence assets.

nevermind the criminal aspect, that's just an inexcusably negligent, if not downright traitorous, form of "leadership" during wartime.

people get so caught up in the legal aspects that they lose sight of how huge a political disaster the plame outing was (or should have been) for the shrubbies.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:09 AM
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5. Exactly right, unblock. nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:28 PM
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17. This is the only question that deserves an answer.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:08 AM
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3. It must mean that some really really really bad news is coming for Bushco.
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 12:10 AM by TacticalPeek


Like the election.

But maybe something sooner, maybe an impending blow that has set off desperate scurrying and flailing, who knows?

:evilgrin:

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:29 PM
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18. No. Exactly the opposite:
It means that, as always, the Democrats have lined themselves up on the side of hysteria and are now paying the price.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:08 AM
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4. Trial by Press - somebody must be nervous. nt
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:19 AM
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6. Rumblings
The eruption comes
Darth Dick feels tremors in force
Fitz may save us yet

-Hoot
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:33 AM
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7. Post + Times = Noise
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 05:46 PM
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20. Why are these two still on the list of reliable news sources?
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:42 AM
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8. So what is the overseas press reporting?
Domestic news is all fake all the time now,
what are they reporting overseas?
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 03:11 AM
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9. Someone tell me again why I shdn't cancel my subscription to the NYT? nt
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 08:34 AM
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12. Their eloquent endorsement of Ned Lamont --
They seem to be capable of some of the best MSM, and some of the absolute WORST. And their's is a powerful voice in both cases.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 05:42 AM
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10. Damn! They're attacking Fitz when it's very possible that Scooter
leaked the information to Armitage?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 07:40 AM
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11. Libby leaked to the press before the Novak article
July 17, 2003 was when Cooper's article was published. That was 3 days after Novak's article (July 14th 2003). June 23, 2003 and again on July 8, 2003 and July 12, 2003 was when Libby spoke with Miller. Is that before or after July 14th 2003?

Remember Novak cited "two senior administration officials." That can't possibly be Armitage because, well, he is only one person.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 08:39 AM
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13. So after all this time..
... they finally found a way to finesse this fiasco.

I believe the new story like I believed there were WMDs in Iraq. Clearly, the principals on Cheney's and Bush's staff thought there was wrongdoing, that's why at least one committed perjury.

I hope they piss Fitz off and he calls their bluffs and indicts all of them.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 11:49 AM
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14. My money's still on Fitz...
I don't believe he is bluffing.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 11:55 AM
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15. I had problems with Fitz from the getgo
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 11:56 AM by Ksec
I had a feeling he wasnt being straight up with us. Its all about profit and keeping an investigation "going" which keeps the money train flowing. Face it folks. Our government is totally broken. On all levels.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 11:59 AM
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16. I don't interpret the NYT article as shredding Fitz.
If anything, it shows that Armitage has been cooperating from the start.
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kdpeters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:53 PM
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19. I "carelessly" sent a medical report to the wrong patient ...
and found my job on the line. Yet, I never considered "idiocy" to be an excuse. The Washington Post seems to hold the highest officers of the land to lower standards when they "carelessly" reveal state secrets.

Mr. Libby and his boss, Mr. Cheney, were trying to discredit Mr. Wilson; if Mr. Fitzgerald's account is correct, they were careless about handling information that was classified.


Guess that explains the ever declining quality of Washington post editorials. Miss a deadline? As long as you were just careless.

fuckers!!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 05:48 PM
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21. Fred Barnes too
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