Rawstory frontpage :MAJOR ROVE EXCLUSIVE COMING TONIGHT... DEVELOPING....

[Greeby]

That is all http://www.rawstory.com

[Catherine Vincent]

1. Cool!

I have no plans this weekend. Just sitting at home relaxing. I hope it's good.

[blue cat]

3. Wow

I can't wait. Maybe I'll get a chance to do the snoopy dance tonight.

[Monkeyman]

4. Only plan tonight is rest up long weekend with our people running

But I want to see this one

[MADem]

35. HE's AGNOSTIC, his stepfather is GAY!!!!!

No shit...that's it. http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/New_book_alleges_Rove_agnostic_stepfather_0902.html


A new book by Austin-based journalist James Moore and senior political reporter for the Dallas Morning News Wayne Slater to be released Tuesday will allege that Karl Rove's step-father, Louis Rove, divorced his mother and lived the rest of his adult life as an openly gay man, RAW STORY has learned.

This is one of many bombshells delivered by reporters James Moore and Wayne Slater in The Architect: Karl Rove and the Master Plan for Absolute Power. RAW STORY obtained an advance copy of the book.

There is much to digest in The Architect, but new details of Rove's family history, self-proclaimed agnosticism, and the political machine built by friends such as the scandalized lobbyist Jack Abramoff, are certain to raise the heckles of Rove's Republican base.

Citing on the record sources including close friends of the elder Rove, Moore and Slater reveal he lived openly as a gay man and remained close to his son throughout his life.

Karl grew up believing Rove was his natural father, learning the truth only after his parents divorce during his young adulthood. A New Yorker profile of Rove recounts their relationship:

Rove spoke of his adoptive father in a tone of fierce admiration, love, and loyalty, for, as he put it, “how selfless his love had been,” as shown by his willingness to play, persuasively, the part of a blood parent for two decades.
The Architect describes the relationship of Louis and his long time friend, Joseph Koons. "Joseph Koons had been living openly as a gay man throughout his adult life, but Louis Rove had only come out after he'd left his family in Salt Lake City and moved to Southern California," the authors write.....

[Taoschick]

42. Huh?

His "stepfather is gay" is something to celebrate as an attack?

I am not understanding this....

[MADem]

46. It's stupid. About the only thing you can pull from it is that Rove is

BIG SHOCK!!!!

......a HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!

[Cleita]

2. Well, let's hope KKKarl and company are so far out in the woods

on this holiday weekend that they can't get back on time to lie, threaten or bribe their way out of this story.

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

5. Very Interesting....Quite a tease. No link..

Jump in, the water is nice...

[C_U_L8R]

6. did he bust a polyp ?

what's the scoop?

[napi21]

7. I HATE these teaser headlines Rawstory does!

I do alwayshave DUwindow open, but I hate to be teased like this!

[Fridays Child]

8. An Atwater brain tumor moment? eom

[lisa58]

10. how cool would that be? n/t

[Fridays Child]

12. Without wishing death on Rove, the poetic justice wouldn't escape me.

[Mabus]

20. I'm not getting my hopes up until Karl starts issuing apologies

At least Atwater apologized people before he died. Rove and Bush never will.

[panader0]

9. Any clue what it is? Please?

[POAS]

37. Major news: Rove is

agnostic and he has a gay relative.

[Fridays Child]

11. Were the NY Times and Washington Post attacks on Fitz and Wilson...

...pre-emptive? Just speculating here.

[Mabus]

15. Don't forget L. Brent Bozell stepped down

from Parents Television Council to spend more time with his family.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2490576

I'm definitely watching too much CNN. Speculating is something they are really good at and I think I'm catching on.

[sendero]

16. I sure wouldn't be surprised..

... that is definitely their M.O. I used to be a skeptic about this, and I still doubt that every damn story the MSM picks up is a "diversion", but whenever they have an opportunity to blunt bad news with some bullshit they take it - there is really no doubt left about that.

[Mabus]

28. It is their M.O.

and they've still got plenty of stooges in the media willing to help them.

[Catherine Vincent]

13. Now it says "MAJOR ROVE, BUSH EXCLUSIVE

You should change your heading.

[brentspeak]

14. *snore*

Wake me when there's an actual story.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

17. I'll bet he's quitting.

Announcement Monday or Tuesday AM. He's become too much of a liability or he's going to work on some key senate race or races, to help them keep that house.

[TahitiNut]

21. Oh, please. Let him work on Santorum's campaign.

:evilgrin:

[TahitiNut]

18. Maybe the blossom is off the turd.

:shrug:

[janx]

25. To every thing, there is a season...!

;-)

[Jackpine Radical]

19. Well, to be precise, that headline is...

MAJOR ROVE, BUSH EXCLUSIVE TONIGHT... DEVELOPING....

[TahitiNut]

23. Changed again.

"MAJOR ROVE EXCLUSIVE BREAKING TONIGHT... DEVELOPING....'

Gee, aren't we good.

[Catherine Vincent]

27. Now, they changed it back.

What the heck is going on?

[Catherine Vincent]

22. I hope it's not about Rove's father being gay....

http://americablog.blogspot.com/

[MelissaB]

29. That story is linked right below this headline, so it must be something

else.

[TahitiNut]

32. You got it. "New book alleges Rove agnostic, step-father gay"

:puke:

[Demobrat]

41. Stepfather.

Yup that's it. And that's not all. He's - GASP - agnostic!

[rusty charly]

24. He's marrying James Guckert?

[mom cat]

26. Who? ..... Bush or Rove?

[rusty charly]

89. well, i was close

[RagAss]

30. Oh PUUUUUULLLEEEAASE....not this crap again.....

[Canuckistanian]

31. Rove�s Word Is No Longer G.O.P. Gospel (NYT Today)

WASHINGTON, Sept. 2 � Karl Rove, the president�s chief political adviser, is struggling to steer the Republican Party to victory this fall at a time when he appears to have the least political authority since he came to Washington, party officials said.

Mr. Rove remains a dominant adviser to President Bush, administration officials say. But outside the White House, as Mr. Bush�s popularity has waned, and as questions have arisen among Republicans about the White House�s political acumen, the party�s candidates are going their own way in this difficult election season far more than they have in any other campaign Mr. Rove has overseen.

Some are disregarding Mr. Rove�s advice, despite his reputation as the nation�s premier strategist. They are criticizing Mr. Bush or his policies. They are avoiding public events with the president and Mr. Rove.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/02/washington/03rove.web.html?hp&ex=1157256000&en=ace162f43b729e50&ei=5094&partner=homepage

The long knives are out for Rove....

[Cleita]

33. Here's the story.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/New_book_alleges_Rove_agnostic_stepfather_0902.html

[MaineDem]

60. That's it???

My god, I thought Rove was killing old ladies or something.

Who cares if his stepfather is gay? The world is falling apart and this is the news?

[mp3hound]

86. Oh boy. That's disappointing.

It reads like a trashy tabloid rather than the good work that is typically presented at Raw Story.

And the lead up to the "developing" story certainly didn't help. I have been reading raw story for quite some time and this is a terrible disappointment.

[Monkeyman]

34. Dam all this for nothing what a let down

[elehhhhna]

38. Yep. I'm disappointed in RS. Gay stepfather? Big deal. Agnostic?

Please. That's being generous. He's a frikkin devil worshipper and y'all know it.

[lala_rawraw]

49. sorry to have let you down...

i am not in charge of the front page and cannot control how the information is presented outside of my own work. that said, i have been sitting on this at the request of the authors for a month and i think it is damn important, not because of the gay element, but because of how sexual orientation was abused by people who want privacy in their own lives. not only that, i think Bush saying "Jews going to hell" is also news. And I think it is also news that Rove met with Abramoff on street corners. but again, I am sorry you see nothing of value here.

[Catherine Vincent]

52. I think we were all hoping it was regarding the CIA Leak case.

You did good. I guess I should go and actually read your article. lol.

[lala_rawraw]

59. thanks and yes, you should...

seems like people read the titles only and don't realize that writers never have control over the titles or the teasers.

[brentspeak]

78. s/del

[janx]

53. It is very big news indeed, lala.

"Jews going to hell" ?? I didn't see that in the book review--it must be in the book itself. But the other things the Raw Story review mentions are important. Rove is a moral imbecile.

[lala_rawraw]

63. thanks... it always surprises me that

people think that writers have control over titles and that RS, which never reported that Rove was indicted, would suddenly be "here we go again" mode. i don't get it... are people unable to tell the difference between publications, writers, and such? do we need a list here to keep straight the six or seven publications we have left for news?

Raw Story
Alternet
TruthOut
MotherJones
Rolling Stone
Nation
American Prospect

anyway, thanks:)

[madfloridian]

64. Did you see "Bush's Brain"? Same authors.

I am not disappointed at all. I will order a copy.

[Connie_Corleone]

36. It's just about a book coming out about Rove.

[dogday]

39. We are so hungry for anything juicy and dirty

and I understand why... We want to see these crooks fry....

[Catherine Vincent]

43. You said "juicy and dirty"

That's Karl Rove to a tee! LOL!

[Sydnie]

44. That sounds like poetry to me!

:woohoo: Hope it's something so good that I have dreams about it that pale in comparison!

[Catherine Vincent]

40. I wonder why at first it said "Rove Exclusive" and then switched to

"Rove, Bush Exclusive" and then back to "Rove Exclusive"? Since it's about Rove's gay dad, what would Bush have to do with that?

[dogday]

54. Find that out and you really would have a story

:rofl:

[OzarkDem]

45. Sounds like GOP throwing Rove overboard

Agnosticism and a gay step-father are not a big deal to Dems, but they're likely to cause a furor among right wingers. Strange.

[janx]

47. The Raw Story review of the book is interesting.

Rove is one sick guy. The right wing is not going to like this information.

[lala_rawraw]

50. you guys saw the Abramoff stuff and the Bush anti-Jews stuff?

[madfloridian]

70. I saw them.. Ignore the attacks here....it is constant here now.

No one escapes them, it has been a circus here today.

[lala_rawraw]

74. oh i know, i am familiar with the attacks

and they are generally from little Segretti types

[janx]

71. As you probably know now, I didn't see the anti-semitic

stuff on first view. I read enough to know that this book will be a (pardon the pun) revelation to some "conservative" Christians.

When you pointed us to the second article, I saw the anti-semitic stuff.

[OzarkDem]

79. Is the GOP trying to "reform" itself?

My suspicion has always been that, in order to win this year and especially in 2008, the GOP has to run against itself, as reformers of their own party.

Given that Dems haven't gotten much of a profile still with the voting public, its very likely the GOP can turn their chances around by distancing themselves from the Bush administration and running as "reform" candidates. The news media will be very obliging, as usual.

I'm skeptical, not doubting that all of this is true, but that its being done for a reason. To help the GOP in some way.

[janx]

83. This book was not written for that reason, if I'm reading

the review correctly. No, these guys are writing about the ethos of the whole "W" outfit, going back to when he was the governor of Texas. I suspect the book will be very revealing, and I just might buy a copy. (I'm not one to go out and buy all of the political books.)

When the Chimp was running for president, Harper's published a long biographical article about "W" that I haven't forgotten. It contained a lot of information of what went down in Texas. This book sounds even more informative.

[mitchum]

48. Son of a cuckold, gay stepfather, suicided mother, disabled child...

AND born on Dec 25 (cuts into the birthday loot) All of this went into making him the wonderful person he is today.

[flyingfysh]

51. this is rather disappointing.

I had expected something more of a "major Rove exclusive".

[lala_rawraw]

56. hmmm...

""You know what I'm gonna tell those Jews when I get to Israel, don't you Herman?" a then Governor George W. Bush allegedly asked a reporter for for the Austin American-Statesman.

When the journalist, Ken Herman, replied that he did not know, Bush delivered the punch line: "I'm telling 'em they're all going to hell."

This quip never made the wider media."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Book_Bush_told_reporter_Jews_are_0902.html

[janx]

61. Ah, there it is.

:hi:

[Catherine Vincent]

67. If only Libermann had known Bush felt that way about the Jews.

Maybe he wouldn't have kissed his ass all those years.

[Individualist]

55. A book about Rove's father

is a "major Rove exclusive"???? :eyes:

[janx]

57. Did you read the review?

The book is not about Rove's father. It's about Rove.

[lala_rawraw]

66. bingo... you rock...

And boy is it a sick picture of not just Rove, but the christian right-Rove attack on this nation. Jim Moore was put on the no fly list, wonder if it is an "accident"?

[lala_rawraw]

58. do you guys only read the titles that editors slap onto an article?

or do you actually read the article?

[StrictlyRockers]

68. I get all my news from videos, I don't read anything.

JOKE!!

I get so caught up reading the fascinating stuff you can find out about via DU that sometimes I stay up all night reading!

DU is a powerhouse wealth of information. I love it here!!!

:woohoo:
:woohoo:

[Individualist]

73. When I see "major exclusive",

I expect to hear about something so important that even the propagandist media can't ignore it.

[kohodog]

76. The teaser was annoying, but...

But the article seems to point to the GOP machine coming unhinged. The whitehouse must have seen the book, or why else would the NYT have written their article on Rove's star fading today? That is somehow important to me.

There are few coincidences in politics any more, and the fact that a story about Rove's influence being diminished appeared on the front page of the NYT today leads me to believe there is coordination between the WH and the MSM. I doubt the WH is throwing Rove under the bus, but can someone explain to me the timing of the NYT article and the Raw Story article about the book?

[muriel_volestrangler]

85. Th good news is the RS editors seem to have changed the article title

to include Abramoff, which I'd agree is much more important. I don't think anyone was having a go at you personally, lala - it was presumably the editors who came up with the teaser, and when they then used the headline 'Rove agnostic, stepfather gay', you'd presume that was the 'major exclusive'. Perhaps it was the criticism on sites like this that got the editors to re-examine the story and alter the headline. Or maybe you persuaded them yourself - in which case, well done.

[AntiFascist]

65. What about his real, Nazi father?

:evilgrin:

[madfloridian]

62. These are the guys who wrote "Bush's Brain". I will buy one.

That was outstanding, and I trust this will be also.

[cascadiance]

69. So is this how the white house staff and Rove met Jeff Gannon/Guckert?

[lala_rawraw]

72. wow, Osama's number two released a video ...

on the same day that NYT ran Rove's lost power story and we ran the book review... nexus again? we need to start keeping a list.

[madfloridian]

75. BTW, at DU lately if you say it is raining...someone will say it isn't..

they will say the sun is shining and call you an idiot and a fool for even thinking that way.

[janx]

77. Is is very coincidental that the Rove lost power story

and the news of this book came out the same day.

[OzarkDem]

81. Looks orchestrated

Wonder if they're just "pruning the GOP tree"? I dunno. He's been traveling around with Mehlman and others lately, he's still very much involved in the GOP camapaigns right now.

[janx]

82. He is?

He might not be for long! ;-)

[OzarkDem]

84. He was just here in Ohio

with Ken Mehlman a week or so ago. They spent time in Toledo (where the Tom Noe - Coingate case is being tried) and here in Cleveland - filling the newspapers in on their media strategy for the next few months, probably.

If he disappears, he won't go far. He'll still be behind the scenes running things.

[alfredo]

80. What this could do is drive a wedge between bush and his

theocratic followers. I could give a shit if Rove was raised by a gay man, or if he's an agnostic, but it could be very important to those who have nothing but hatred for gays and non Christians. They may even question his sexuality because they believe gay parents make their children gay.

[Bluzmann57]

87. Yawn.

Is he having somethinmg different for dinner tonight? There is a lot of skepticism here in DU about a lot of things. This is one of mine. Seeing is believing.

[madfloridian]

88. Here is the video by the same name from 2004. Same authors?

I think the same authors, the same ones also as Bush's Brain.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/architect/

It has sections called The Mastermind, The Rise of the Republican Party, Texas, Harbinger of the Future.

Is this book a sequel?

There is also a movie that came out called Bush's Brain by the same authors as the new book announced today.

Here is the video section from PBS called The Mastermind.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/architect/rove/

I guess I meant to ask if this a series.

[rosesaylavee]

90. Disappointing.