Jesus Camp - Movie

[CollegeDUer]

http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/

The trailer says 25% of America is now under the evangelical camp? THAT much?

[TheFriedPiper]

1. I would be surprised if it weren't for the popularity of:

SUVs
Country "music"
American Idol
Survivor
Fear Factor
...the list goes on and on


So, it doesn't surprise me at all to find out that at least 25% of Americans are pathologically insane.

[Warpy]

3. You won't find religious lunatics watching "reality" shows

on TV. Their sets, if they have them, are permanently locked to religious stations.

While 25% are self identified as evangelicals, they're not all religious lunatics. The truly crazy are a fairly small minority of Evangelical Christians.

They're also isolating themselves more and more, terrified to be contaminated by fact based reality.

A few will probably act out violently and force us to deal with the movement as a whole.

[TheFriedPiper]

4. I find the term 'religious lunatics'

redundant.

Besides, reality TV has nothing to do with reality. It's trumped up bullshit made for idiots.

[eallen]

2. How else do you think Bush got elected? They are his base.

[CollegeDUer]

6. i thought the rich were that

remember F9/11?

[TwentyFive]

8. The rich are only 1% of the population - absolute tops 15-20%.

Once you get past the top 15% of income earners, more start to vote Democrat. Evangelicals make up the other 35% needed to win elections.

Evangelicals/fundies are the foot soldiers within the republican party. Pastors and church leaders have convinced them they are in an actual 'war' with prochoice and pro-gay people. They are the ones that will call, harass, protest, and engage in sloganeering debates with sound bites picked up from their pastor or televangelist.

[eallen]

9. No, religion is a better predictor of voting GOP than income....

The GOP's attraction to those who earn higher incomes seems to me more tied to career type than to income, per se. To stereotype, developers, bankers, and telemarketers vote Republican, while engineers, architects, and hi tech entrepeneurs vote Democrat. You can see this split along different career lines when considering the fact that people with graduate degrees lean Democrat, even though that also is correlated with income.

There's a reason the modern GOP pushes social issues. That's what keeps its base.

[loves_dulcinea]

5. i beg you, give me,

"National lampoon's 'Jesus camp, the movie'".

[TwentyFive]

7. I'd say at least 25% when measuring actual voters & activists.

I don't know actual numbers, but I know they influence a larger circle.

What worries me is their statement, "Take Back America for Christ?" From who are they going to take it from? Reminds me of the Ralph Reed quote, "We paint our faces and travel at night. you don't know its over until you're in a body bag."

Evangelicals are the Storm Troopers & Brown Shirts of the 21st century...the unwitting foot soldiers for the ultra rich capitalist power brokers.

[Windy]

10. I found the trailer very very disturbing

They are using mind control on those kids. While they may not blow themselves up, the christian fundamentalists are radicals just as much as the radical islamists. They are all dangerous.

[ComerPerro]

11. Three big reasons that fundie Christians aren't committing terrorism

and terrorist acts.

One, of course, is because they don't need to. They live in the most powerful nation in the world, and for the most part (epecially now) our military does whatever the Christians want anyway. Hell, they want to stir shit up in the Middle East to bring about Armageddon and the rapture? Bush is doing it for them.


Two, they are lazy and cowardly. Most of them won't even enlist as soldiers in a war they very strongly support. They won't fight for what they believe in, because someone else will do it for them.


and, three:

This is America, we have a very high standard of living, especially when compared to coutuntries that produce terrorists. So these kids have a lot to live for (like friends, TV, video games, etc).

[Protagoras]

12. Do we exclude Waco and Jonestown from Fundie Christianity

But include anyone with a gun or a bomb with Islam? Seriously, I never see anyone mention that Timothy Mcveigh was a christian.

I think the fundie christians commit acts of terrorism all the time. the KKK claims to be christian...so do almost all other white supremacy groups that assault people, vandalize property, and even kill. But for some very odd reason we never think of them as a natural outgrowth of extreme fundamentalism? And why aren't their acts considered terrorism? How about that Nutburger Phelps?

I'm willing to look at it another way but I'm not sure how to begin.

[ComerPerro]

13. forgot about the KKK. And I of course didn't include

abortion clinic bombers.

[Windy]

15. You are 100% correct.....

this is radicalism. The lunatic fringe. And they are polluting the minds of their offspring. I feel sorry for those kids. They will never have a normal life and they will raise their children the same way. To hate all those who don't believe as they do. Seemed a bit like the Hitler youth to me

[and-justice-for-all]

14. Great, they are brainwashing kids...as usual

Its nothing new and its been done since the inception of the christian cult...

Kids are highly impressionable, so the shamen take advantage of this and basicly exploite the children. The kids are never given the chance to make a decision for theirselves on the issue of if the want to believe or not and what faith if any can they follow...

Their is actually an Atheist Camp, which is really doing well...

[goddess40]

16. Atheist Camp?

Where would that be?

I can't run this trailer on my computer, but I'm sure my poverty stricken sister will be in line to see it. She's one of those nasty home schoolers (not the ones that do an excellent job) she keeps her kids home to protect them from the evil outside world. Plus she's to damn lazy to get them to a real school and can't afford to send them to a religious private school - and the religious schools don't do charity.
If she does vote it will be against the interests of her children, herself and her country.