**OPERATION TRUTHSEEKER** This is LONG.. very LONG...

[Rosco T.]

OK.. we're all pretty well worn out and tired.. a lot of shit flying both ways and it's been hard to make sense of it. I'm gonna try now.. I hereby dub this OPERATION TRUTHSEEKER... full briefing now begins, there's gonna be a lot of HISTORY till we get to the meat..

SOME GROUND RULES

allright, were gonna try to make this a SERIOUS DISCUSSION and not a fricking TROLL HONEYPOT. Therefore, will the following KNUCKLEDRAGGERS please have the courtesy to disrupt somewhere else. Pleas do read and THINK before you spew.. you will hopefully learn something....

KD-TYPE-1 : Awww fuck you! fuck Air America! I'll never listen to them again! They're all DLC Stooges! Fuck Air America!

Now if you're going to take that attitude, then you must say it as follows "Fuck Rachel Maddow, Fuck Thom Hartmann, Fuck Randi Rhodes, Fuck Sam Seder, Fuck Al Franken, Fuck Laura Flanders, Fuck Chuck D. Fuck Steve Earl, Fucky Bobby Kennedy Jr, Fuck Mike Papantonio, Fuck each and every host at the same time because none of them are worth anything. I will do all I can to cause the absolute most damage to the network and give the freepers all the ammo they need to help me trash the network and the goal of restoring a rational, intelligent government to this nation". You can't mean anything else. They are ALL AIR AMERICA.

KD-TYPE-2 : BabbaBooey! BabbaBooey! BabbaBooey! XM SUCKS, Sirius Rules! BabbaBooey! BabbaBooey! BabbaBooey!

You want to petition Sirius, please, go right ahead. It's a waste of your time and I'll be explaining why. But don't be answering every message with that tripe. Thank You.

KD-TYPE-3 : It's a CLEAR CHANNEL PLOT! CLEAR CHANNEL BOUGHT AIR AMERICA! and CLEAR CHANNEL OWNS XM!

Both are bullshit and it's been proven time and time again. HOWEVER, there is an interesting CLEAR CHANNEL aspect to the big picture as I'll explain farther down.

KD-TYPE-4 : Ed Schultz SUCKS! He's a 'thug in lib clothing!

Now, "HOW DID ED SCHULTZ GET IN THIS CONVERSATION?", I hear you cry. Believe it or not, there is a connection to the big picture as you'll see.. and it's NOT what you may expect.

there.. I think I covered all of those... now, to business...

WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR -

This is gonna be an amalgam of a lot of information. 80% of it is easily findable on the net if you dig enough, 20% is going to be logical conclusions and informed speculation and the last 10% are things that I've gotten from folks the past few days..

waitaminute asshole.. that's 110% you cry. Sure is.. that last 10% is woven in-agmonst all the rest to glue it together and to obfuscate any chance of determining it's source. Some people just don't realize that in some respects the radio business is worse than politics (what am I saying, it IS politics) and you have to keep your sources confidential. No, you get these whinney ass people bitching "I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW! I DON'T HAVE TIME TO WAIT! TELL ME ALL YOU KNOW OR YOUR JUST SOME GOSSIP WHORE!".

There are those people that just don't get nuance.

I've had to be very, very careful in weaving this information. Last time I tried to help and give a little info and dig in (Randi's show going to the full 3 hours on XM, Malloy coming on XM) SOME Whinney Ass Titty Baby CALLED XM AND SAID ONE OF THERE PROPAGANDA OPERATIVES WAS BLABBERING ALL OVER THE NET. I repeatedly have told people that I don't work for XM, don't own any stock.. but those STUPID BUTTHEADS kept it going. I lost several contacts with that and those actions put a hold on other plans in XM. Congratulations shitheads.. you ruined a good thing.

But I digress...

OK, here's where we are.

These is now ZERO chance of MIKE going back to AAR. Period. There was a very, small window that it could of happened, but after the embarrassment they caused Mike, it's never gonna happen. Ever.

Unconfirmed (but multiple ears) tell me that the Bean Counter that did this is/will be sacked. Small consolation.

The report that Laura Flanders will take over Mike's slot are .... er .... somewhat suspicious and hard to believe. Yes, Laura does bring her own sponsor (The Nation) HOWEVER there is a HELLUVA BIG DIFFERENCE between the costs of the 2 days of weekend afternoon show and FIVE days of late night show. Assuming costs were really the key here, that would be a killer.

/*OPINION*/ If AAR was smart on this debacle, they would tap some of the talent that are at the local AAR affiliate's around the country for this slot, put a different host from local AAR's on EACH NIGHT. John Elliot, Peter Werbe, Dr. Mike and others. Call it "Across Air America" and use it as tryout to get peoples reaction to different hosts. /* END OPINION */

So, now the only thing we can do is GET MIKE BACK ON THE AIR somehow... that only leaves the questions HOW and WHERE.

WE NOW DIGRESS FOR HISTORY LESSON #1 - XM VS. SIRIUS

Here within we will dissect the past of AAR with both and the reasons why the 'split' occurred and what the direction of each is.

Back when AAR first came on the air, they approached both Sirius and XM to get on. Both were glad to get the programming for effectively FREE. Sirius did step for the with the addition of Sirius Left for additional voices, but by doing so, tied up a lot of talent with them also. XM also picked up the programming, but they were already planning a left channel, so they had some EXISTING CONTRACTS to deal with (Ed Schultz, Alan Colmes) that couldn't just be shoved away and dropped. This is PRECISELY the situation that AAR now finds itself in with WWRL and the smuck Armstrong Williams. He's got a contract and HONORABLE PEOPLE honor the contract. Given time it will change.

Moving on.. after the 1st year or so, AAR was in some financial straits and (justifiably) needed to be paid for their programming.

Now, one VERY IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER, in Radio, just like in other business, good PR buzz is the art of making chicken salad out of chicken shit.

So, AAR tells Sirius & XM "we need to be paid for our programming".

Sirius is in the middle of building 'stunt programming'. $500 million for Howard, Martha Stewart, Richard Simmons ( :rofl: ) buying up the NASCAR. Estimates are they dropped close to $650 million in ONE YEAR for programming.

XM was doing building also.. .XMPR - their own public radio service (since SIRIUS was throwing money at NPR for an 'exclusive' contract that didn't even include some of their best programs . XM went straight to the source of NPR programs (PRI and America Public Media) and gave a rebirth to Bob Edwards when he was cast off from NPR and kept his insightful interviews coming on XM.

Now take a look at those programming choices again, comparing between the two.

Uh Huh.

XM made AAR a very generous offer, both in money and services (the XM studios in DC will be quite handy when John Conyers start the impeachment hearings). Sirus basically told them to take what they had (ie. nothing) and be happy with it.

This is where chicken shit (lousy offer from Sirius) becomes chicken salad ("Air America - exclusively on XM RADIO").

That's it, plain and simple. It wasn't a matter of XM luring AAR away, it was a matter of saving face.

Now, what's XM done since then? They've kept their word. All four hours of Randi, Colmes gone to another channel, Schultz gone to another channel, Malloy live.. they run the ENTIRE AAR schedule live and direct (from Network XXIII, ahem...). They've also added some other exceptional left shows outside Air America. If you haven't listened to "Left Jab", "Broadminded" and "The Agenda" you really should.

Now, what's Sirius done since then? Not a helluva lot. The old AAR channel was absorbed to other uses, but hey! They got Thom Hartmann live and complete (er.. oh.. ok.. ) and Stephanie Miller live and complete!! (er.. whoops). It's pretty much the way it was when AAR left. Oh, and let's not forget "The Blue Collar Comedy Channel"... yeah.. git'er done!!

Now, which of the two do you think will be more receptive to fresh "lefty" programming?

Answer left as an exercise to the reader.

HISTORY LESSON #2 - XM AND CLEAR CHANNEL

Way back when, when XM was just getting started, yes, Clear Channel DID INVEST some money in XM and CONTRACTED to provide programming with a certain amount of bandwidth. This is NOT OWNING XM. This is providing services. Clear Channel DID have a say in programming IN THEIR OWN CHANNELS WITH RESPECT TO THE OVERALL XM PLAN.

from WIKIPEDIA

Clear Channel programming agreement

As part of terrestrial radio giant Clear Channel Communications' early investment into XM in 1998, the companies entered into agreements which provided for certain programming and director designation arrangements as long as Clear Channel retained the full amount of its original investment in XM. In June 2003, Clear Channel entered into a forward sales agreement relating to its ownership of XM. During the third quarter of 2005, Clear Channel and XM arbitrated the impact of this agreement on the Operational Assistance Agreement and the Director Designation Agreement. The Arbitration Panel decided that the Operational Assistance Agreement would remain in effect, including Clear Channel's right to receive a revenue share of commercial advertising on programming it provides to XM, but declined to enforce the Director Designation Agreement. Per the original agreement, Clear Channel has the right to program 409.6 kbit/s of XM bandwidth, including forcing XM to include commercial advertising. The current plans for this bandwidth will include up to 5 music channels including: XM11 Nashville!, XM21 KISS, XM22 Mix, XM24 Sunny, and the relaunch of WSIX on XM161 plus the existing talk channel programming (XM165 Talk Radio, XM152 Extreme XM, XM142 Fox Sports Radio, and XM173 WLW). Plans to introduce new regional based talk channels, which would have featured a local 2-3 minute newscast for each area of the country, were cancelled. The music channel advertising is expected to be limited to the 5-6 minute per hour maximum that was in place prior to XM taking its music channels commercial-free in 2004.

Seen as a blow to XM's 100% commercial-free music channel status, XM Executive Vice President of Programming Eric Logan released a programming announcement to XM subscribers on the company's website that reiterated XM's commitment to commercial-free music while noting that XM still had the most commercial-free music and that more commercial-free music channels will be added in the near future to ensure that XM will still have more commercial-free music than competitor Sirius Satellite Radio. On April 17, 2006, XM launched US Country (XM17), Flight 26 (XM26), XM Hitlist (XM30) and Escape (XM78) to provide commercial free music in the formats of the Clear Channel programmed music channels which were going to begin airing commercials. In response, Sirius has displayed that they are the only satellite radio provider that is 100% commercial free with music. Both XM and Sirius air commercials currently on their news, talk, and sports channels.

The Clear Channel forward sales agreement with Bear, Stearns & Co. Inc is set to expire in 2008, at which time Clear Channel is expected to deliver to Bear Stearns over 8.3 million shares in XM — which is their original investment — however Clear Channel withholds the right to settle with cash. If Clear Channel settles with shares, then it would be expected at that time that Clear Channels' Operational Assistance Agreement with XM would terminate, along with any and all programming provided by Clear Channel.

/*end wiki/

So, at this time, XM is NOT TOO PLEASED WITH CLEAR CHANNEL. And for a very surprising reason, neither is Ed Schultz.

Schultz is caught up in the channel shuffling frenzy that Clear Channel is going thru (some would say the death struggle). His program originally on 165, has been shuffled over to 152 (Extreme) and CUT BACK TO ONE HOUR OF THREE LIVE AND ONE HOUR TAPE DELAYED TILL MIDNIGHT.

Big Eddie is not pleased. This is to our advantage.


OPERATION TRUTHSEEKER

So, there's all the groundwork. What do we do with it.

A FOUR PRONGED PLAN TO AT THE VERY LEAST GET MIKE BACK ON THE AIR, AT THE MOST BACK ON NATIONWIDE IN SOME FORM.

Target 1: Jones Radio.

Mike has said that he can't self-syndicate, it's just Him, Kathy and Molly (but I bet Molly could sell anyone). JONES is the BEST CHOICE TO GET MIKE SYNDICATED.

E-Mail/Snail Mail Barrage #1 : Jones Radio Network (if anyone can provide the proper email/addresses, help) Tell them that a talent like Malloy can not be allowed to lay fallow and he would fit in great with their other talent.

Target 2: XM Radio ON BEHALF OF ED SCHULTZ!

PUT DOWN THE PITCHFORKS! Yes, on behalf of Ed. I don't give a shit if you like him or not, he is a voice of the left from a different angle and GETTING HIM BACK TO THE FULL THREE HOURS WILL HELP US IN THE PLAN. And it will piss off Clear Channel, need you a better reason? Tell them you WANT ED BACK TO HIS FULL THREE HOURS... EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER CHANNEL TO PUT HIM ON (ah ha!!)

Target 3: XM Radio/HighVoltage for MIKE.

This is what you're already doing, and it IS getting noticed. Keep up the good work. Now, the problem is that assuming we are successful on target #1, that Mike wouldn't be 'uncensored', so he probably wouldn't be a good fit for High Voltage.. but IT WILL SURE SHOW XM THERE IS INTEREST IN GETTTING HIM ON XM SOMWHERE.. EVEN IF IT'S ON A DIFFERENT CHANNEL (ah ha ha!!)

Target 4: XM Radio FOR BALANCE

Tell XM they need some BALANCE against the preponderance of RIGHT WING TALK. They have AMERICA RIGHT, FOX NEWS, TALK RADIO (mostly righties now except for Art Bell), EXTREME (Glen Beck, Todd Schintt... phuti..) and for XM to stay ahead, they need to bring on some more of the stellar LEFT voices... STEPHANIE MILLER, THOM HARTMANN, LIONEL, DOUG BASHAM, MIKE MALLOY, and WHAT HAPPENED TO ED SCHULTZ, WHERE DID HE GO???

Target 1 builds a demand/interest in Mike
Target 2 builds a demand/interest in Ed AND A NEW CHANNEL
Target 3 builds a demand/interest in Mike
Target 4 builds a demand/interest in A NEW CHANNEL (and Mike/Ed)

See how it interlocks, and builds an interest from MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS? Ain't nuance wonderful?

Builds on the weakness in the schedule and plays on the 'feelings' between Clear Channel/XM to counter their programming??

Multiple attacks on weak or effective points are better than a simple head-on assault.

The BEST WORST that happens (won't talk about the worst worst) is Mike is syndicated on Jones and we get him back streaming if nothing else.

The THIRD BEST is that Mike gets picked up on XM High Voltage, uncensored and can be heard all over the country.

The SECOND BEST is that Mike gets syndicated by Jones and gets picked up on XM on another existing channel.

The BEST BEST is that Mike gets syndicated by Jones, and XM (finally) gets the reborn "America Left" with Mike, Stephanie, Thom, Ed, et. al.)

IMPORTANT NOTE: Use a different email for each target. Too many emails from the same address start to look fishy. Gmail is your friend, I have about 100 invites available for a account and the day or so after you start the account, YOU will have 100 invites to pass out. Other with Gmail already, help out here. DON'T USE HOTMAIL, it's in the spam filters already. Don't just copy/paste from each other, be original. Don't send the same email every time. Mix it up.

So, there we go. A direction. A history. A goal.

Let's be careful out there.... and watch your backs.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. You know I have no idea why this happened

it sucks yes... but the firing squad I have seen round these parts is a bad idea. Your proposal that they should try several talent is a good one (And if they are readying DU they might do it... maybe... just maybe)

As to where to park Mike... I think he'll land on his feet. What I fear is that this will be hard times for him... but he has us watching his back.

Wow what you miss when you are living though your personal soap opera... I alluded to it earlier... but that is another story

[MADem]

2. Very well laid out, nuance and all! Proactive, too. Good job. NT

[KittyWampus]

27. I doubt many Malloy listeners DO nuance, lol!

[EFerrari]

34. Some of us actually live for nuance.

:)

[B Calm]

3. Long read, but well worth it!

[cry baby]

4. thanks RT...k&r

[patrioticliberal]

5. alright. I'll kick, but don't be upset with me..

When XM picks up Malloy and no one can archive his show legally online to places like WhiteRoseSociety!!!

[Rosco T.]

8. Unless of course Mike assigns those rights to White Rose eh?

there are always solutions.

[patrioticliberal]

14. Good luck with that..they are very strict on that

[Rosco T.]

22. If it's the only way to get Malloy back, I'll live with it. n/m

[patrioticliberal]

23. I don't have XM, so it would be necessary

Unless Jones also picks him up.

[patrioticliberal]

6. a note on Flanders, RoscoeT

MALLOY SAID SHE WAS REPLACING HIM *HIMSELF*

[Rosco T.]

9. And on Laura's blog... her producer said "not so"....

found it...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2040798&mesg_id=2040798

Laura and the weekday

Dear bloggers. While the rumor mill is spinning. We have been told absolutely nothing about moving to the week, let alone to replace Mike Malloy in his late night slot. We were as shocked as everyone about Malloy, who is a kindred spirit. Everything else really is speculation. AAR management is making changes, but the last we've been told we're staying in our weekend perch.
by Steve Rosenfeld at September 2, 2006 - 7:25pm

that's why I find it all very 'suspicious'.

[Garbo 2004]

10. Link to relevant blog post here:

http://www.airamerica.com/lauraflanders/node/3140#comment-227174

[patrioticliberal]

13. Why is Malloy going around and saying Flanders is replacing then?

[Rosco T.]

15. Maybe that's only what he's been TOLD...

all the answer I got.

[B Calm]

7. I was outside today doing yard work and thinking about Malloy.

I was pondering about Mike going syndicated. You laid out a clear message on how it could be done! Great post!!

[w4rma]

11. Do you know why there is so much from Fox News on XM Radio?

It's because Rupert Murdoch/News Corp. bought Direct TV and XM Radio.

[Name removed]

12. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[w4rma]

16. I'm not lying but I may be mistaken. Murdoch seems to have sold XM in 2004

January through March: with the sale of Hughes Electronics from General Motors to Rupert Murdoch's News Corp., DirecTV's interest in XM Satellite Radio is sold off on the market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM_Satellite_Radio

[Name removed]

17. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[w4rma]

20. Don't go off the handle. I'm not trolling and I'm not a liar. (nt)

[ginnyinWI]

18. I wouldn't trust wikipedia as an only source

Here's some info from XM's site, and you can click around to get more:
http://www.xmradio.com/corporate_info/fast_facts.html

[Rosco T.]

19. I don't 'trust' wiki as the only souce.. it is simply the simplest...

.. compliation of the events. And your link does NOTHING to refute the information.

[Rosco T.]

21. enough of this distraction.. back to MALLOY please n/m

[Maat]

24. I'm on it, Rosco! (n/t)

[patrioticliberal]

25. kickypoo

[patrioticliberal]

26. Poster at Malloy's board

"I contacted XM , i used their online form since their is no direct contact for 167 . i called but got panama city Panama so there was no point in talking there , the young fellow never heard of AAR ."

[Pab Sungenis]

28. Okay, a few basic responses.

(1) You dragged Ed Schultz into this, not me. He's not a progressive. He's not even any kind of a liberal. He's a registered Republican trying to ride the current wave of anti-Bush sentiment. He rode the hype created by the launch of AAR to his current "stardom." He's not on our side. Despite what you say, fuck him.

(2) "Air America" as used by me is not Rachel, Randi, Sam, Thom, Lynn, Pap, RFKJr, or any of the other hosts. It's the people in charge, the same ones who silenced Mike. Fuck them.

(3) I won't even go into Al Franken, but fuck him, too.

(4) I have my own problems with Sirius. I remember back when the whole world here was defending Sirius saying "AAR made the decision." Yes, AAR made the decision (as you confirmed in your post) because Sirius left them in a corner with no other choice. So fuck them.

All that said....

(5) I'll gladly join any letter writing campaign to get Mike back on the air, especially in a venue where he can be himself all he wants.

Anyone who has a problem with (1) through (4), that's your perogrative. Anyone who has a problem with (5), fuck them.

[Rosco T.]

29. Small retort to #1

I won't argue with your position on Ed. However, he can be useful in this battle because, no matter how you feel, to a vast number of people he IS perceived as being a 'liberal'. Add to that the screw job he's getting by Clear Channel and the words of Sun Tzu come to mind.

[Pab Sungenis]

31. I prefer Shaka the Zulu to Sun Tzu in this matter.

"Never leave an enemy behind, or he will rise up again to grab at your throat."

[bahrbearian]

56. Again you amaze me.. pabsungenis

I'm am sure Mike would agree.. I now am taking that perspective... but with Jesus teachings convert them to Love.

[Pab Sungenis]

63. Of course Jesus tells us to love our enemies.

But he never told us to trust them.

[hlthe2b]

30. Rational and well thought out strategy..... I only wish...

there were thought to getting Marc Maron back on as well. I miss having a bit of intelligent "funny" with my politics.

I definitely want Mike Malloy to have a voice--it is truly cathartic. But, for me, at least, I also need a bit of intelligent humor, or I'll go nuts...

Damn, AAR just seems determined to stab themselves in the foot...

[patrioticliberal]

32. stephanie miller is good.

she's off all week though, Elayne Boosler and Dennis Blair are filling in

[hlthe2b]

33. I'll have to see if I can webcast her...

I've typically had AAR via XM on all day in the office... I've heard that she is funny, though..

[patrioticliberal]

35. At her website stephaniemiller.com

Or KTLK

http://gundam100.liquidviewer.net/sms?MSWMExt=.asf

It's 9AM-12PM EST

[peaches2003]

36. Thanks, Roscoe T.

It's nice to read that there is something going on and some options for action. After the initial reaction to Mike's firing it has tailed off over the weekend and I've felt lost.

QUESTION: Only 2 weeks from today the new schedule is supposed to happen. Is there any word at all (official or rumor) on 5-9 AM (surely not Mark R. for the whole 4 hours), is Sam definetely going 9-Noon and if so is JSpringer gone completely (I can only hope so) and then what about Mike's 10-1 AM slot? If not Laura (I hope not), who? Personally I'd like to hear Thom Hartmann on tape then than anything other suggestion I've heard.

There must be some pretty solid rumors if nothing else.

XM Talk Radio 165 or another Progressive channel needs Mike, Stephanie, Thom and I know there are others.

[patrioticliberal]

37. Just rumor

That Sam would take that slot. No definite. He could simply be lied to like they lied to Mike.

[peaches2003]

39. How true

Every night last week after Mike's firing Sam made reference to being pissed about what had happened. He is the ONLY on-air person who said anything, as far as I know, though the rest of the regulars were all sent on vacation last week, by coincidence, I'm sure. Sam's remarks, though brief, may have been the kiss of death for him. But I was proud of him for having the guts to say what he did.

[Rosco T.]

40. I'm waiting with baited breath for Hurricane Randi to blow in tomorrow....

should be 'interesting'.

[bdamomma]

41. yes, it should be interesting what Randi will say if she says

anything at all, she has to watch her back also, but I am sure she'll give it notice.

[patrioticliberal]

42. I think if she says anything, it'll be vague.

[Rosco T.]

38. The only even close to 'official' word that has come out is...

Randi is going drop 1 hour (making a three hour slot)
Rachel taking the 6-8p slot.

All else...

Springer leaving
Sam taking Springer's slot (9-noon)
Young Turks taking 6-9a (taped?)
Eco-Talk & Politically Direct taking 8-10 (live? taped?)

is rumor and inunedo... noting solid or close to confirmation (with the possible exception of Sam.. he's sorta said he's taking an earlier slot).

[patrioticliberal]

43. Sam posted it on his official blog

The new slot. Yes, the actual time, and it's correct. But that's just what he's told. He could drive to work and get a phone call saying Yer fired too.

[Pab Sungenis]

64. Uh, huh. And Mike announced that he was back on in NYC

and had a new two-year contract. Don't believe it until you hear it.

[Nikki Stone 1]

44. Thanks, Roscoe!

You clearly did a lot of work here and I appreciate it. I'll send some emails.

Just a stupid question: If Mike were to get syndicated by Jones, is there anywhere else he could go besides XM?

[grmamo]

45. It isn't stupid question. Rosco Thanks have been hoping for more.

I don't know rules involved with each entity but don't want to see Mike silenced in any way. I don't want streaming prevented or archives no longer available. My only access is by stream and I know I am not the only one.

[Nikki Stone 1]

47. It will be the same here if he goes on satellite radio

That's why I wonder if Jones could maybe put him on somewhere--even if it were late night, overnight (like Art Bell used to be.)

[patrioticliberal]

62. hm

[Nikki Stone 1]

66. Or an internet stream somewhere

...

[Rosco T.]

46. If Mike were syndicated by Jones...

- he could be 'over the air' only (and maybe streaming from a station)
- he could be on XM
- he could be on Sirius
- he could be on any combination of the above

[Nikki Stone 1]

48. Crossing fingers for Mike. And thanks again, Roscoe

I've been away for a couple of days and my first question was what was happening with Mike. I can't believe AAR is just letting that decision stand. I wonder if Kevin Martin's FCC threatened a huge fine if Malloy wasn't removed.

[B Calm]

72. I like the idea of Malloy being syndicated!

[clbuck]

49. I have a feeling about Jones Radio...

They seem to be a more traditional radio syndication company (like Premiere, Talk Radio Network, Westwood One, etc.) than AAR is, and is I think, better run. I don't believe they really care about the political leaning of their hosts, as long as they are entertaining and get good ratings.

Schultz, even though he's a somewhat of a centrist with some slight conservative tendencies, is still better than a full-blown right winger. And Stephanie Miller is very progressive, although her show is comedy-oriented.

If Mike is entertaining enough, and can get good enough ratings for Jones to make it profitable, then he may indeed go that route.

[hlthe2b]

50. XM just ran an announcement re: Malloy (7:50 PM Monday MT)

I was listening to 122-CNN with the Irwin interview on Larry King and a commercial announcement came on about scheduling changes specific to Mike Malloy no long being heard from 10-1, a "AAR decision."

Appparently XM is getting bombarded with complaints and wanted to make sure people knew to focus their comments to AAR, not XM... Interesting...

[Rosco T.]

51. Damn.. I forgot to mention that one...

http://www.xmradio.com/lineup/

Air America:

Please note that Mike Malloy's show is no longer available on Air America. If you have a question or comment you can contact Air America at [e-mail]


oh yeah.. they're getting hammered... keep it up folks.. you're showing just how VALUABLE Malloy is to XM...

[johnfunk]

52. Oopsie! Looks like the airamerica.com webmaster didn't get the memo...

... here's a screenshot from Monday, Sept. 4, 2006 at 10:00PM, and look what's being flogged...

{div align=center]

[Rosco T.]

53. Of couse, we're now getting Thom Hartman??

was this his show from earlier today?

[rucky]

54. Can somebody please post the contact info?

it would be a big help

[patrioticliberal]

55. why the fuck is not fucking on top?

[ReverendDeuce]

57. I like SIRIUS Left more than AAR anyway...

But I am not one of the "fuck AAR" crowd at all. I just like SIRIUS's left wing programming and talent more. <shrug>

[patrioticliberal]

58. Yeah. Honestly I say write Sirius AND XM

[Duer 157099]

59. Thanks RT

I hope Mike lands somewhere soon, but I'll probably not be able to listen -- I only listened to the archives from White Rose. I had XM for awhile, but it just didn't work for me.

If Mike comes back to XM, I suppose there's a chance I'll revisit that option, with different hardware so that it works for my listening style.

My local AAR affiliate is driving me a little nuts with some of their programming decisions.

I'll drop a note to XM and tell them I'll consider re-subscribing if they bring Mike on board.

[dweller]

60. Soup for everyone

I like the Jones Network idea for Malloy since i am an AM listener of 1360 (chapel hill) and get Steph, Al Franken, Ed Schultz, and then Randi and at one time Malloy late nite, with only a small segment of local programming interspersed throughout.

:kick: and rec!

dp

oh yeah, don't discount Big Ed. I've been listening to him for quite awhile, and i sometimes wonder if he's just using a bit of psychological ploy to appear to be 'just not convinced and let's open the lines to let you have a say about it' to draw in the disgruntled blue collar worker, hunter, fisher, good old boy that everyone assumes is Repug but is liberal, and fed up with the state of the union and wants to say their piece about it. I know i have heard many, many of them plainly, and honestly express their opinion on Ed's show, and he gives them an open mike. Ed will just as quickly shut down a ranting bushbot after a few moments of spew. I admit he's no Malloy, but then many of the middle of the road don't listen to Malloy, but will listen to Ed esp. if he gives them the airtime to just say what's on their mind and thank them for it.

We really have to keep the big picture in mind, from all ends of the spectrum.

:thumbsup: for your thread.

[bbgrunt]

61. Thanks, Roscoe, I have already written xm

but what is gmail?

[grizmaster]

65. Who let the sensible guy in?

Great post Roscoe. This is the first I've seen that not only sorts out the back story, but shows some options to move this forward as positively as possible.

[Janice325]

67. Thanks for all your info, Rosco T.

I can't quite follow your "history lessons" (I'll have to reread it several times, I think, to get the big picture), but I appreciate your being such a voice of reason about Mike while so many folks (including myself) are going about in so many directions.
Your comment: "waitaminute asshole.. that's 110% you cry." really cracked me up! :rofl:
Looking forward to further info from you.
Thanks again, Rosco!
k&r

[patrioticliberal]

68. kick

[Rosco T.]

70. History Lessons - Cliff Notes Versions...

Lesson #1 - Given the past treatment of AAR and Left programming, and their programming choices in general, XM is far more likely to add Left programming and/or another Left Channel than Sirius is.

Lesson #2 - XM is PISSED at Clear Channel for their ham-handed way of programming the channels, and since Ed Schultz is caught up in it (having his live show chopped to 1 hour), no matter how you feel about Schultz, he can be a useful lever, not only for getting a new channel, but to rub a little salt in the wound of XM to get them even more riled against Clear Channel. (ie. Clear Channel dicking with Big Eddie is making subscribers MAD.. so they need to do something to make us (subs) happy again).

Just two pieces of the puzzle that make up the big picture and show where the landscape is 'ripe' to use to our (the left) advantage.

[patrioticliberal]

71. Don't rule out Sirius

Just don't. (See your pm)

[patrioticliberal]

69. bump