You GOTTA love David Gregory. Bitch slaps Tony Snow

[BigBearJohn]

Newsman to Tony Snow: 'Don't Point Your Finger At Me!'


http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003087485

This exchange followed.
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Q Actually, Tony, I don't think that's fair, if you look at the facts. If you look at the facts.

MR. SNOW: Well, I do, because -- no, because, for instance --

Q No, no, no. No, I don't think you should be able to just wipe that, kind of dismiss the question --

MR. SNOW: Well, let me --

Q It's not a Democratic argument, Tony.

MR. SNOW: Let me answer the question, David.

Q But hold on, let's not let you get away with saying that's a Democratic argument.

MR. SNOW: Okay, let me -- let's not let you get away with being rude. Let me just answer the question, and you can come back at me.

Q Excuse me. Don't point your finger at me. I'm not being rude.

MR. SNOW: Yes, you are.

Q Don't try to dismiss me as making a Democratic argument, Tony, when I'm speaking fact.

MR. SNOW: Well, okay -- well, no --

Q You can do that to the Democrats; don't do it to me.

[helderheid]

1. OK, I can do that. Recommended

[thereismore]

2. Keith has so much material these days! Snow reminds me of Frankenstein.

[C_U_L8R]

20. kinda sounds like frankenstein too

eeeaaaaaaaghhhhwwwwaaaaarrrffffwwppppttttt

[Botany]

3. people need to remember that Snow was an acive Freeper

more polished than Puffy McMoon-Face aka Scott McClellen but he
is a true believer in King Bush & his crew.

[Fridays Child]

4. You can do that to the Democrats; don't do it to me?

It's nice to see him smack Tony down but WTF was THAT supposed to mean?

[Lautremont]

5. He's just asserting his journalistic impartiality.

I doubt it's a slight against Democrats or a distancing from them.

[Fridays Child]

8. I see. Yes, I think you're right.

:)

[LSparkle]

12. Yes -- and reminding Snow that there IS an objective TRUTH out there

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own FACTS."

GO FOR IT, GREGORY!!!

[SlavesandBulldozers]

28. yep.

any disagreement with Bush is an attack by the Democrats.

Once you peel that away, as Gregory is doing, Republicans are in BIG FUCKING TROUBLE. Snow knows that, especially having come from Faux.

[magellan]

9. He's saying the Dems let Snow/BushCo get away with it

...but he isn't going to stand idly by and take it.

[Maven]

32. Actually, I took it as a compliment to Dems

In other words, Democrats present facts and get told they're biased arguments.

[pacalo]

6. Yes, I do love David Gregory when he opens the curtain to reveal the hype.

[hippiechick]

7. "You can do that to the Democrats" ?????

:wtf: Uhh, maybe he does but he shouldn't and its our "media's" job to keep discourse in this country on an even and civil playing field, IMO.

[fooj]

16. I read that the very same way!

[SlavesandBulldozers]

29. uh. he's right.

You CAN do that to the Democrats. Because they're fucking wimps, with few exceptions who are easily marginalized! They've taken this shit for YEARS NOW AND ASKED FOR MORE! He's absolutely right on so many levels its not even funny!

[progressoid]

37. Yep, what you said. eom

[npincus]

44. I wouldn't parse those words

I don't interpret it as Gregory giving him license to do so ("do that to Democrats"), but acknowledgemnet of the fact the he DOES do that to Dems. It's a figure of speech I've used myself... usually when I'm pissed off.

[Recursion]

49. I thought his point was...

...that one political figure pointing fingers at the other party is kind of how politics works, but they shouldn't be antagonistic towards the press like they are towards the opposition.

[AndyA]

10. Recommended. I wish other journalists would get on board.

The current (mis)adminstration needs to be nailed to the wall on the issues, instead of being allowed to step around them.

We need more people like Helen Thomas and David Gregory.

[LuckyLib]

35. ITA. Those lapdogs in the press corpse just can't bring themselves to

tell it like it is. It's the PROCESS that the Repubs control -- calling up down, black white. They need to be called on it each and every time. The press needs a mantra that they all repeat, something like "That does not square with the facts, Tony." Til he hears it 47 times in each press conference, and so do the American people!

[bluerum]

11. Harder David, harder! Spank me harder! nt

[SlavesandBulldozers]

30. lol

seriously.

[emmadoggy]

50. ROFLMAO!!

:spank: :spank: :spank:

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

13. snow constantly talks down to reporters!

[rodeodance]

17. Here is an excerpt from Snow's remarks:

Here is an excerpt from Snow's remarks:

"There have been some in the Democratic Party who have argued against the Patriot Act, against the terror surveillance program, against Guantanamo. In other words, there are some people who say that we shouldn't fight the war, we should not detain -- we shouldn't apprehend al Qaeda, we shouldn't detain al Qaeda, we shouldn't question al Qaeda, and we shouldn't listen to al Qaeda. In other words, they're all for winning the war on terror, but they're all against -- they're against providing the tools for winning that war.

"And we think it's a perfect opportunity for Democratic leaders to say, no, we are serious about winning the war. We have now reiterated some of the basic precepts of administration policy and also the policy put together by generals over the months of the engagement in Iraq. And we look forward to working with members of Congress to figure out how best to prevent terrorists from coming here, but, more importantly, how to defeat terrorism.

"Finally, one other point, which is, there is a reiteration of a call to replace or have Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld stand down. The President strongly supports the Defense Secretary. It's not going to happen. Creating Don Rumsfeld as a boogeyman may make for good politics, but would make for a lousy strategy at this time. And, furthermore, if you listen to the speech that Secretary Rumsfeld gave last week, it was not only thoughtful, but comprehensive about trying to frame the ongoing war against terror, and also the war going on in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"So this, again, is something that the President would love to see members of both Houses of Congress returning to that sense of cooperation we had after September 11th, where the real goal was not to try to hand out pink slips at the Pentagon, but instead to win the war on terror in a way that is going to make not only America safer, but also the rest of the world safer so that democracy can take firm root throughout the globe."

[Straight Shooter]

24. "There have been some ..." "some people say ..."

What a crock! No one has said that, and I challenge Tony Snow to name any prominent or even semi-prominent Democrat who has even come close to embracing those positions he's putting out there.

Snow is a liar. L-I-A-R. Some people say it, and the facts back us up.

[annabanana]

26. It's a veritable army of straw men!! One right after the other...

All lined up, ready to take their hit..

He should NEVER be allowed to use this cheap trick.

[Amonester]

40. "so that democracy can take firm root throughout the globe."

Tony Snowman must be kidding (but he's not funny). His "kind" of democracy, called plutocracy, is destroying our "kind" of democracy, called popular, every minute of each day that passes by, and it's also destroying this planet and the future of all human beings as well. :grr:

plutocracy
n. pl. plutocracies
1. Government by the wealthy.
2. A wealthy class that controls a government.
3. A government or state in which the wealthy rule.

(GOP = Gangsters Of PNAC)
(Tyranny, Dictatorship using signing statements)


popular
Function: adjective
1 : of or relating to the general public
2 a : of, relating to, or by the people (as of a nation or state) as a whole as distinguished from a specific class or group b : based on or alleged to be based on the will of the people

(We, The People)
(Checks And Balances = Freedom)

[emmadoggy]

52. Yes, this part really chaps my ass...

So this, again, is something that the President would love to see members of both Houses of Congress returning to that sense of cooperation we had after September 11th, where the real goal was not to try to hand out pink slips at the Pentagon, but instead to win the war on terror in a way that is going to make not only America safer, but also the rest of the world safer so that democracy can take firm root throughout the globe."

In other words, just forget about your disagreement or dissent with our chosen policies and plans and just bow down and go along with everything we want to do. It's our way or the highway and you should just accept that.

Well, THEY should just accept the fact that they will NEVER AGAIN have the level of cooperation they had after 9/11 - because they don't DESERVE it! Dream on, suckas, because we want our country back and a real democracy again and we're not going to sit back and make your job of destroying the world easier for you! :mad:

[stepnw1f]

34. David Gregory Called Him On His Bullshitting Tactics

From here on, he will be ineffectual.

[peaches2003]

14. The problem is Helen and David

can't do this on their own. Do the rest of the WH press really like to be insulted everyday by this creep? Seems like the WH and the Repugs have forgotten they are our employees and the press' job is to get the truth.

Unfortunately most of the press has forgotten it, too, and prefers to be buddies with this Bush crowd and laugh at Tony and Bush's little jokes. How demeaning to let Bush call you by a nickname that is no more than a frat boy putdown because he has the power to insult people.

[blondeatlast]

41. "Do the rest of the WH press really like to be insulted everyday..."

Yes, as long as they are getting face time and cushy corporate paychecks, you better believe they like cozying up to Tony Snow White and the Seven Admina-Dwarves.

Read Helen Thomas' latest book, "Watchdogs of Democracy?" (note the question mark at the end.)

She's none too happy with her colleagues lately.

[Fridays Child]

15. Snow goes on to say, "the idea that somehow we're staying the course...

...is just wrong. It is absolutely wrong."

Do I smell a backfired meme? Are they now divorcing themselves from their pet mantra of "stay the course?"

Oh lordy, that flip-flop is even too big for Paul Bunyan to wear to the beach. :rofl:

[Lautremont]

21. I noticed that too.

Haven't they been gabbling on for years that "staying the course" is the only option, and those who think otherwise are cretinous traitors?

[Fridays Child]

22. Presto, bingo!

Evidently, though, the meme has suddenly become toxic. And, in that regard, what a foolish thing it was for Tony to say. It only shines the spotlight on GOP hypocrisy.

[Jo March]

33. It's now "adapt for change" or some such crap

Some other DUer can help me out here - it's "adapt and win" or some other crock of crap. They are totally distancing themselves from "stay the course." Now they are saying that they totally are against staying the course. :eyes:

[Jacobin]

47. Oh, my!! We're not 'staying the course' anymore?

That's 'absolutely wrong?"

Which course are we on now?

:rofl:

:rofl:

[Felinity]

48. I think I heard Bush say stay the course yesterday.

Time for medication change, forgetting talking points. Maybe we are now "staying the new course of adapt and win."

[cally]

18. I hate the corporate media..notice that it's a total slap at Democrats

Gregory doesn't want to have a Democratic argument. Yeah, Gregory is one of the better journalists out there but even he is freaked out about using a Democratic argument. :argh:

[blogslut]

19. Tony Snow

...accused David Gregory of being partial as opposed to impartial. Them's fighting words to a real journalist. Good for Grogory!

[phylny]

23. I want journalists to begin to hold the administrations' spokespeople

accountable for what they say.

"Some democrats...."

"WHO? Which democrats said that? Name names."

This is the same crap they've always done. "Some people say."

WHO? What people?

[Beaverhausen]

27. I agree. Wouldn't that be wonderful?

:hi:

[cassiepriam]

25. I am a Dem and I pay Snow's salary. He'll answer my questions too.

[Synnical]

31. Sweet - Go David!

And he's kinda hot, too.
http://www.alspi.com/reunion/Photos/Gregory,-David.jpg
http://www.alspi.com/reunion/Photos/Gregory,David-2.jpg

NO, not that one, this one:



:)

[bridgit]

36. someone needed to...

[jazzjunkysue]

38. Gregory's got stones. Real ones. Very , very rare.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

39. absolutely

Gregory's a real standout. He and Thomas. aside from them, that room is empty.

[Kurovski]

42. K&R!(nt)

[liberaldemocrat7]

43. Meanwhile

[omega minimo]

45. Wouldn't that be a "dickslap"?

[sjr5740]

46. Steve Doocy is a total idiot

Can't even read the word Tendentious and probably doesn't know what it means. :shrug:

I suspect the man got like a 300 on his SATs.

Maybe he should take vocabulary lessons from Tony 'Fauxnews' Snowjob.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200609060002

Oh and BTW ED Hill sez she's a democrat. lol

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2003-08-17-fox-am_x.htm

Mirroring Fox News' overall style, the talk here is blunt. But the rap against Fox — that it leans decidedly right politically — is hard to attach to the hosts of F&F. Hill says she's a "primary-voting Democrat"; Doocy says the only time he got involved in politics, years ago in his native Kansas, was to support a man who favored universal health care. The candidate lost.

[autorank]

51. rofl...little of their own treatment. Three cheers and K&R n/t

[emmadoggy]

53. Blowing a kiss to David.

Thanks, David. :* :loveya: