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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:46 PM
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Uh, no. Ed Shultz is wrong. This is not the Conservative F-911.
I'm sorry, but that's a fucking insult to Michael Moore and F-911.

First of all, F-911 was a documentary. Moore used real news clips and talked to the real people. He had the guts to go confront the real politicians. He used real events, and presented them in the format that he is known best for. He has been doing the same thing since "Roger and Me"

Path is a fucking movie. It's paid actors, it's written with a script, and it is based loosely on events that transpired with a blatant neo-con propaganda slant. Does anyone think that Cyrus Nowrasteh and the rest of these chicken shit screen writers and producers would actually have the guts to walk up to Bill Clinton and confront him about ignoring terrorists like he accuses him of? Or Madeleine Albright? Or Sandy Berger? Hell these chickenshit bastards don't even want to let them WATCH it must less actually show some stones and act like a real documentary film maker.

And just in case anyone forgot, the neo-cons already came out with their attempt at a rebuttal to F-911 using a documentary format and facts. Dollars to donuts I'll bet only 1 in 10 americans actually know what it was really called because it was so weak, and lacking in any real content.


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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:47 PM
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1. no, he's correct
This movie is to conservatives what F9/11 was to the left.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:56 PM
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10. They had their rebuttal documentary.
It was called Faith in the White House. And no one remembers it because it sucked.

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Drewskie Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:05 AM
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43. ...
Hmm thought you might of meant Celsius 41.11.

The title did'nt come to me til now.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:57 PM
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11. But in CONTENT, the OP is right.
F 9/11 was a documentary.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:28 PM
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26. That's right.
And this path to 9/11 mockumentary shit probably IS a "documentary" to repukes, because it's full of the lies they love so much.

I mean, how on earth could you face yourself in the bathroom mirror (maybe that's Rove's secret - he doesn't have an image) without lying to yourself constantly?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:38 PM
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20. Don't kid yourself; Conservatives know full well it's a pack of lies.
It's simply that they feel lies are more important for their interests than truth.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:45 PM
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21. Except Disney bailed on F 9/11
And paid $20,000,000 for this piece of crap to be broadcast on OUR airwaves as if it were an objective true story. That's the difference.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:50 PM
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30. But ABC refused to show "Ours" because they said
it was too close to elections, and it was too political.... Go figure :shrug:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 06:16 PM
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38. With an exception
F-911 was factual, Path contains quite a bit of false information.

No one will argue that a lot of people disagreed with what Michael Moore said and depicted in his documentary, but he told the truth.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:15 AM
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44. It seems that's not what Shultz is saying
"Path to 9-11 is the Conservative F-911"

versus

"This movie is to conservatives what F9/11 was to the left"
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:49 PM
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2. other than support for workers,
Ed Schultz is always wrong
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:50 PM
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3. Isn't that the truth
I can't wait until Sirius replaces Ed Shultz with Mike Malloy. Wouldn't that be great.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:51 PM
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5. that would rock
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:04 PM
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17. I have always stood up for Ed Schultz because he supports unions and
labor.

I am going to have a tough time standing up for him now.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:51 PM
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4. In order to make a case against Clinton, they had to make up an
event that never happened. To make a case against bush one need only grab the nearest video tape of him . They know that.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:51 PM
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6. Call him and tell him, just like you told us
because you did a good job of explaining the difference here.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:54 PM
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7. Ed Shulltz is a DLC shill
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:57 PM
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13. DING DING
Fuck him... I can't stand him.
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Drewskie Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:27 PM
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19. DLC
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:54 PM
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8. Turn Schultz off
You'll be glad you did.
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:57 PM
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12. Amen to that!
What a friggin fat blowhard. He's bucking to be in the same league with Limpballs.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:59 PM
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15. I know. I already did.
I always last about three minutes into one of his monologues, and shut him off. I turn it back on when it's time for Randi though.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:55 PM
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9. Schultz is a moron on this issue.
F9-11 was factual, this mockudrama is fiction.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:58 PM
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14. You coulda stopped at:
he's a moron.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:46 PM
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22. almost no one is bereft of value IMO
I disagree with Schultz on many issues, on thus vehemently because his analogy is faulty, but he is a strong worker/labor advocate and comes at BushCo pretty strong.

I don't like summarily kicking someone to the curb just because I don't agree with them. He is respectful in his discourse and I appreciate that.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:06 PM
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18. Moron.
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:03 PM
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16. Moore's film did NOT go out over the publicly owned airwaves;
Moore's film was NOT promoted as a teaching tool by Scholastic;
that's two differences.
Replace all radio entertainers with a good book on tape. A recent one. Not 1984.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:30 PM
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28. Moore's wasn't FICTION either.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:48 PM
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23. I can't listen to him
He is nothing but a RW hack--regardless of what he claims to be.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:53 PM
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24. My god, boy do I ever miss Malloy. He was the real thing!
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The Revolution Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:25 PM
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25. That sounds right
I mean, the right-wing version of F-911 wouldn't be a factual documentary, it would be a ball of lies designed to mislead people, which is what 'Path' is. The right-wing version of F-911 wouldn't follow our standards (evidence, truth, etc.) It would follow their own (lies, wild accusations, etc). So this is their version of F-911.

There have been other 'conservative F-911s' before, but this one is actually generating some controversy, while the others were just completely ignored by pretty much everyone. So calling the the conservative F-911 sounds right to me.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:49 PM
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29. But this is being broadcast on ABC!
Not a movie you have to go to or a dvd you have to buy!
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 05:45 PM
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34. How dare you! ;-)
Geez, people, enough with the Ed-hate. Whatever happened to tolerance of differing opinions and all that good stuff?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:29 PM
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27. I think Ed is a mole.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:51 PM
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31. F-9/11 Was fact, while Path to 9/11 is a bald-faced lie
n/t.
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RandiRhodesArchives Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:56 PM
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 05:50 PM
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35. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 05:52 PM
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36. Oh, and hey...
I would LOVE to listen to Randi on KQKE, but they delay her by four freaking hours. One so the morning guys don't have to get up too early and three so they can play Schultz. I'm back to streaming (which, unfortunately, is difficult for me on Mondays).
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 05:02 PM
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33. schultz is running as an "independent" on this issue
:D
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 06:13 PM
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37. Ed Shultz, uninformed?!
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 06:13 PM by Kitsune
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. :sarcasm:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 06:39 PM
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39. That sounds like a right-wing talking point.
Gives this docufairytale a certain amount of legitimacy.

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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 07:26 PM
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40. He's a right-winger!
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 07:27 PM by B Calm
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 07:31 PM
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41. Sorry, I thought we were talking about an AAR personality.
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 07:31 PM by tuvor
I'm not able to listen to the station that much.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:22 AM
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45. We are.. AAR is slowly turning into another right-wing network for
more advertisement profits!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 07:56 PM
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42. You are absolutely correct. F-911 was truth!!!

I heard Ed blowbag Shultz today and thought the exact same thing.

The guy does more harm than good ferrchrissakes.

I wish I could get someone else at this time slot, but I have no choice. I tune in for a few minutes before Randi every day.

He makes me crazy.

:crazy:
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