And dump the news while we're talking about the ABC 9/11 Propaganda!

[hootinholler]

So * has fucking admitted he broke international and US law and we're talking about the ABC 9/11 Propaganda!

My point isn't to complain about those threads, bless them, it needs talking about. My point is while we're spinning like tail chasing puppies over the movie, Shrubie has pulled the mother of all news dumps.

Pretty shrewd for an incompetent administration, eh? While speechifying the other day, he owned up to and defended the practice of Extroadinary Rendition. Said it makes us safer.

We have at least:

1: 13 CIA agents under indictment in Italy for the practice.

2: An admission to the approval of waterboarding which any reputable ethecist will classify it as torture as it has been since like 1500AD or so.

3: An opinion of the U.S. Supreme Court that states the practice of torture is illegal under U.S. and International law.

Now here's what you do:

First, please go sign the petition.

Second, get your ass to DC on the 17th, it's a Sunday. Find out how much it costs to charter a bus. Put up ads, tell friends the per seat cost, ask them to pay for a seat and come along or donate. If we can get 50 busses, that's 2500 of us at 50 per bus. If you do the trip in 2 days, according to this chart, that's about $2000/bus or $40/head. A day trip is about half.

Third, help me assert the U.S. Constitution, make some noise and add to Camp Democracy!

I've had enough! Nobody is investigating this shit! No one is prosecuting this shit! Shame on all you motherfuckers for wiping your ass with instead of defending the principles you have sworn an oath to defend! When do Geroge, Dick and Ronald get rendered somewhere? I'm thinking the Hague, but I'll settle for Leavenworth.

This shit just really pisses me off. I will be on The Mall Sept 17th. You be there too. Organize a bus.
-Hoot

[Junkdrawer]

1. It gets worse....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2070962&mesg_id=2070962

[hootinholler]

3. They've said they were going to do this.

Raises some interesting constitutional questions it does.

-Hoot

[One Voice]

2. kick......n/t

[hootinholler]

5. If we can fill 500 busses, that's 25000!

Are there 500 towns within a day trip of DC that can fill a bus? One lousy bus per town.

-Hoot

[Junkdrawer]

4. K&R...n/t

[Solly Mack]

6. recommended!

[bonito]

7. Kick!!! Let's rock!

[bleever]

8. There's a reason that * needs change the laws after the fact.

Great post, hoot.

Sorry I can't sign the petition again!

[hootinholler]

9. Why can't we get Howard to call for this?

Why hasn't he called for a grand Jury?

Why hasn't Reid? Pelosi?

Who is allowed to bring evidence to a Grand Jury? Can a citizen bring evidence? I'm sure the Founders wanted it that way.

-Hoot

[Hissyspit]

10. kick

[hootinholler]

11. Thanks you're always kind to my posts. n/t

[merh]

12. links on the secret CIA Prisons and torture admissions

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2065331

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2076441

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2069780

[hootinholler]

13. Thanks for those.

No one seems interested.

-Hoot

[merh]

14. I am disappointed in the care about these issues too.

Hopefully the docudramafictionfuss will quiet down soon and other issues will get folks attention. Not that the path taken against "the path" is wrong, I just don't know why it has to be all consuming. Too many news dumps this week have been overshadowed, imho.

:hi:

[hootinholler]

15. I've been so spectacularly unsuccessful in getting signatures...

For over a month now. I've actually gotten more recs that signatures, go figure.

I have to wonder if america is not ready to assert the constitution or is it me?

-Hoot

[merh]

16. I think it truly is scandal fatigue

too many scandals, too many lies, too many blatant violations.

Folks heads are spinning, which way do we turn and which one do we focus on.

:shrug:

[hootinholler]

17. It could be...

If only we could pick one. That's why I chose the ones they've publicly admitted to. We need them to either go to trial or pardon someone for this shit.

-Hoot

[wildbilln864]

18. This is a ...

must kick thread!

[EFerrari]

19. I don't know how I managed to miss this thread.

Thanks for keeping the faith, hoot.

(Hi, merh!)

:kick:

[devilgrrl]

20. The "Netvocates" keep DU distracted very well don't they?

They must pay well. :sarcasm: