Let's tally up which Wars were won by Dems vs. Reeps --

[elehhhhna]

Civil War- won by Libs( though shared with the Liberal GOP of the 1860's).

WW1- Dems

WW2- Dems

Korea- neither a win nor loss for either side.

Vietnam- Oops, both sides lost that one.

Bosnia- Dems

Kosovo- Dems



Grenada (LOL) Reeps

[Richardo]

1. Are you Bob Dole?

"All the wars in this century have been Democrat wars." :eyes:

[elehhhhna]

7. Hey Richardo! Been awhile! I'm not Bob Dole, but Bob & I have at least

one thing in common -- I'm a woman, so neither of us can get an erection.

Dems did not "start" WW1, or WW2...etc. I know you get my point.

[Richardo]

13. LOL! No amount of viagara will help ya, huh?

That's hilarious.

I just don't like the whole 'assigning wars to political parties' thing. :shrug:

[elehhhhna]

30. Got it. I don't like the whole Bush Admin. thing, but

facts are facts. We can't opinionize them away.

[enigma000]

2. You could conclude that wars are started by Dems

An old saying I heard:

Republicans get us into recessions

Democrats get us into wars

[CBGLuthier]

6. That was the saying before the family Bush

They want it all. Wars and recessions.

[elehhhhna]

8. All the wars in THIS century have been started by REEPS.

It's a brave new millenium.

[enigma000]

12. That's true, a brave new Millennium

But other than the Gulf War, most of the other 20th century wars have started under Democratic administrations.

Edit: Sp.

[cspanlovr]

3. How about the Revolutionary War. Those guys were radicals.

Came up with all that Bill of Rights crap and the Constitution. Junior loves to fart in its general direction.

[Minimus]

4. How many did Dems start? And for what reasons?

[elehhhhna]

9. Didn't you know that Hitler & the Japanese were registered Dems?

[jdlh8894]

11. Hitler started a war against the US?

I guess I need to find a new history book.

[Richardo]

15. Yes you do.

Dec 7, 1941 - Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor; Hitler issues the Night and Fog decree.

Dec 8, 1941 - United States and Britain declare war on Japan.

Dec 11, 1941 - Germany declares war on the United States.


ergo, Hitler started a war with the US.

[enigma000]

18. Bad move for Germany

but Adolph was a dolt sometimes.

So why did the US get into WWI? That was an American decision.

[Richardo]

21. Sinking of the Lusitania was what we were told in school.

On May 7, 1915 the Lusitania was torpedoed by a German submarine, the U-20. The Lusitania sank after a subsequent massive internal explosion blew out her starboard bow. The sinking galvanized American opinion against Germany's policy of unrestricted submarine warfare and played a role in the United States' later entry into World War I on April 17, 1917.

wikipedia.

[enigma000]

25. It took two years to declare war?

Must have been other reasons......didn't take this in school.....

[Richardo]

26. I'm telling you that's what they told us...

...I was just a KID, fer crying out loud. :cry:

[enigma000]

27. Sorry...sorry....

Just asking....I believe you......my minor was in European History, so we skipped the US part.

Now next question: What are your opinions of each of Wilson's 14 points? ;)

:hi:

[Richardo]

28. He pulled Point 7 right out of his butt

:)

[enigma000]

29. LOL

:rofl:

[jdlh8894]

20. Don't find anything about the US

http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/document/NIGHTFOG.htm

[Richardo]

22. That's not a declaration of war. See December 11, 1941.

:eyes:

[jdlh8894]

23. Mea Culpa

Thanks.

[Minimus]

17. Iraq started a war against the US?

[enigma000]

19. Not that Hitler, the other Hitler n/t

[Minimus]

14. I'm surprised that the right-wingers haven't spread that around.

:crazy:

[elehhhhna]

31. It's easier (lazier) for them to link us to OBL & call us Hezbocrats.

[CBGLuthier]

16. Depends upon viewpoint of course but

Let's see.

WWI Wilson, Democrat. We didn't start the war. We joined it rather late.
WWII Roosevelt, Democrat. See above.
Korea. Not considered a war officially but we know better. Sadly, Truman, a Democrat.

Vietnam. Hard to peg. I think some advisors were there under IKE. When exactly the war began would be hard to say. Generally though Johnson, Democrat, gets the blame for that one.

Spanish American War, McKinley, Republican.
Gulf War I, Bush Republican.
Grenada "War" Reagan, Republican
Panama Invasion (and massacre) Bush, Republican
Afghanistan, Bush, Republican
Gulf War II Bush, Republican.

And then there are Somalia and Bosnia, Bush and Clinto respectively, and I am suddenly too tired to go on.

We are a warring people for sure.

[Minimus]

24. It doesn't appear that Dems are guilty of "cut and run". That's for sure.

[genie_weenie]

5. Nobody wins in war

People lose, some people lose more than others...

"Winning in War" is just statist propaganda to keep the People in line and slaves of the State...

[enigma000]

10. You make a good point

Wars are never complete victories

Civil War- next 100 years of 2nd class citizenship for African-Americans

WW1- Inconclusive victory, global balance of power wrecked, rise of communism and fascism

WW2- Occupation of Eastern Europe by the USSR

Korea- armistice line right where the old border was

Vietnam- negotiated tie. Lost in overtime

Bosnia- Still under EU/NATO occupation

Kosovo- Still under EU/NATO occupation

Gulf War - That's a win according to the stated pre-war goals. Saddam stayed in power