"Path to 9/11" produced by RW activists: goal to "transform Hollywood"

[EarlG]

This morning, an interview with Harvey Keitel (who stars in "The Path to 9/11") http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2817179">reveals the following:

Keitel: Yea, I had questions about events – material I was given in the Path to 9/11 that I did raise questions about. Yes, I had some conflicts there.

Q: How was that met?

Keitel: With discussion... ummm with argument. When I received the script it said ABC history project – I took it to be exactly what they presented to me. History – and that facts were correct. It turned out not all the facts were correct and ABC set about trying to heal that problem. In some instances it was too late because we had begun.

Yesterday, DUer shewhomustbeobeyed discovered that David Cunningham, director of "The Path to 9/11," is the son of Loren Cunningham, founder of the worldwide evangelical group Youth With a Mission.

Youth With a Mission has an "auxiliary branch" called The Film Institute.

Members of The Film Institute write:

TFI's first project is a doozy: simply being referred to as: The Untitled History Project, it is already being called the television event of the decade and not one second has been put to film yet. Talk about great expectations!

Our goal is to help filmmakers, actors, technicians, etc. realize their God given potential and purpose in perhaps the most influential sphere of modern culture - film and television.

Here's more information on the "Untitled History Project":

Our next big project is to assist in the development of the new YWAM auxiliary - The Film Institute (TFI). The Film Institute is dedicated to a Godly transformation and revolution TO and THROUGH the Film and Television industry;

TO it, by serving, living humbly with integrity in what is often a world driven by selfish ambition, power an money - transforming lives from within, and THROUGH it, by creating relevant and evocative content which promotes Godly principles of Truth married with Love.

The Untitled History Project Begins Production July 25th.

Mysteriously, the pages containing those quotes - which were freely available on the Internet until yesterday - have been deleted. Here are links to the now-deleted originals:

http://www.markandkrista.com/4559.html
http://www.markandkrista.com/30257.html

Fortunately Google's cache has preserved these pages. See here and http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:F_obhKIYfPsJ:www.markandkrista.com/30257.html+%22creating+relevant+and+evocative+content%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1">here.

A WhoIs search reveals that markandkrista.com is registered to Mark Harris at Youth With a Mission. Last year Mark Harris spoke at Youth With a Mission's "Viva Latin America conference."

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:o5hYSP9psF0J:ywamconnect.com/sites/Founders/ywamReports%3Fmultcontentitemid%3D186211+%22mark+harris%22+%22the+film+institute%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2">Here's a snip from the report:

Mark Harris spoke following Braulia and showed a DVD clip by film director David L. Cunningham, who together with others has formed a YWAM auxiliary called The Film Institute (TFI). One goal of TFI is to fast-track UofN School of Digital Film interns, placing them within the film industry, not to give them jobs, but so that they can begin to impact and transform Hollywood from the inside out.

UofN is University of the Nations - Youth With a Mission's "global training network."

UPDATE ONE

From mhatrw:

At the moment, ABC officials are calling the miniseries "Untitled Commission Report" and producers refer to it as the "Untitled History Project."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163964,00.html

But it's being filmed relatively quietly. No production announcement has been made, and it's being shot around town under the nondescript working-title "Untitled History Project."

http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2005/07/27/1148853.html

UHP Productions will be on site filming a miniseries starring Harvey Keitel (of Reservoir Dogs, and Pulp Fiction fame), Patricia Heaton (best known as Debra Barone from Everybody Loves Raymond), and former “New Kid On the Block”, Donnie Wahlberg. The production is currently referred to as the Untitled History Project.

http://www.myhamilton.ca/myhamilton/CityandGovernment/NewsandPublications/NewsReleases/2005News/September/05-09-20.htm

Who are "UHP Productions"? IMDB lists them as only producing one movie:

http://www.imdb.com/company/co0163444

UHP Productions doesn't even appear to have a website. I'm guessing "UHP" stands for "Untitled History Project."

UPDATE TWO

From markam:

UHP Productions is a corporation registered in California:

UHP PRODUCTIONS, INC.
Number: C2727420 Date Filed: 3/24/2005 Status: active
Jurisdiction: California
Address
2400 WEST ALAMEDA AVE
BURBANK, CA 91521

Agent for Service of Process
MARSHA L REED
500 SOUTH BUENA VISTA ST
BURBANK, CA 91521-0105

Marsha L. Reed was (at least as of March 14 2005) http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:vSz0vBbgtnYJ:uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/pr%3Fs%3DDIS+%22marsha+l+reed%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5&lr=lang_en">Disney's Corporate Secretary.

500 South Buena Vista St, Burbank, CA, is the address of Walt Disney corporate headquarters.

2400 West Alameda Avenue, Burbank, has a Google Maps listing but no search results explaining what's at that address.

Further searching reveals that 2400 Alameda Avenue, Burbank, is - http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:w27BLaM0RlUJ:www.gregfree.com/Western%2520European%2520Postal%2520History/List%2520-%2520Europe%2520-%2520Western.html+%222400+Alameda+Avenue%22+ca&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2&lr=lang_en">or at least was in 1946 - a Disney office.

Serious question, because I honestly don't know the answer: is it common practice to create a "ghost production company" in order to conceal who is really making a particular movie?


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Meanwhile I notice that despite ABC's backtracking, a full page ad for "The Path to 9/11" which appeared today in the Cedar Rapids Gazette is emblazoned with the tag line: "Based on the 9/11 Commission Report."

That's it. None of ABC's recent ass-covering disclaimers like "The Path to 9/11 is a dramatization, not a documentary, drawn from a variety of sources, including the 9/11 commission report, other published materials and from personal interviews."

No mention of the fact that one of those sources, John Miller, is currently a member of the Bush administration working as assistant director of public affairs for the FBI.

And no mention in the ad that this movie is a dramatization.

Nope, according to their advertising campaign, "The Path to 9/11" is "Based on the 9/11 Commission Report" and features "The years that led up to it. Everything that might have prevented it."

ABC knows exactly what they're doing, and their reassurances over the past couple of days mean nothing. They know that the movie is propaganda created by an agenda-driven organization, they know it contains blatant lies, and they're going ahead full steam with their plan to use the anniversary of the deaths of 3,000 people to broadcast their smear campaign over the public airwaves.

Think this is outrageous? Well, you must just be a Clintonista.

[Cooley Hurd]

1. It's pretty blatant...

For shame, ABC. I'm old enough to remember this:

[BrotherBuzz]

19. I'm old enough to remember that, and even test patterns, but we have....

a new breed of sheep viewers that never got beyond....



:shrug:

[kpete]

2. I fear you are right...

and no matter what happens in the next few days, the film is already out there - propaganda

Makes me ill...

[Karenina]

10. AND the "study materials" are in the classrooms...

...

[jwirr]

99. One bit of comfort here is that the teachers are not pro-*ss and

many of them will not use the garbage on this issue.

[Bonobo]

3. Great investigative work! K&R! Very, very scary, depressing stuff.

I'm chilled actually and I thought I was beyond that...

:scared: :scared:

[lpbk2713]

4. No matter how they paint it .....

the true colors still shine through. ABC/Disney will suffer more PR damage over this than they ever anticipated. Heads will roll.

[Avalux]

5. Great post - of course they've known all along.

Even the actors were misled - Harvey Keitel was told it was an "untitled history project" based on the 9/11 report and it wasn't until filming was well underway that he realized it wasn't historical. And now we're being told Bush wants to do a pre-game warm up speech for the film. Could this get any more rediculous?

[Felinity]

9. Harvey K could file suit

If this hurts his reputation, which it probably will, I think he has a lawsuit against ABC for contracting his services under false pretenses. Any lawyers out there?

[brentblack]

34. Harvey K's Reputation

I am not sure if this will sully his reputation that much considering his other roles.

Bad Lieutenant - shows his tackle (got more balls than me...literally) , rapes a girl, kills multiple people
The Piano - not too bad of a guy, but again...he shows us his tackle
Last Temptation of Christ - He was Judas, can't get much worse than that.

His reputation will be fine, but I am sure he appreciates you thinking of him.

[ClintonTyree]

54. But he knew going in that those were scenes he'd have to play.

He wasn't misled or lied to. The Directors told him exactly what he'd be required to do and he knew up-front he'd be showing his "naughty bits".

THIS piece of shit, on the other hand, is a total sham. He was told he'd be acting in an "historical" drama. What he didn't know was that history was being rewritten by these Reich-Wing neo-cons for this piece of garbage.

:shrug: Who knows? Maybe he'd have a case, maybe he wouldn't, but the publicity alone would be worth the effort. Nailing Disney/ABC to the wall for perpetrating a lie would certainly make my day.

[Ignis]

88. But this PoS is being marketed as near-Truth by ABC.

In that case, we're talking about the actor's reputation in a different area: Pseudo-Documentary.

But really, just because you get to see an actor's private parts in a role doesn't mean his reputation has hit bottom. :eyes: We're talking about how his reputation would be impacted by being associated with a piece of right-wing propaganda.

[Ken Burch]

91. So he didn't show his tackle in "Last Temptation"?

Even in the "betrayed with a kiss" scene?
You'd have to admit that WOULD have been worse.

Seriously, I've long had the impression that Keitel, while a great actor, was a total bastard. Never knew he would do right wing propaganda films as well. I hope he was just fooled.

[peacetalksforall]

61. Someone should file a lawsuit in order to get the 'who'. Who ...

>who presented it to ABC?
>how was it presented to them?
>were the above people revealed to them?
>did whoever is behind this go to Disney first?
>did Disney steer it? who led?
>who funded it - who put up the money - was it a gift to Disney/ABC - paid by these Christians?
>did any of these Christians work for free or below union wages?
>what was the communication between the RNC/WH and ABC or Disney or a middleman?
>was the middle person someone like Gingrich or Falwell or a character like Karen Hughes? or was it someone like Shaffley? Heston?

Most importantly - who gave all the little authorizations and what precisely was the coordination with the WH/RNC or any of the other organizations like the one who hired and sponsered Jeff Gannon?

If Keitel didn't know more than that it was a history project, can it be called a conspiracy/trap to get a big name in cinema?

[janx]

6. Oh man.

We have no media. They were bad before, but this means that we have no neutral media. How can we trust any one of them?

[dogday]

7. Make no mistake there is a mandate here

Not only the movie, but the spreading of the word of the movie, and the access they are allowing of it... This movie is not true and it is trying to change history and then shove it down our kids throats like it happened...

This took time, money, planning and politics, make no mistake about it.....

[yorkiemommie1]

75. so true

it makes me sick to my stomach.

when will we all be required to carry a 'little red book' like they did in red china?

[Armstead]

8. Oh Jeeze. The plot sickens.

[blogslut]

11. Clintonista?

John Cochran should be ashamed.

[SideshowScott]

125. I am OUTRAGED that they would call us " Clintonista"

ABC/Disney's true colors just came out with no doubt with that line. I many even stop watching ESPN as well. As a football fan that will be a tough one but im thinking that I might just do that. Its really not that shocking if you think about it. John Stossel still has a job there.

[Hubert Flottz]

12. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."

"The Film Institute is dedicated to a Godly transformation and revolution"

I wonder which "God" they serve, when they lie to an entire nation?

[ClintonTyree]

57. The God of money and power........

the same God all the Republicans serve. Their bastardized version of "God" in no way resembles the God of either Testament. Money and power are their deities and they'll do anything to appease them.

These people are sickening. They give religion a bad name.

[Ken Burch]

93. Or, as the lyrics of a song put it...

"the God of greed who feeds the rich while poor men starve".

-Leon Rosselson, "The World Turned Upside Down".

[comtec]

128. BEWARE THE GOLDEN CALF!

or was it a cow, I always forget the specifics.

Point being, Moses is going to be REALLY pissed OFF... oh wait he is whore-shopping the golden calf too! (Heston that is)

I really don't know how any of these holy rollers hold onto their 'flocks' of the poor. I suppose they never read the important, moral bits of the bible, like the 10 commandments!

I decided to read through the bible (King James I'm afraid) cover to cover... and lots of audio book usage :). For two reasons, I'm mildly religious, human nature. and two I wanted to see what these faracies (I haven't clue one how to spell that) are always thumping their bibles about.

Turns out... it's pretty fucked up! But I guess that's blindingly evident now.

[Raffi Ella]

13. ...

The height of FASCISM

[originalpckelly]

14. It now makes sense why someone do a hit on Clinton...

these people sound like super-Evangelicals, and they probably didn't take to kindly to what he did. You think they would just give up, but I guess some people don't learn.

[Ian_rd]

15. We need a master list of relevations regarding this fiasco

Please place on the front page - this is another relevant piece of information.

[mhatrw]

16. More on the fundy bankrollers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2073411

Thanks for pulling all this together in one concise and cogent post, EarlG.

[Justice Is Comin]

17. That's what they needed all along was the hook.

The reference to the 9-11 report gives them that hook to lure the audience. Uniformed people would have reason to feel it should be accurate.

The pressure that has now forced them to the point of running a disclaimer doesn't do anything. It's merely a cosmetic camouflage legalese attempt to cover their ass from being sued for electronic libel.

However, one cannot say I'm not going to hit you with this bat, and then crack you with it. Courts abhor that subliminal attempt to get around the law.

No more than any merchant can have a huge sign in his business that says no cash refunds and then proceed to sell you patently defective merchandise. He can shove that sign up his ass because a court would make him refund the money.

ABC has been advised, warned, threatened and told in implicit unambiguos terms that they are about to libel and ex president and his administration who are now private citizens. It has even generated a warning from the entire minority party of the U.S. Senate. There can be no claim of good faith excusable error.


If ABC airs this, they have pulled the pin on this grenade and it's going to make history how big the explosion will be for Disney, ABC, and all it's sponsors, as well as stockholders.

You can bet there are some high level meetings going on right now. Very, very, very high.

[MallRat]

18. Wow. You ought to go to NBC and CBS with this.

Smoking gun proof that ABC is in the throes of an evangelical Christian media group with a penchant for revisionist history.

Go ahead and tell me that CBS and NBC wouldn't want to beat the shit out of ABC over this.

Sic one corporate giant on another.

[Raffi Ella]

21. good idea

this needs to be flung far and wide for all to see.

[ClintonTyree]

60. But isn't it a shame they're not doing this themselves?

We have to rely on bloggers for the truth in our world? The Corporate Media is officially in the pockets of the Reich-Wing. Everything. All of it. We can trust nothing from the media. The fascists control it all and we as a country are screwed royally because of it.

[peacetalksforall]

71. Mallrat. I don't think it works like that anymore. There's no competition

anymore. They are all in partnership with the WH. They share and they have no problems whatsoever in crediting, interviewing, pimping their competitors on their programs. The way I see it, there is only one thing unique between them - and that is NBC's obsession with citizen crime. They are particularly obsessed with celebrity and child crime, plus prisons (while FOX is obsessed with California car chases).

I can see cutting costs by sharing or selling feed, but the propaganda and crossover of content is proof.

As to Dems, they only interview DLC honchos, Biden, Lieberman (as a Dem in the past), and a very few others - once in awhile.

It is all tediously boring and damaging. They are all dominated by pressure brought to the WH by evangelicals.

Remember - when FOX started taking off, CNN (whose previous objectivity was pretty well recognized) sent their key honcho to the WH (PNAC regime) and ASKED the WH what they could do to get some of the privileges given to FOX (well documented).

I say there is NO competition between them as far as policy and pimping. There may be small stuff going on for sponsors. They are not at war with each other.

Do you know of any advertisors who aren't on all the networks?

[Imagevision]

86. We need someone to make a path to the path of 9-11...!

[Hugin]

20. Thanks for summing it up EarlG.

In my 40 some odd years on this Earth I have never seen such
a blatant piece of partisan propaganda as this is turning out
to be.

Unbelievable.

[deucemagnet]

22. Disgusting.

I'm at a loss for words. Just disgusting.

[mikelgb]

23. this is the time this is the place

we have to take these fuckers down now

thay have become brazen in their attempts lately

it does not bode well

[Sydnie]

24. If they keep on this path, their logo will go from this

to this



Clinton and the others that were misrepresented will own them.

They are lap dogs for this admin and for those that would wish to turn us into a theocracy as well.

They are the UNamerican Broadcasting Company if they go through with this.

[peacetalksforall]

73. What a concept. Win a lawsuit and finally own a Democratic network.

A chance for people to find out what fair and balanced really means.

[mhatrw]

25. Yes, they are DEFINITELY one and the same!

The Untitled History Project = The Path to 9/11

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163964,00.html

http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2005/07/27/1148853.html

http://www.myhamilton.ca/myhamilton/CityandGovernment/NewsandPublications/NewsReleases/2005News/September/05-09-20.htm

http://www.superiorpics.com/patricia_heaton

More:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2073411&mesg_id=2073411

[EarlG]

31. Thanks, I added that info

Great research.

[mhatrw]

33. Cool. I just wanted you to know you were not out on a limb.

Everybody in the television industry knows that "Untitled History Project" = "The Path to 9/11"

This was a huge and costly project in terms of television productions.

A few more links:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:MouDdiaXUdQJ:thoreast.com

Shane Daly, recent and upcoming work: Finished a supporting role in ESPN's
Codebreakers starring Scott Glenn and is set to shoot a supporting role in
"Untitled History Project", a mini-series on the events leading up to 9/11.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0326176/bio

Carl Goldstein has just finished directing the Image Campaigns for CSI NY and CSI Miami for CBS. He directed the 2nd Unit in New York and Washington,DC for the widely anticipated Untitled History Project, a $40 million dollar mini-series on 9/11 for Touchstone Television. The television event will air on ABC in September 2006.

http://www.dailynews.com/celebrities/ci_3269487

If all goes as planned, Donnie Wahlberg reports he'll go from the currently filming "Untitled History Project" miniseries about the events leading up to 9-11 to shooting his own TV pilot early next year.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=34011943

The Untitled History Project now has a title: "The Path to 9/11". It also has air dates: Sunday, Sept. 10 and Monday, Sept. 11 from 8-11pm both nights.

[Gman]

35. Absolutely friggin' BUSTED!

Great work all!

[Initech]

26. This is getting weirder and weirder...

The "Path To 9/11" seems like it's tailor made for right-wing fundie brainwashing.

[jwirr]

100. I would suspect that is exactly what it is meant to do. They are

aware they have lost much of their base and this is meant to bring them back. We will see just how many are willing to be misled again. Wake up rw fundies "God does not lie."

[dapper]

27. K&R, will definately send out to the Bush Bots

I love to piss off my Bush Bot relatives/friends. I'm sure this will do the trick. :-)

Dap

[grizmaster]

28. great research, I'll be passing it on

through every email address I can find for ABC and the rest.

[Nikki Stone 1]

29. We need a map to keep track of all these propaganistic organizations

Thanks for this thread. K & R

[helderheid]

30. GET THIS TO KO AND JON STEWERT PRONTO

[Generic Other]

32. Clintonistas! They make it sound like an STD

What slime DUers have uncovered!! Amazing.

[KoKo]

63. Maybe it's a play on "Sandonistas." n/t

[Kablooie]

36. Here is proof from Variety Magazine

Posted: Wed., Jul. 27, 2005, 10:00pm PT

ABC finds its heroes
Alphabet's 9/11 mini under way in Toronto

By JOSEF ADALIAN

ABC is taking the wraps off its 9/11 commission report miniseries, tapping Harvey Keitel to star and David L. CunninghamDavid L. Cunningham ("To End All Wars""To End All Wars") to direct the Marc PlattMarc Platt-produced project.

Lensing has begun in Toronto on what's expected to be a three-month shoot for the as-yet-untitled six-hour miniseries, which is budgeted at $30 million-$40 million and expected to air during the upcoming season. Cyrus NowrastehCyrus Nowrasteh ("Into the West") wrote the script.

...

ABC EntertainmentABC Entertainment prexyprexy Steve McPherson said the net will treat the 9/11 mini differently than a regular longform project, comparing it to seminal ABC pic "The Day After."

"That was such an important movie for a lot of people, and it wasn't about entertainment," he said. "It was about putting out a message, and this falls into the vein of things you do because you think they can be valuable."

Platt said his miniseries will not be a Hollywood-style overdramatization of the events leading to 9/11.

Stranger than fiction

"If you read the report, sadly, it reads like fiction," he said. "It's riveting and compelling just based on the facts. One need not bring anything more to it. The events speak for themselves."


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This article came out on July 27 2005.
The Untitled History Project started shooting July 25.

[The Witch]

41. "It wasn't about entertainment... it was about putting out a message."

A message. Mm-hmm. An AGENDA, to coin a phrase.

[keepCAblue]

64. "If you read the report, sadly, it reads like fiction," he said.

"um, well, er, maybe that's cuz IT IS fiction.

[jakefrep]

78. "The Day After" was a cheesy piece of shit...

...as I expect "The Path to 9/11" will be.

[Ken Burch]

92. And "The Day After" had whatever antinuclear content within it wiped out

by having an on-camera post-film discussion that ABC deliberately allowed the hard-line cold warriors to dominate.

[friendly_iconoclast]

37. Here's another interesting link re: TPT911 and YWAM

From: http://www.discussanything.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95309

via Google (here's the cache in case it gets pulled cache

sorry for formatting, it's my 1st post



The Path to 9/11

As some of you know, I've been doing some classes and work with Youth With A Mission for a couple years now. The founder of YWAM's son, David Cunningham, is a filmmaker and he is the director of this film, The Path to 9/11.

As a matter of fact, when I was in Kona not too long ago (I think it was last year) David Cunningham was at the University of the Nations campus and I got to see him speak about the movie, as well as some other YWAMers who worked with him as interns on this film. It was cool to hear some stories about the filming and how the Christians working with David had a chance to be a positive presence, for others working on the film. There was a concern back then that the network might change things, since ultimately they're the ones who can have the final say. I remember that we were asked to pray that things didn't end up getting changed too much, or left out... I'm not sure how it all ended up, but hopefully it was good.

I just got this group email today, reminding everyone to watch the movie...here it is:


Dear Friends,

Please see the following link and spread the word to watch the movie I directed - THE PATH TO 9/11 on ABC – September 10th and 11th. It is a multi part film – not a documentary - on the events leading up to 9/11. It is told from the CIA, FBI, White House and terrorists' perspective and based upon the 9/11 Commission Report.

It is starring Harvey Keitel, Patricia Heaton, Donnie Whalberg and a fantastic cast of almost 250 actors from 14 countries. We filmed in Toronto, Morocco, New York, Washington D.C., and one of only a few films ever to be allowed to film at the CIA headquarters at Langley. I have spend a year and half working on this show along with an amazing team of filmmakers.

We need your help to spread the word as there are so many 9/11 TV shows out there. Please send this to everyone you know and be sure to check out the link. Together we can make this a cultural even that will impact the nation.

Thanks a bunch,
David

http://abc.go.com/movies/thepathto911/index.html


Like I said, I haven't heard that much about it, but I will definitely be watching it, so watch it!

[ClintonTyree]

67. Welcome to DU........

:hi: But I'm not going to waste my time watching this revisionist crapola.

"I remember that we were asked to pray that things didn't end up getting changed too much, or left out... I'm not sure how it all ended up, but hopefully it was good."

These people are freaking sick! :puke: Like god is going to micro-manage the world to a point where he/she/it would take a great interest if this POS is edited or not. :eyes: And they call US "moonbats"! :rofl: These people have REALLY drunk too much Kool-Aid.

[flyarm]

102. and one of only a few films ever to be allowed to film at the CIA headquar

"and one of only a few films ever to be allowed to film at the CIA headquarters at Langley"

DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THIS?????????

OH REALLY..AND JUST HOW WAS THAT ARRANGED?? KARL ROVE PERHAPS??????????

SO JUST WHO THE FUCK SET THIS UP..CAN WE FIND OUT FROM FOIA????????

fly

[The Witch]

38. OMG. This needs to get to MSM ASAP. If UHP = Path, sounds like it is...

it is blatantly obvious that this organization planned to get their message across.

How far is "Untitled History" from "Revisionist History?" or "Rewritten History?" This is shocking.

[orleans]

39. K&R & bookmarked n/t

[keepCAblue]

40. Related links re: The Film Institute and David L. Cunningham

Found this myspace page through a google search:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=93172058

No direct references, but the page references "The Film Institute" and "David L.Cunningham" as well as "The Path to 9/11":

Website: 24framesoflight.com

Influences: David McFadzean, Ralph Winter, David L. Cunningham, Penelope L. Foster, John Ames, Olivia Chang, Keith Garcia, Bruce Ladd, Sanford Meisner, Uta Hagen, Robert McKee

Professional Affiliations: The Film Institute, BaldSound, Pray For Rain Pictures Inc.

Comment on this myspace page:

8/29/2006 11:34 AM
Check this out!
Directed by David L. Cunningham
http://abc.go.com/movies/thepathto911/

ABC has announced the synopsis for it's 2-night, 5-hour movie The Path to 9/11 airing Sunday, September 10 (8:00-11:00 p.m. PT/ET) and Monday, September 11 (8:00-10:02 p.m. , PT/ET):

Note -- This dramatization is based on The 9/11 Commission Report and other published sources and personal interviews. Composite and representative characters and incidents, and time compression have been used for dramatic purposes. Due to subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. These programs carry a TV-14, V parental guideline.

******************************

The website, "24framesoflight.com" yields the following links on their "links" page, most of which point to Christian/Evangelistic film or acting sites at the University of Nations (Kona, Hawaii), a Christian mega-university whose mission is:

In response to Jesus' commands (Matt.22:37-38;28:18-20) and the desperate need for biblical transformation of peoples and nations, the U of N Kona is called to equip servant leaders in the seven spheres of society (education, family, business/science & technology, government, religion, media, arts & entertainment).

School of Digital Filmmaking: http://www.uofnkona.edu/com/sdf.html
School of Acting for the Screen: http://www.uofnkona.edu/com/acting.html
The Film Institute: http://www.thefilminstitute.org/

David L. Cunningham, director of Path to 9/11, is apparently a former student of the University of the Nation's School of Digital Filmaking (SDF). On the SDF webpage, he is quoted:

What the students have to say:
"I learned the foundation and the basis for my career and my calling. Without this spiritual foundation and without the practical tools I was given, I would not have been able to go through the process of making a film. I constantly go back to what I l learned at UofN and apply those principles."
David Cunningham, director of the motion pictures "Beyond Paradise", "To End All Wars" and "Little House in the Prairie" miniseries.

David L. Cunningham's father, Loren Cunningham founded YWAM. Loren Cunningham had this to say about the University of the Nations founder,

"I cannot imagine the University of the Nations without Howard...I admire him as a man of God with sterling character and deep commitment, as well as excellent gifts to help fulfill Christ's mandate through the U of N." (Apparently, "Christ's mandate" includes training young disciples in film and television so that they can "transform" these industries.

Also note the Hawaii connection between Mark and Krista (whose relevent web pages have suddenly been scrubbed of any references to the "Untitled History Project") and The University of the Nations and the School of Digital Filmmaking and David L. Cunningham (who was raised on the big island of Hawaii, where the University of the Nations is located).

Note, too, that the 24framesoflight.com's link to The Film Institute points to a directory page only--apparently the website is password protected -- another sign of the secrecy surrounding their agenda and their projects.

[DTinAZ]

62. the MySpace link

I found the same MySpace URL, but here's a slightly improved/direct link:

http://www.myspace.com/24framesoflight

In addition to the "Path to 9/11" comment on the page, there's another one from a "Margret" (7/26/2006 4:27 PM) -

Hi everyone, miss you guys- soon we will be neighbours again (maybe some time before Christmas) I am still in LA, still working on 9/11. Ben's in Seattle, then Europe. Make some more good films.

I'd say that the evidence posted so far in this topic indicates heavy involvement by Loren Cunningham's "Youth With A Mission" in this project.

DT

[mhatrw]

42. You keep making this post better and better.

Great job, EarlG.

The fundy activists who funded this "secret project" just couldn't help but brag about it to their fundy donors. Busted!

Furthermore, consider that in the summer of 2004, Disney (ABC & ESPN) prohibited the distrubution Fahrenheit 9/11 because it "politicized 9/11" in an election year. In contrast, Disney has decided to broadcast the radical evangelical group funded The Path To 9/11 without commercials on network TV on the (day before and) fifth anniversary of 9/11 this year, much closer to an election than when they forbid distribution of a $120 million grossing domestic motion picture release just two years earlier.

[symbolman]

43. When I was watching the 700 Club about 10 years ago

a cold chill ran up my spine when they had a little commercial that said, "You can be a CameraMan for God.."

I suddenly realised that it's not just the News, etc. the guy that AIMS the camera is in charge of REALITY for most people.

Of course in College in the 80's I told one of my pals that in 20 years the US would be "goose Stepping for Jesus" all over the world while drunk.

I was only off by a few years. From the Camalot Presidency to the Mocky Mouse Un-Prezidency in 10 easy steps.

Congrats to all the hard working folks who dug this info up, this reminds me of the ancient DU days, you had to start your modem up with a Pull Rope, but once you got to the DU, it was pure heaven :)

Thanks EarlG! Passing it along,

[cally]

44. It's worse than I imagined

Thanks for the research.

[myrna minx]

45. This is great research.

:toast:

[underpants]

46. Welcome to the era of the "New Truth"

because the old truth just made things oh so bothersome.

[VOX]

47. Who put up the heavy cash for the network air time for TPT9/11?

Excellent summary, EarlG! :patriot:

In addition, this right-wing crap is being presented without commercials.

Has anyone done any research yet into who is picking up the tab for two night's worth of network air time?

[VOX]

51. Answer to own query: ABC itself, out of "respect." (?????)

No link -- this is from a Lexis-Nexis search.
Daily Variety
September 5, 2006 Tuesday
ABC has decided the best sponsor for its upcoming Sept. 11 mini is no sponsor at all.
After originally announcing its intention to air "The Path to 9/11" with limited commercial interruption, the network now will air both parts of the $30 million Harvey Keitel starrer without any advertising.

SECTION: NEWS; Pg. 1
LENGTH: 559 words
HEADLINE: ABC SETS AD-FREE '9/11'
BYLINE: JOSEF ADALIAN
BODY:
What's more, the Alphabet will potentially limit its backend profits by allowing consumers to download the complete miniseries --- for free --- via Apple's iTunes Music Store. Mini also will be streamed for free via ABC.com, and XM Radio has pacted with the network to make an audiocast of the film available to its subscribers.
ABC Entertainment prexy Steve McPherson said the commercial-free strategy was the most appropriate route to take with this project.
"We looked at different scenarios (and) talked to possible (advertising) partners, and none of it made sense," McPherson said. "This is the most respectful way to present this."
McPherson isn't hiding the fact that ABC's sales department had conversations with advertisers about sponsoring the project in exchange for a select few commercial pods. That strategy has been used in the past when series episodes or movies have been deemed too sensitive for traditional sponsorship.
The first time ABC aired "Saving Private Ryan," it did so sans commercials thanks to a sponsorship deal with Ford. Automaker struck a similar deal backing NBC's broadcast of "Schindler's List."
McPherson said ABC "investigated whether there were any partnerships to be had" with several companies, including ABC parent Walt Disney.
"The creative was so limiting, in the end we didn't think it was appropriate," he said.
McPherson said by offering the show for free on iTunes and via streaming video on ABC.com, the net hoped to expose as many people as possible to the findings of the 9/11 Commission, whose report forms the basis of the mini's script.
"By giving it this platform and by dramatizing it, we'll get more people to get that information," he said. "We spent $30 million on this and we're putting it on without commercials. How important we think this is speaks for itself."
ABC said the last time it aired a broadcast with neither commercials nor sponsorship was shortly after Sept. 11, 2001, when it --- and numerous other nets --- aired the "Tribute to Heroes" fund-raiser.
Because "Path to 9/11" will air without sponsorship, whatever audience it attracts won't be officially recorded by Nielsen.
To spread the word about "Path to 9/11," ABC is sending 100,000 high school educators a letter from 9/11 Commission co-chair Tom Keane informing them of the various platforms on which the mini is available. ABC and Scholastic have pacted to produce an online study guide.
Because the miniseries' actual length is less than the six-hour, two-night block in which it's scheduled to run, ABC has had to make other plans to fill the time following the conclusions of both parts.
ABC News has already prepared a special documentary hosted by Charlie Gibson to air following the end of night two of the mini, just after 10 p.m. on Sept. 11. Alphabet is still finalizing plans for the roughly 10 minutes of airtime left at the conclusion of night one, on Sept. 10.
Marc Platt exec produced "The Path to 9/11," with Cyrus Nowrasteh writing the script. David L. Cunningham directed.

[bobthedrummer]

48. This archived thread is useful for researchers.

Reality vs. perception management: The tinfoil controversy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x71919#top

GOP connections to religious RW link
http://4religious-right.info/

Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives link
http://www.mediatransparency.org/story.php?storyID=143

[cannonfire]

49. Is YWAM "spooked up"?

I want to congratulate whoever first made this catch. This is one of the very best peices of reporting ever done by bloggers or DU posters. Just incredibly good work.

We must investigate every molecule of YWAM. The Rick Ross page offers too many tantalyzing leads:

http://www.rickross.com/reference/youth/youth6.html

In the 1980s, a mainstream Christian periodical called "The Christian Century" offered up several persuasive exposes of missionary organizations which had wittingly allowed the CIA to use their groups as "cover" in the third world. Christian Children's Fund -- yeah, the folks that Sally Struthers used to shill for -- was one such group. I do not recall if those articles ever mentioned YWAM, but just look at the group's background. Can you honestly tell me that this does NOT sound spooky?

"In 1987, six white YWAM missionaries were held captive by RENAMO (a South African backed guerrilla force) after several attempts, they were "rescued". It is unclear whether they were kidnapped, or "removed for their own protection" by RENAMO. "News reports indicated an alliance between elements of the Christian Right and RENAMO (pages 198-200)."" (The quote-within-a-quote refers to a book by Sara Diamond.)

And:

"Further political involvement is evident through a meeting (June 1982) with an aide to Rios Montt, former dictator of Guatemala and a small group of so-called "Christian Right" leaders. This group included Loren Cunningham, head of YWAM. Montt was a leader in Gospel Outreach's Guatemalan Verbo Church. Gospel Outreach is based in California."

Rios Montt was installed by the CIA; his government killed thousands of people, mostly of Mayan ancestry. His religious mania and his ties to California were well-known at the time. What we need is to look at ties between YWAM and Gospel Outreach.

Consider this: YWAM quickly spread all over the world in the early 1960s -- inlcuding places that American intelligence wanted and needed to penetrate -- and NO-ONE KNOWS WHERE THE MONEY CAME FROM.

Consider this, as well: "The Path to 9/11" is one of the few film productions (I can think of only two others, offhand) allowed to film in CIA headquarters.

YWAM, run by a guy who wants to trash democracy in favor of theocracy, somehow got the cash and the "pull" to produce an expensive miniseries and to talk Disney into running it sans commercials. That does not happen by accident. How does a mere missionary group -- one which not long ago paid missionaries only 7 bucks a week -- get that kind of money and that kind of juice?

[mhatrw]

65. Thanks for the compliment.

I think your blog is great.

Here's the initial post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2073411

I was in such a hurry to share my "discovery" that I got the title of the miniseries wrong. Considering how quickly the critical links were yanked from the site once I exposed them, perhaps my rush was justified.

Here's some more information about YWAM that I found on a "deep politics" message board I like:

http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=5991.topic

[The Magistrate]

90. In All Fairness, Sir

The original exposure of the matter is here, and all further work seems to key off from it:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2071734


Dragging something like "rigorous intuition" into the matter, by the way, is most foolish, as anything encountered in such venues, to put it as mildly as possible, takes on a poisonous and pernicious tinge from the company it is found in. This is a real and serious matter, and the certifiably eligible for extended vacations at state expense really ought to keep, and be kept, out of it.

[mhatrw]

97. Actually, I just found a dailykos diary that predates all these.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/7/02114/57497

It proves two things. Great minds think alike, and sometimes finding something first isn't as important as somehow getting what you found widely noticed. That what makes the community effort that is DU so great.

I had not seen SheWhoMustBeObeyed's great post or MarkinNC's great dk diary when I simply googled "Untitled History Project" yesterday to see where it would lead.

However, within hours of making my post about the MarkandKrista site's "Path To 9/11" reference, a number of contributing DUers cross-pollinated the discoveries such that most of the points in this great post that EarlG made this morning (and that he has been wonderfully updating all day) were beginning to become clear. That's what makes this place special.

As for Rigorous Intuition, it is what it is -- speculations about deep politics and para-politics. Looking at it in that light, I personally think it often makes for interesting reading. You (and anybody else reading this) are certainly free to give the site and its message board as little or as much credence as you wish.

[armodem08]

50. i love the web knowledge of the fundies.

They just delete it from the web and assume it's fixed. But no, no no, be have Google's cache! Boo-ya!
That serves them right.
This whole thing is quite complicated. I think it speaks volumes of DU and other sites that we have discovered this before it actually airs.
The conspiracies that the fundies come up with are so 2-dimensional. (i.e: they fall apart once people look deeper.)

[jwirr]

103. I think they learned their lessons of "truth" from the USSR. When

they wanted to forget someone or something they just deleted it from the books and no one was allowed to speak about it. Right Wing Commies. How cool.:sarcasm:

[ClintonTyree]

52. Now THIS is investigative reporting..........

remember in times or yore when reporters and journalists in the Main Stream Media used to do this sort of thing? That was long ago, in another time, before they turned into stenographers and echo chambers for the Bush Administration's lies.

GREAT JOB, to everyone who contributed to putting this together. :yourock:

It's difficult for Disney/ABC to say they don't have an agenda when information like this is uncovered. LIARS AND THIEVES! :grr: The entire lot ought to be keel-hauled for perpetrating crap like this. :mad:

The poor, persecuted xtians again. Determined to shove their freaking god down our throats in any manner possible. It's freaking sickening! And Disney/ABC are willing dupes to this bullshit!

Disney, ABC, their affiliates, their sponsors and any other businesses remotely acquainted with those people will not get ONE PENNY of my money, ever again!

Fucking fascists! :grr:

[farmbo]

53. Good get! It must suck to be a MSM reporter, regurgitating ABC press

...releases on this, when EarlG, with a modest amount of creative Googling, has blown the lid off of any viable ABC/Disney claims of legitimacy for this project.

Welcome to the New Media!

You go Earl!

[Rageneau]

55. Amatuer Bloggers Beat the Professional "Journalists" AGAIN!!

Great Work. Great Reporting. And a great example to any lurking so-called journalists of what REAL reporting looks like. This information was readily available to anyone who took the time to look. But our MSM can't be bothered to LOOK for what the truth is, when it is so much easier to just roll onto their backs and let Karl Rove scratch their bellies with his spin.

The World Wide Web is the only hope we have for liberty and democracy. Without it, we are completely at te mercy of the MSM, which is completely at the mercy of the Military-Industrial complex.

[EarlG]

58. To be fair

I mostly just summarized this information (although I did dig out a couple of new bits). Most of the legwork was done by other DUers and bloggers.

But to me this is the big story about the ABC movie: that it has been produced by an organization which has an admitted conservative/religious agenda. And ABC is going to the mat for them.

[peacetalksforall]

89. Just this morning on C-Span, A Chicago Tribune reporter said bloggers

could never do what professional reporters can do - can't dig, wouldn't ask for FOIA, etc.

[porphyrian]

56. "...content which promotes Godly principles of Truth married with Love?!"

Are they really that fucking stupid, or do they think we are?

[ClintonTyree]

69. Yes, they really are that fucking stupid.

They've completely given up their creative thought processes. They B-E-L-I-E-V-E, they don't have to think and that's all that's necessary in their dome of stupidity.

I'm not saying religion is stupid, just some of it's "believers". Disgusting! :puke:

[dwp6577]

59. not sure where to post this...

Seems like the house of cards is tumbling down :)

- propaganda being exposed (this, sadam-osama link debunked, terror threat manipulation, 911 report II, fully automatic machine gun style bush speech barrage, keith-o getting bold and brave with his commentary, etc...)
- fux news getting a little weird (I watch it occasionally to know the face of the enemy)..."hannity sucks ass" that was hilarious
- Rethug politicians running scared

I wonder how many of these evil $#*(&@)@'s will mysteriously retire to "Lay" island (you know...where Ken is relaxing)


Thanks to all who are exposing this attempt at global brainwashing!!!

[calimary]

66. Here's what I just sent to Disney:

Gentlepeople,

PLEASE do the right thing. Not the "right" thing (as in pandering to the so-called "right" wing of American politics. PLEASE don't slander or libel the Clinton administration! "The Path to 9/11" is filled with lies, distortions, misrepresentations, and deceptions. PLEASE don't put it on the air! I don't want to feel compelled to stop watching ABC, or joining the growing boycott of ABC sponsors. But if this despicable miscarriage of truth and justice is allowed to air, I'm going to have to do both those things.

PLEASE pull this awful program!!!

Thank you.

------------

BTW - good thread here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

BTW part two: ALL that contact info and more has been updated in the Five Star Activists' Resource Thread. Check Part Sixty, ESPECIALLY the Third Add.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[calimary]

76. Links didn't work. Here's a correction:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2817563&mesg_id=2817563

[Rude Horner]

68. It never ceases to amaze me

the depth of the digging that bloggers do to uncover the story. Utterly fantastic post, and thanks to all who contributed. There are people who laugh when I say I get my news from REAL sources, like the blogs, but those people don't know 1/100th of the full story, EVER.

[jwirr]

104. My adult children are loyal Democrats but you are right they get

way to much of their news from MSM. I am their link to truth. So if our own are uninformed then what are the ordinary people sucking up?

[AtomicKitten]

70. disgraceful, disgusting

They are trying to REWRITE history.

And maybe now you know why I get po'd with the trashing of Democrats here at DU. It's time to circle the wagons. I don't think the opposition could make their intentions any clearer.

On edit: Brilliant investigative piece. K&R

[OneBlueSky]

72. I just sent the link to this thread to the editor of my local paper . . .

with an e-mail asking him to read it and follow the links . . . have to wait and see if he follows up . . .

[BlueEyedSon]

74. Wow, Earl!!! Amazing work.... k&r.

[Onlooker]

77. Incredible find -- This is a real news story

Wow, this discovery shows the power of the internet. This is a great story that I bet will be picked up by the media. We should certainly do what we can in that regard. I know someone who I'm calling right now!

[xchrom]

79. when your goal is to create a conservative republican majority

what won't you do?

from william f. buckley to the creators of the heritage foundation to lynne cheney to this -- organizations like this serve one goal -- one purpose -- to control history.

and that's what they are doing.

i could say more -- but i am dismayed at the dismay displaced by many of my fellow liberals, progressives, democrats etc.
they've been blatant about their goals -- they aren't hidden.

i find this both distressing and depressing.

[redqueen]

80. Nice compilation. Thanks very much.

Will make good use of this this afternoon.

[Lisa]

81. interesting -- sounds a bit like what Rove was trying to do in late 2001

The White House arranged meetings with some Hollywood people a few weeks after 9/11. They tried to "encourage" the production of administration-friendly films and TV (by appealing to patriotism, offering to provide inside info, etc.). Not just to increase public support for the War on Terror, but ultimately to dominate what they saw as a leftist opposition tone there. (I wouldn't be surprised if the list of actors, writer, and producers mentioned below included some of the people involved in the ABC movie ... some of them have already been involved in a similar effort.)

"In mid-October a group of three dozen actors, writers and producers, led by conservatives--screenwriter Lionel Chetwynd and documentary producer Craig Haffner--put together the first formal exploratory meeting with two lower-level White House aides. Within a month, the "creatives" were pushed aside, and the November 11 meeting was reconfigured at the highest level: Bush's right-hand man, Rove, and the all-powerful business-side "suits" who run corporate Hollywood. "What Hollywood and Washington have in common is reverence and respect for the orderly making of money," says Robert Rosen, the dean of UCLA's Film and TV School. So he's not surprised that the contacts would take place at the highest level. But Rosen, like most observers, expects little direct or visible effect on Hollywood's product as a result of détente with Washington. Any comparisons to Hollywood's prolific pro-war output during World War II are simply misplaced, he argues. "During World War II there was no TV," he says. "The only way you could 'see' the war was through the movies. That's hardly the case today.""

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20011210/cooper/2


***Later, Lionel Chetwynd was the producer for the "DC 9/11" film (the one starring Timothy Bottoms a few years back), which at the time DUers noted was thinly-veiled propaganda -- and inept, at that!

"Probably most notably, Chetwynd is a founder of the Wednesday Morning Club, a group dedicated to countering liberal tendencies in Hollywood. The name originates from the Wednesday morning following the election of Bill Clinton in 1992. Since then, Chetwynd and prominent L.A. Republicans have gathered at the Peninsula Hotel in Beverly Hills for meetings hosted by leftist-gone-right David Horowitz, the former editor of Ramparts and now a columnist for Salon.

Whoever's responsible for the Wednesday Morning club, the omelettes must be special. So far, these coffee klatches have drawn such guest speakers as William Bennett, Judge Robert Bork, the ever-elusive Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich and that newly fledged hawk, columnist Christopher Hitchens. The Nation's columnist Alexander Cockburn refers to the Wednesday Morning Club as "a front" for Horowitz's Center for the Study of Popular Culture, a handsomely endowed, L.A.-based conservative think tank."


http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/07.31.03/dc911-0331.html



"Chetwynd bonded with Dubya in March 2001 when, at Rove's suggestion, Varian's War was screened at the White House; Chetwynd was subsequently involved in various post-9-11 Hollywood-Washington conclaves and currently serves Bush as part of the President's Committee on the Arts and the Humanities."

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0335,hoberman,46558,1.html

[louis-t]

82. If this "film institute" survives, expect to see movies 100 years

from now depicting stupidassprezeedent riding a white horse and single-handedly slaying terrorists with his mighty sword or flying his F-15 down on bin laden's hideout and smiting him with a 500-lb. bomb.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

83. Holy fucking crap

It's amazing to see it all put together like this.

Thanks mhatrw, EarlG and all who built on my initial inkling of suspicion.

The YWAM pages being scrubbed just tears it. Just...wow.

[glitch]

87. You nailed it. What a team! Thanks, very very interesting. nt

[Imagevision]

84. John Miller, is currently a member of the Bush administration

[TwentyFive]

85. ABC = All Bullshit Channel n/t

[DemReadingDU]

94. Great research,

Thanks to all!

[keepCAblue]

95. David L. Cunningham = The Film Institute = YWAM

Did a "whois" search on The Film Institute's website domain name (thefilminstitute.org) and it shows the website registered to "Pray for Rain Pictures"...

"Pray for Rain Pictures" IS David L. Cunningham's production company:

http://www.toendallwarsmovie.com/players_cunningham.html

excerpt:

{David L. Cunningham} is the founder and President of the Los Angeles-bases production company Pray for Rain Pictures Inc. Some of his former clients include Japanese NHK Television, The Family Channel, ABC, CNN, Discovery Channel, Disney, Sony Pictures, and CBS.

And, as we all by now know, The Film Institute is an "auxiliary branch" of the Youth With a Mission evangelical organization. Thus, one can only conclude that David L. Cunningham's production company and TFI are all directly and deeply connected with the YWAM.

[Junkdrawer]

96. K&R...n/t

[jwirr]

98. Once again the right wing religious idiots and their cohorts lie

and make God the patsy. They are bringing dishonor to His name in so many ways.

[Joanne98]

101. A secret global evangelical cult. Now that's the story!

[brook]

105. "Serious question..

... because I honestly don't know the answer: is it common practice to create a "ghost production company" in order to conceal who is really making a particular movie?"

It isn't terribly unusual - I can't recall offhand what we called "The Color Purple" during production, but it was something generic. It's also not unusual to have to sign a confidentiality agreement when you receive your script, which is numbered and must be returned at the end of production.

Many low budget projects don't go under the film's title -sometimes because they are non-union shoots who want to fly under the radar. My guess is that "flying under the radar" was the operative mode for these cultists who were very much aware that their project couldn't stand the light of day.

[EarlG]

109. Thanks - that makes sense

I understand that movies are frequently given "working titles" - I guess I was thinking more of the production company itself. Would it be considered "normal" to create a phony production company in order to conceal the identity of the real producers?

[brook]

114. Yes and no.

"Producer" is really an ambiguous term. Some 'producers' put up some money in front for which they get a credit (and a couple of copies of the script to lure hopeful starlets up to their 'office')- there are many variations on the theme. Barbra Striesand's hairdresser, Jon Peters is a good example. I must've worked on a dozen movies on which he had a credit. I think I saw him on a set once. There are damn few hands-on old fashioned and smart Producers working today.

In the case of Color Purple, I remembered - we called it Moon Song Productions. A separate company is often set up within companies. It helps with the bookeeping. :)

Again, I think P2911, was purposely set up in stealth mode because they knew that once discovered,they'd never get it made. My guess is that YWAM financed the project; came to Disney with the financing in place and was put under the Mouse Umbrella as a no-risk gift. Then with Disney/ABC on board, they were able to attract a cast - none of whom command much money. btw.

[Coexist]

127. does the call-off of the evangelical boycott of Disney

tie in to this production at all?

Also -- from another post in another thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2071734&mesg_id=2083863

The production company is a corporation registered in California

UHP PRODUCTIONS, INC.
Number: C2727420 Date Filed: 3/24/2005 Status: active
Jurisdiction: California
Address
2400 WEST ALAMEDA AVE
BURBANK, CA 91521
Agent for Service of Process
MARSHA L REED
500 SOUTH BUENA VISTA ST
BURBANK, CA 91521-0105

The agent, Marsha Reed, is the corporate secretary for disney, or at least was up to 2002.

http://corporate.disney.go.com/investors/proxy/proxy_20...

Edit

She has changed positions

Name: Marsha L. Reed



Title:Vice President-Governance Administration and
Assistant Secretary

http://bostonsec.stockgroup.com/filing.php?doc=1&attach...

[nicknameless]

106. Their tax-free status should be revoked. Look what Marie26 found:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2073411&mesg_id=2080124

From the scrubbed website:
Posted by Marie26

"As always, any financial contributions are tax deductible
and should be addressed to:
IPM
Attn: for Mark and Krista Harris
615 Knollwood Circle
Conyers, GA 30094"

Care to donate? :) The address is for something called the "International Prayer Ministries". Another evangelical, missionary organization.

http://www.nationalprayer.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=24

[DTinAZ]

107. K & R - nt

(this keeps sliding off the first page)

[malaise]

108. Posts like this one

have made me love DU.:yourock: :yourock:

Gr.

[Maestro]

110. Great research and compilation!

K & R

[katinmn]

111. Clintonistas??!! What an absurd label! ABC is off the deep end.

These faux-religious people have marched long enough, taken over enough.

This is a culture war for America and they just lost their cover. Sneaky bastards.

And to think their arrogance did them in. Ha!

[McCamy Taylor]

112. George Mitchell's got some 'splainin' to do.

[Major Hogwash]

113. And Tom Kean was an advisor for this project?

Isn't that a conflict of interest?

[radwriter0555]

115. Thank you for this...

it's awesome.

[LaPera]

116. It's about film making...Michael Moore is a fine film maker - It doesn't

happen over-night, simply because one has plenty of money to play with, and an idea...It takes heart & soul - Michael Moore has both, his whole life is film making...Moore is an excellent, entertaining, knowledgeable and a very smart film maker...It takes thought, work sensitivity & creativity, again, Moore offers all.

Just glad Moore is on our side.

Tell me another, consistently in his league & class as a documentary film maker...the republicans think they can throw out any piece of shit and the masses (besides the sheep, who wouldn't know fine film making if it hit them in the face) will eat it up...It's an ART...And the neocons are pissed & jealous that Moore is so brilliant at it...but that's his gift and his dedication!

Right now the Republicans are still in film class 101!

It reminds me of those film makers who throw in any stupid rock n roll song and expect a "hit" that the "kids" will eat up, But they don't know shit, except dollars signs, they give the kids no credit (just force feeding) for seeing right through it and recognizing that it's shit...And then they STILL don't get it.

[Trajan]

117. Threads like this ....

Are what makes DU so damned GREAT ! ....

This is amazing, maddening, and heartbreaking ... ALL at the same time ....

K&R ..... Indeed ....

[Zorra]

118. "ABC knows exactly what they're doing...."

and it is precisely why the fascists bought up most of our media.

To brainwash Americans with their lies.

Excellent post, thanks

[LaPera]

119. Perhaps about propaganda...but certainly not about right-wing film making!

The neocons, republicans are going solely with ideology above film making...and they've yet to see the difference...When they do, and they will....Watch out!!!

[NMMNG]

120. "Transform Hollywood"--into a RW propaganda machine. n/t

[Wretched Refuse]

121. The long and winding Path to 9/11

Well, could not we go further back in our time machine and ask:
What the hell did George Bush I do to stop Osama? I mean why not do that? He had the whole middle east in his grubby little hands back in 1991, so why not take Osama out right then either?

Now HERE is a concept for y'all,

It has struck me that this "non-issue" (really if you think about all the treason this admin is doing, this is a non-issue) is REALLY the DLC re-asserting itself as the controller of ALL things Democrat.
I mean it is all a Clinton (+administration) face saving thing that now supposedly ALL god Dems come to the aid of their "fearless leader." Well, it really is sapping our "momentum" on other more important issues, and the corporate controlled DLC KNOWS THAT.

So, I have stayed outside the blogosphere on this one, except for the few phone calls to ABC radio to gnash my teeth on the air, with the likes of Levin (the Zionist) and the new idiot (Jerry) last night taking over Laura Ingram's 8-10 slot in the NY ABC market.

Screw Disney and ABC, they were the next to fall to the nazis after Fox anyway, everyone knew that. I believe that ABC is also stirring the pot to get all good Dems back into the DLC fold, as Hilary was starting to get REALLY antsy at the calls to debate Tasini and with Lamont, and the Screw the DLC push happening as of late, I feel this is the motive for the over-hype of this non-issue.

This all just another Corporate-control of our sense of "what is important."

[tbyg52]

122. In a rational world

this would be the lead story on the evening news. Thank you for the research, and wish it would be reported as it deserves.

[DTinAZ]

123. "Secret Right-Wing Network Behind ABC's 9/11 Deception" - HuffPo

Related story found at HuffPo:

Discover the Secret Right-Wing Network Behind ABC's 9/11 Deception

Max Blumenthal

here's a quote:

In fact, "The Path to 9/11" is produced and promoted by a well-honed propaganda operation consisting of a network of little-known right-wingers working from within Hollywood to counter its supposedly liberal bias. This is the network within the ABC network. Its godfather is far right activist David Horowitz, who has worked for more than a decade to establish a right-wing presence in Hollywood and to discredit mainstream film and TV production. On this project, he is working with a secretive evangelical religious right group founded by The Path to 9/11's director David Cunningham that proclaims its goal to "transform Hollywood" in line with its messianic vision.

Go read the rest!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/discover-the-secret-right_b_29015.html

DT

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124. Thank you Earl for your hard work. Let's just hope this explodes

in the face of junior and his thugs.

[mhatrw]

126. kick

[Tsiyu]

129. Wow

These people have zero shame.

And one must wonder how David Cunningham expects to get into heaven when he has participated in this Lie-fest of a movie "Path to 9/11: Bearing False Witness." How is it "Godly" to lie about events and people? Isn't David Cunningham a follower of the Ten Commandments?

Oh, yeah. That's right. The Neo-Cons like DAVID CUNNINGHAM think they are So SPECIAL that they don't actually have to follow those Ten Commandments - especially the one about LYING - as long as they shove them down the throats of the rest of us.

What a mockery they make of their own professed GAWD. They have no principles, no shame, no compassion for their fellow man. Their GAWD is pretty much useless. But I guess He likes crappy movies.....? :wtf: