Ahhhhnold has Macacca Moment and Blitzer (CNN) plays it!

[KoKo]

Hot blooded Cubans, Puerto Ricans, etc...and that "black strain of blood."

He played the SHOCKING CLIP and says it's coming up again on his 7:00 p.m. show...but I think for those who don't watch CNN you will soon find in on the Net so you can here this "Austrian Nazi with his accent" trash Latino's and Puerto Ricans, Cubans for their HOT BLOOD with black strain.

Sheesh....How good can it get? Exposing the RACISTS wherever they lurk like cockroaches that only come out in the night.

The snip was captured on some sound recording in a closed meeting Ahhhhnold held months ago.

[Kutjara]

1. They just can't help themselves.

No matter how hard the Repugs try to keep a lid on the pressure cooker of hate and bigotry inside them, sooner or later a gasket gives and thar she blows!

"Black strain of blood;" what an asshole.

[KoKo]

17. " Cubans and Puerto Ricans are naturally feisty and temperamental "

well...maybe that's true BUT so are Irish and French and maybe some Italians.

But...he goes on to say it's "black blood." :eyes:

[Kutjara]

24. The Gropenator obviously never took that "How racist...

...are you" test that was going around the Net awhile back.

One of the questions was along the lines of "what is the percentage genetic difference between black people and white people?" The correct answer is "zero." There are, in fact, likely to be more genetic variations between any two randomly selected white people (or black people, or Asian people) as there are between the 'average' genomes of any racial groups. Skin color and facial features are merely manifestations of genes we all possess, responding to differing environmental influences over time.

So there's no such thing as 'black blood' or 'tempermental redheads' or 'stingy Scotsmen'. Any perceived differences are cultural, and not related to what's running through our veins or coded in our DNA.

If Latin blood was more 'fiery' than other types, then wouldn't people who had a transfusion using that blood suddenly become more temperamental?

[tinfoilinfor2005]

30. My mother used to call my husband a card playing, beer drinking

Irishman. He said he took offense to that because he had never played cards in his life.

[bliss_eternal]

35. Great points, Kutjara...

I liked your post in my other thread as well. I'm sorry I didn't post until now to tell you so. I was a bit distracted (you'll see what I mean if you look at the thread). :eyes:

:hi: Good to see you consistently standing up against bigotry--I for one, really appreciate it!

[LibDemAlways]

2. This will cost Ahnold votes.

California is full of people who ignore the party and vote for the guy they "like" best. Ahnold just exposed a side of himself that will make him a whole lot less likable in the minds of many voters. Good.

[AX10]

4. Good.

[treestar]

3. How did he get elected in a state where whites are a minority?

Seems like the last state where a Nazi could get elected.

[mikelgb]

5. answer:

[LibDemAlways]

7. You nailed it.

People gravitate to celebrity. Simple as that. Gray Davis was toast the minute Ahnold announced.

[bvar22]

12. Correction

SOME people with low self-esteem and poor ego strengths gravitate to celebrity.

No Charge.



"Every one has a plan...Until you hit them in the mouth." --Mike Tyson

[LibDemAlways]

26. Where I live in Southern Calif. celebrities are

practically worshipped. The day of the election that installed Ahnold people at my polling place couldn't wait to vote for the idiot, and this is an area that's pretty evenly divided between Dems and repukes.

[bliss_eternal]

31. Really?! That's disturbing.

In middle class minority communities, I heard of quite a few people that DID NOT even get ballots for that election. :eyes:

So sure, some probably did go for the celebrity factor--others that they knew would not, never got a chance to weigh in. Kind of like Diebold, just more effective. Can't vote with no ballot or polling place...

[chaska]

6. THE RACE CARD IS BEING PLAYED....

Yes, I think I heard Sam Seder talking about this. It's all they have left. They have to motivate their racist base. And that's what all these race comments are all about.

Is anyone keeping track of how many there have been since Macaca? Isn't this like number 5 or 6?

[LibDemAlways]

9. It's a double-edged sword, though.

They risk turning off a whole bunch of people who aren't bigots. Hell one of the biggest Bush lovers I ever met was a freeper type guy who was married to a Hispanic woman. Ahnold did himself no favors.

[chaska]

10. Hmm, interesting....

You would seem to be right that Arnold did himself no favors, even though that comment is so over the top I doubt that it's an authenticly (sp?) spontaneous comment.

But as for the first part, I think those who aren't bigots are going to stay home. If the more moderate cons aren't going to show, you'd damn sure better motivate the ones who are likely to show. And let's be real, race (or more correctly "otherism" - all not like myself are bad - covers gays, foreigners, Liberals, etc.) is the central motivation of Conservatism (as currently practiced).

[LibDemAlways]

27. No denying that Conservatives fear the "other."

Freeper types really aren't fond of Ahnold to begin with (pro-choice, not a fundie), so they are likely to sit this one out - particularly since Feinstein has no meaningful opposition in the Senate race and there don't seem to be any hot button issues on the ballot.

A motivated Democratic base could turn this around for Angelides since Ahnold is going to be depending on moderates and independents.

[chrisbur]

14. Any kids?

That would be the true measure of his racism. They only have to be racist enough to pull a voting machine lever, not a gallows.

[LibDemAlways]

28. No kids, but it's an affordability issue more than anything.

He makes squat in a shitty job in an insurance office and she answers phones at an auto body repair shop. They live in a crappy, overpriced apartment in a dangerous neighborhood. He's addicted to Rush, though, and thinks "liberals" are the cause of his miserable situation.

[bliss_eternal]

32. Sounds like a case of John Wayne syndrome...

Some freeper types that marry minority women. :mad: Was the guy you knew like that?

[LibDemAlways]

34. He was just an average guy with a crappy job and

a life of quiet desperation. From what I could tell he was crazy about his wife, though, and would go on and on about how much he loved her family.

As an aside, since you mentioned him:

I happened to teach one of John Wayne's grandsons years ago. The boy's mother, Wayne's daughter Toni (who has since passed away), was down-to-earth and easygoing. You'd never have guessed she was the daughter of a big star. The kid looked (and walked) just like his grandfather. Often wonder what happened to him.

[bliss_eternal]

36. Amazing isn't it...

How much love can change some? That's so cool!

Cool story about John Wayne's grandsons too. Thanks for sharing!

[KoKo]

43. kick........

[KamaAina]

8. We're all over it in LBN as well

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2501028&mesg_id=2501028

Hmmm.. didn't realize the tape was months old. Could be that Angelides has some really good oppo research going on, in which case we can expect tons more of this stuff in the coming weeks.

[KoKo]

11. Thanks! will go over there to LBN and it IS amazin this tape is months

old. Time for Swartzenegger to be caught red handed. I don't want another CA Actor to show up as President in my lifetime. Ahhhnold has to GO!!!!

[goclark]

19. Finally saw a great Ad by Phil A.

It kept showing Arnold praising Bush and then asking, " Do you want this man to be your governor.

Phil needs to keep tying him to Bush and maybe we can turn this around.

[bliss_eternal]

37. I saw that one, too...

It was a good one--glad to see it.

I don't get how more people weren't all over that point. Arnie promised that he wasn't going to stump for *. Yet where was he that final election weekend? In Ohio, campaining for the boy king. :eyes:

Why would CA's gov. support (in theory) the guy that denied us the funds that could have prevented a huge tragedy, the fires of 2003?

[goclark]

39. Phil must win, CA or any other state doesn't deserve the Nazi

He is a real sicko and sad to say Maria is an enabler.

[bliss_eternal]

40. Weren't all the Kennedy women...?

...enablers? Hate to say it. I thought she was different, or at least I hoped.

[goclark]

42. How right you are bliss

My friend you always get it right.

Maria is just another in a long line.

The difference is the RFK and JFK and even JOAN were backing men that had worked for the GOOD, this one is a creep and Maria should know better.

Hate to say it but her buddy Oprah enables the Groper too!'

Oprah should know better because she was abused as a young girl, but she Loooooooooooves Arnold. :(

[bliss_eternal]

44. You're going to laugh about this...

but the reason you see that my post is edited, is because I had written the same things about Oprah and
deleted them. :wow: I get tired to getting flamed about "the Oprah," so I took it out of my post! I'm cracking up that we think the same thing about them. :rofl:

The thing that made me crazy with Oprah was that she did a special show with Maria and Arnie, she called him "the next governor of CA." :eyes": I have friends that haven't watched another Oprah from that day forward. To be fair, she should have given Gray Davis time on the show as well. She the man votes! Unforgiveable!

[mikelewis]

13. Okay... Wolf Blitzer is attacking a Conservative? Does anyone else...

...smell something fishy with that? Arnold has tabled most of his hard-line conservative Nazi stances and has even brought the Democrats in California together to pass through some quasi-meaningfull legislation. I'm not a fan of his in the slightest and I believe he would grow a Hitler mustache if he thought it would help his career; but anytime Wolf the Liar starts attacking someone, I begin to wonder what Rove has against them. CNN doesn't air anything that isn't stamped by Rove's propaganda department so why is Wolf allowed to "attack" the Govenator?

[KoKo]

16. Read what he said...I linked a short snip below...and see if it doesn't

deserve as much and even extended press coverage as Allen's Macacca Moment.

Ahhhnold is an Austrian Immmigrant Governor of a State that would make VA look like a Peanut with a HUGE Hispanic Population...and Mr. Austria goes after their "black blood" because it's "HOT?" :crazy: give me a break!

[mikelewis]

21. Oh... I am no fan of Arnold but I am highly suspect of Blitzers...

motivations. I know this is playing "shoot the messenger" but this messenger deserves a firing squad.

[KoKo]

23. huh? Ahhhnold or Blitzer deserves the "firing squad?"

didn't get your post...but it's undeniable that Arnold spoke racist words that were as bad or worse than "Maccaca" and I was glad that Blitzer led off with the snip.

But...you'll have to wait to hear the real snip in context because Blitzers 7:00 p.m. show didn't have the whole clip that his early 5:00 p.m. show had and he promised to repeat. Seems Blitzer got a "call from upstairs" to not air the whole snip in context with Arnold's whole statement caught on tape.

:shrug:

[KoKo]

15. Here's a snip of what YAHOO has of what he said..

it's better to hear him with his "immigrant accent" diss Latino's in person...(and Blitzer, CNN played the snip in context) but until there's an audio...this is what Yahoo says he said which is shorter than what CNN played:

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By MICHAEL R. BLOOD, Associated Press Writer 38 minutes ago

SANTA MONICA, Calif. - Gov.
Arnold Schwarzenegger apologized Friday for saying during a closed-door meeting that Cubans and Puerto Ricans are naturally feisty and temperamental because of their combination of "black blood" and "Latino blood." He said the tape-recorded comments "made me cringe" when he read them in Friday's Los Angeles Times.


"Anyone out there that feels offended by those comments, I just want to say I'm sorry, I apologize," Schwarzenegger said. He added that if he heard his children make similar comments, "I would be upset."

The furor comes amid a re-election campaign in which the Republican has tried to mend fences with Democrats and moderates and look more statesmanlike and less like the swaggering action hero he played on screen. Schwarzenegger has a history of making off-the-cuff remarks that get him in trouble. He called California legislators "girlie men" and "losers" and talked of kicking nurses' butts.

During California's 2003 recall election, he was accused of groping or otherwise mistreating women on movie sets and other locations. He apologized for having "behaved badly sometimes."

The statements about Hispanics and blacks were captured on a six-minute tape made during a March 3 speechwriting session between Schwarzenegger and his advisers. On it, Schwarzenegger and chief of staff Susan Kennedy speak affectionately of state Assemblywoman Bonnie Garcia and speculate about her nationality.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060908/ap_on_re_us/schwarzenegger_tape;_ylt=Au_Gsd7yKkZNa6Zf5PJMT1us0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

[Disturbed]

18. Will his apology change the way he really thinks?

That's a rhetorical question, btw. :yoiks:

[KoKo]

20. He is who he is....one of those that John Dean calls an "Authoritarian

Personality" in his new book.

Depends on how far the CA voters want to apologize for this guy. It's not his first "foot in mouth disease" quote. :-(

[bliss_eternal]

33. This Californian isn't having it...

...no bigotry apology going on here. I was pleased to see a couple of reps from women's and latina organizations make statements on the news today against him. :)

I was sick of him before he got in office. I'm having fits over these sexist, racist statements. I plan to personally contact every organization representing democratic people of color and women to find out what their plans are on taking this guy down. I wanna' help! ;)

:mad::grr:

He is disgusting to me.

[KoKo]

46. Why is Ahhnold's Macacca getting less play than Allen's Rascism in VA?

Is it because VA is so much smaller than CA...or is he given a "break" because he's said so many dreadful things before that folks don't care anymore? Some kind of "immune" factor he has like "St. Ronnie Reagan?" And Reagan became our President "Sainted" who led us down the road to these IDIOT/CRIMINAL BUSHES!!!!!!! Folks didn't pay much attention to Ronnie when he was hawking Refrigerators for GE...is this what Ahhhnold will become? A person folks give a break to because he's a MAJOR "ACTION FIGURE" in our Childhood Psyches? Some kind of "implanted brain thing" that we have made our own?

:scared:

[bliss_eternal]

47. I'm not sure...

I know that the southern California media is full of shit. They have been bought (it seems) by Hollywood and spend more time covering who's fucking who, who was harassed by the paparazzi, etc.

I sometimes play the "but is this news.." game with my husband. We watch the news and every story that is bullshit, one of us says, "but how is this news?" For me, news is something that affects US ALL. Having a governor that thinks women are objects and people with black blood are wild is news and a HUGE problem.

Notice how much more airplay the Gibson story got here than anywhere else? :puke:

[KoKo]

48. Live Snip of Ahhhnold's comments from Young Turks/ thanks to Zonkers

for this clip:

http://www.theyoungturks.com/section/tytvideoclips

[varun]

22. Macaca comment was more "vicious" than Arnold's

I am not excusing Arnold, but if you see the video clips, you will find that Macaca was putting down the indian guy in front of a large white consrvative crowd.

[KoKo]

25. Okay...I go with you there. Arnold was ripping at a closed door meeting

and hopefully there weren't any folks in that inner circle who were offended...except whoever captured him on tape!

But, yes...Allen is just so disgusting that it was ridicule...still I don't think Arnold should be viewed as off the hook because this was a meeting where he was serving as Govenor and said this...not like he was at home making comments at a private dinner party.

[zonkers]

29. Wow, been searching for audio for the past half hour. What bullshit

that it is not an audio link at articles on the incident. Shouldn't we get to hear the remarks to judge the apology?

[KoKo]

41. I'm still kicking this hoping someone will find an audio for this....

:kick:

[UTUSN]

38. Oh------CaliFORN-ee-YA, can you HEAR me??????????/ n/t

[KoKo]

45. Kick for COLLY FORNIA!!!!

[KoKo]

49. I just don't understand why Dems aren't Jumping and Crawling all over THIS

WHY? :shrug: