"The 'homeland' has been safe for 5 years under Bush." Meme alert!

[gully]

If I hear this statement again without Democrats stating the obvious "THE 'HOMELAND' WAS SAFE UNDER CLINTON FOR 8 YEARS" I'm going to scream.

I just saw another Republican state this on MSNBC and the Democrat who is presenting our side said NADA.

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[Chimichurri]

2. I hate that they call the United States "The Homeland" it's so

Hitleresque in nature.

[gully]

10. "Master race"

Indeed, it is Hitleresque.

[Ezlivin]

3. Does that count the time between 9/11 and the ANTHRAX ATTACKS?

Remember those attacks with "WMD" right here on American soil that killed Americans and targeted Democratic senators who opposed the Patriot Act?

[gully]

5. Gosh, I dunno. Democrats must not be "homeez."

:P

[Redstone]

4. Boy, does that word "homeland" sound Nazi-ish enough?

It's always gotten on my nerves.

Redstone

[gully]

8. Idiots love lofty platitudes.

Gets on my nerves too.

[The_Casual_Observer]

6. Never mind that the dust is still settling on the worst attack in history

and we have been in a hot war ever since. Just never mind.

[IChing]

12. And the dust of Anthrax that started on Sept. 18th 2001

http://www.globalgreen.org/greenbuilding/GAHI.html


The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on September 18, 2001 (a week after the September 11, 2001 attacks). Letters containing anthrax bacteria were mailed to several news media offices and two U.S. Senators, killing five people and sickening seventeen others. The crime remains unsolved.

[The_Casual_Observer]

15. Since the geniuses at the FBI couldn't budge that one, it was

utterly forgotten & is never to be mentioned by jr.

[jellybeancurse]

7. I always find it kind of funny

(in a cry not haha sort of way) that no one ever seems to notice 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. "He has keeped us safe" we always here, but people seem to oddly forget that one day in september five years ago.

[gully]

9. And those people forget Clinton had one attack on "the homeland"

from Al Qaida ONE MONTH after he took office. That attack killed 4 I believe.

Contrast that to Bush in office for 9 months and 3000 dead.

Nutcases.

[BeautifulLoser]

18. You forgot Tim McVeigh

1995 OKC

[gully]

21. Tim McVeigh was an american who committed a crime on american

soil. Should we hold Bush accountable for every crime committed by anyone in every state, while he's been in office?

[alarimer]

24. The difference in both the OKC and first WTC attacks

is that the perpetrators in both cases were arrested, tried, convicted and punished. Through conventional police methods, with no need to inspect the reading lists of library patrons.


Bush admits he doesn't spend a lot of time worrying about bin Laden. Too busy running a phony war i guess.

[gully]

25. Good point.

Thanks.

[jellybeancurse]

31. Of course not

but I think the main opposition, and why people point this out, is that there is an image of Bush that is put forward of him being this infallible leader. An image in which he protects us with his mighty NSA and CIA prisons. All of which we need. :sarcasm:

I mean it's such a ludicrous argument anyway. If i tell you reading this sentence protects you against gorillas and no gorillas attack you, does that mean my sentence is a shield against gorillas? Of course not.

[gully]

32. Well now "t's no accident we've not had an attack in 5 years"

but it WAS sheer luck that we only had one attack from Al Qaida in the first month Bill Clinton was in office. /sarcasm

[Nevernose]

33. And we caught the guys who did it. n/t

[pat_k]

11. We keep you safe . . but any minute now, BOOM!

We kept you safe, they wouldn't have.

But, we can't keep you safe. Attack is coming any minute.

But we'll save you. But you'd better be afraid. . .

Attack Iraq because "it's central" to "the enemy" to trap and bankrupt the US in an endless war -- like the one in Iraq.

You'd think you'd see more of their heads spontaneously exploding from the pressure of all their insane notions colliding.

[gully]

13. Yep

a reletive today "reminded me" of 911 when I mentioned a ocal war casualty in Iraq. Of course I reminded said relative that 911 had NOTHING to do with Iraq and that Bush isn't concerned about OBL. She looked stunned.

[pat_k]

26. Speaking of stunned. . .

Chris Matthews brought up the specter of the unthinkable: that the United States military -- misused as a proxy for diplomacy, too few for the job, unequipped for guerrilla warfare and death squads, -- could actually LOSE in Iraq. We could lose Bagdad. We could see a repeat of April 29, 1975.

It was a segment with Michael Feldman and Tucker Eskew. The transcript doesn't seem to be up, and I don't recall how exactly it came up, but Matthews said something along the lines of "what if it's like Vietnam, Iraqi's -- who we promised so much -- hanging onto helicopters . . . stepping on fingers. . ."

They both looked stunned, gobsmacked, short-circuited. Then both started in at once, no it won't. . . pulling out. . . stammer stammer.

The unthinkable is becoming not only thinkable, the probability increases with every day and every failed effort to "quell the violence."



The Long Last Day

[gully]

28. And they'll blame dissenters when we surely do lose.

"They aided and abeded the enemy." :eyes:

As if the frikken Iraqi resistence is sitting in the middle of the desert listening to war critique before making strategic moves.

[WolverineDG]

14. Really?

Then how come I can't take my mascara on the plane with me? :crazy:

dg

[gully]

17. LOL

.

[baldguy]

16. Bush is like a pyromaniac standing in the rubble of a burned-out building.

"Well, hey! At least you don't have to worry about fires anymore!"

[jimshoes]

19. Not so much from natural disasters though

New Orleans doesn't count? I bet you could get some arguments from New Orleanians.

[gkhouston]

20. safe? If we're safe then why are we still at "orange"?

Couldn't "safe" at least be a less sucky color? :shrug:

[gully]

30. www.shhh.com

Let's not make sense. It's tough on conservatives.

[SoCalDem]

22. The "homeland" has been safe because the terra-ists actually PLAN

stuff before they go willy-nilly "into action"..unlike some presidents we know :( They will attack us again, when they are good and ready..and not before.

[Virginia Dare]

23. Except when Bush and Cheney unleashed the anthrax...

yeah, we've been "safe" :freak:

[IChing]

27. September 18th 2001 scared the shit out of anyone who opened mail

which was the largest terrorist act against the nation
that affected millions personally in their day to day life.

[gully]

29. Absolutely right.

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