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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:01 PM
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Quote from former * appointee: "Bush....dysfunctional creep"
Made my day! :-)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14723997

9/11 conspiracy theorists multiply
Many Americans suspect U.S. government involvement or complicity
By Michael Powell
The Washington Post

Updated: 9:11 a.m. CT Sept 8, 2006
NEW YORK -

--snip--
The academic wing is led by Griffin, who founded the Center for a Postmodern World at Claremont University; James Fetzer, a tenured philosopher at the University of Minnesota (Fetzer's an old hand in JFK assassination research); and Daniel Orr, the retired chairman of the economics department at the University of Illinois. The movement's de facto minister of engineering is Steven Jones, a tenured physics professor at Brigham Young University, who's studied vectors and velocities and tested explosives and concluded that the collapse of the twin towers is best explained as controlled demolition, sped by a thousand pounds of high-grade thermite.

‘Possible war criminal’
Former Reagan aide Barbara Honegger is a senior military affairs journalist at the Naval Postgraduate School in California. She's convinced, based on her freelance research, that a bomb went off about six minutes before an airplane hit the Pentagon -- or didn't hit it, as some believe the case may be. Catherine Austin Fitts served as assistant secretary of housing in the first President Bush's administration and gained a fine reputation as a fraud buster; David Bowman was chief of advanced space programs under presidents Ford and Carter. Fitts and Bowman agree that the "most unbelievable conspiracy" theory is the one retailed by the government.

Then there's Morgan O. Reynolds, appointed by George W. Bush as chief economist at the Labor Department. He left in 2002 and doesn't think much of his former boss; he describes President Bush as a "dysfunctional creep," not to mention a "possible war criminal."


You reach Reynolds at his country home in the hills of Arkansas. His favored rhetorical style is long paragraphs without obvious punctuation: "Who did it? Elements of our government and M-16 and the Mossad. The government's case is a laugh-out-loud proposition. They used patsies and lies and subterfuge and there's no way that Bush and Cheney could have invaded Iraq without the help of 9/11."

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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:11 PM
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1. Thanks. I can't get enough of these 'heart warming' opinions
about bush. Made my day.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:16 PM
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2. oh my...does that say MSNBC?
..or am I hallucinating? For some reason things seem far stranger than usual. Must be me...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:28 PM
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3. here's another good one ....
from same article....
Former transporation secretary Norman Mineta told the commission he arrived in the presidential operations center -- under the White House -- at 9:20 a.m. on Sept. 11 and found Vice President Cheney. When an aide asked Cheney about the hijacked plane fast approaching the Pentagon, Mineta says the vice president snapped that the "orders still stand." Mineta assumed the orders were to shoot the plane down. Conspiracy theorists interpret this to mean: Don't shoot it down.

Cheney later said he was not in the operations center until after the plane hit. The commission never mentioned Mineta's contradictory version.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:35 PM
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5. Evil Cheney was giving the "orders" while * fooled with a goat.
They hit the Towers and the Pentagon to get their war.

They did not anticipate that the Towers would fall. That was an added surprise bonus.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:31 PM
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4. Before the towers fell I believed this was an inside job. Remember
everything you saw and heard that day and you will see that nothing the government said fit.


"Who did it? Elements of our government and M-16 and the Mossad. The government's case is a laugh-out-loud proposition. They used patsies and lies and subterfuge and there's no way that Bush and Cheney could have invaded Iraq without the help of 9/11."
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:01 PM
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6. The Path To 9/11 is blowing the lid off this can of worms.
Or should I say, this can of slimy reptiles crawling around our White House.

Dayum, it's like all of a sudden, everybody is speaking out.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:40 AM
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14. I think you're right. It's totally backfiring.
People are blurting out their real thoughts and they're angry. It's really amazing.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:17 PM
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7. Dysfunctional creep - I LOVE it!
:rofl:


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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:50 PM
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8. Struck a cord with me
:thumbsup:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:02 PM
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9. It's good that people are getting accustomed to the idea that 9-11
was an inside job. Perhaps soon we will be able to examine what happened in a real criminal investigation which includes members of our government as prime suspects.
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:29 PM
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10. Unfortunately, this guy also believes that NO planes flew into the WTC.
I just finished reading the whole article. This was quoted on page 3:


"There were no planes, there were no hijackers," Reynolds insists. "I know, I know, I'm out of the mainstream, but that's the way it is."

But what about all those New Yorkers who saw airplanes hitting the twin towers? A chuckle rumbles down the phone line. "I don't believe anyone in Lower Manhattan," he says. "You hire three dozen Actors' Equity dudes and they'll say anything."


That kind of took the wind out of the sails for me when I read it. At first, the guys previous position made him seem like a good, credible person to reference/quote in an argument against Bush, but his particular conspiracy theory angle is way too over the top for me.


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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 11:22 PM
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11. you need to read it again.....
there are several...several...people quoted in that article...from different facets of government. You just picked the most far-out response to highlight. I wonder why?
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:36 AM
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13. Maybe you ought to read it again.
Questioning my motives, eh? I picked THAT particular quote because IT'S THE SAME GUY the OP is about. Reynolds is the person quoted in the OP who says Bush is a creep. I pointed out that we should be cautious about using this Reynolds guy to quote because he ALSO SAID that he didn't believe any planes flew into the WTC.

Or, it could be because I'm secretly a right-wing freeper troll, which is really what your "I wonder why" nonsense implied, isn't it?






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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:13 PM
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15. questioning motives is getting to be a habit with me...
and yes I do wonder why someone would not see past the one 'no plane' quote.
the article mentions comments made by....
1.Former Reagan aide Barbara Honegger
2.Catherine Austin Fitts served as assistant secretary of housing in the first President Bush's administration
3.David Bowman was chief of advanced space programs under presidents Ford and Carter.
4.Morgan O. Reynolds, appointed by George W. Bush as chief economist at the Labor Department.
5.Former transporation secretary Norman Mineta

I found the article very impressive, especially on a cable news site. When I read your post, the words seemed to negate the quotes cited from other as reputable people, that did not have the 'no plane's' label attached.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 01:27 AM
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12. this HAS to be at the top of BushCo's "Oh, Shit!" list . . .
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 01:28 AM by OneBlueSky
with all of the evidence that's been accumulated and analyzed pointing out the flaws in the "official" story, they're worried as hell that what really happened will ultimately become known . . .

when that happens (and it will), they'll lose the emotional basis for ALL of their policies -- and be totally fucked both politically and legally . . . one of the reasons Path To 9/11" is so important is that it reinforces -- in a BIG way -- the official story and plants it firmly in the American consciousness . . . (which, btw, is another great reason to vigorously support cancelling it) . . .

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:15 PM
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16. you got it!
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