Use gas prices as an opportunity to talk about the Repugs!

[LuckyLib]

At the pump today, the guy across from me grinned and said, "Don't you love these low gas prices?" And I held up two fingers together, and replied "Yup, the oil companies and Republicans are thick as thieves as we get closer to the November elections!" Gave him something to think about, just in case he's one of the 30 percent with packing peanuts for brains.

[freedomsunshine]

1. Have you noticed how everybody thinks that 2.50 a gallon is a

great deal? Back before Bush destroyed New Orleans by blowing up the levees and had Cheney send jets to hit the oil platforms in the Gulf. We all thought that 2.00 a gallon was robbery. Now, people who drive Earth-killing SUV's think 50.00 to fill up is like winning the lottery. What a difference a year makes.

[LuckyLib]

2. Welcome to DU! You're clearly a member of the tin-foil hat club!

In fact, I'd say you're on the far edge of the spectrum!

[freedomsunshine]

3. Come on. I know Katrina was powerful. But you don't seriously

believe that a hurricane will knock over a steel oil platform anchored in the ocean bottom? Cheney maybe Rumsfeld ordered airstrikes to drive up the price of oil and blame it on the hurricane. He blamed the levees on the hurricane too. But everyone knows how New Orleans really got flooded and why. The Oppression is coming unless it gets stopped. Watch the Nazis come up with an excuse for Bush to stay in power.

[uppityperson]

4. You don't believe a hurricane can knock over a steel oil platform?

What about Mississippi, all the damage there? What caused that?

[Jeffersons Ghost]

5. What about per barrel prices remaining high, as pump prices drop?...

Kinda cute, isn't it?

[uppityperson]

6. oil prices are controlled by the BFEE/oil companies.

They have little to do with reality. Edited to add that the parties in subject line will use any excuse to jack up prices and make more money. Kind of funny how prices have suddenly fallen a bit after Labor Day.

[freedomsunshine]

8. The hurricane caused all that damage. But there were not offshore

oil rigs in Mississippu. Of course the hurricane did major damage. But Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld were not targeting anyone in Mississippi that I am aware of. Do you have any idea if they were? Wouldn't surprise me if they were trying to silence someone there and committed more oppression against the American people using the hurricane as a cover.

[Selatius]

7. The levees failed because the Army Corps of Engineers were cheap-asses

They knew for decades those levees were inadequate, and they simply didn't want to spend the money to upgrade them.

[freedomsunshine]

9. Maybe so, but I have a hard time believing

that they would just simply fail out of the blue. Remember, the storm was already over before the levees collapsed. Why didn't they collapse during the storm? Because they collapsed due to the actions of men working for the Bushitler Regime. I don't know why or who was the target of their crime. But the flood was pretty convenient for these guys to cover their tracks. I pray that the Earth Mother will give us the wisdom for justice against the crimes of Bush and his thugs.

[Selatius]

10. I believe you're wrong there; they collapsed the day of landfall.

The National Weather Service issued the first flood warnings the day of landfall because the levees at the Industrial Canal failed. They were issued Monday morning, the morning of landfall.

[freedomsunshine]

12. True about the landfall. But I believe that New Orleans flooded on

Tuesday, August 29. There were helicopters in the area. I believe they were transporting Bush's commando teams.

[Selatius]

13. Umm, no, I think you're wrong there again.

Monday morning:

http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/mcquaid090805.html

The floodwaters moved quickly.

By around 8 a.m., authorities reported rising water on both sides of the Industrial Canal in New Orleans, in St. Bernard and in eastern New Orleans. The Coast Guard reported sighting residents on rooftops in the Upper Ninth Ward.

At 9 a.m., there was six to eight feet of water in the Lower Ninth Ward, state officials said. Less than two hours later, most of St. Bernard was a lake 10 feet deep. "We know people were up in the attics hollering for help," state Sen. Walter Boasso said that morning.

[freedomsunshine]

14. Whatever day it was. I may have been wrong about the date.

But I still believe that the levees were blown. Bush's black budget includes funding for commando teams that don't "exist". But, they are trained and funded by an incredible amount of money. Don't know how much, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were trained to fly their choppers in all-weather conditions. Katrina was only the beginning. There will be more disasters on Bush's watch and there will be more attacks orchestrated by his cabal. This is all part of his move to increase the federal government under his control into all parts of our daily lives.

[Selatius]

15. But you have to back that up with evidence.

You cannot make such an assertion without having evidence to back up your claim. Bush has done some terrible things, but you've got to have the facts to back it up.

[freedomsunshine]

16. The evidence is out there. But I have to obtain it before I can

provide it. I am not sure that I want to do that as my life would be forfeit. If I came forward and my identity was made public with this sort of proof, I would be dead by the end of the day. Bush would make sure of that. Remember, dead men tell no tales. I pray that the Great Mother will reveal the proof to the public before it is too late. Bush is moving forward with his plans to dominate the nation and the world. Be very careful what you believe in the FCC controlled media. It all ultimately comes from the White House. While there are many wonderful correspondents who struggle every day to provide the truth, they cannot stray too far into the facts as they will be ridiculed and discredited by others. Their careers would be ruined. The evidence has been suppressed and may never see the light of day. Hopefully though, someone who knows all the facts will come forward and be able to present it to the public although they would do so at great personal risk. I pray that the Great Mother will protect that courageous person when that day arrives.

[uppityperson]

17. Are you saying "there is evidence, I have to get evidence, I dare not get

evidence"? Okay. Did you see my link in post #11 below? Are you concerned about being tracked through the internet?

[Selatius]

18. Yes, but you don't have one URL?

Not a link to a story that at least says they were bombed? I wasn't asking you to reveal the evidence to the world. I was simply asking you if you had links to reports or stories that show the levees were sabotaged by bombs.

[Name removed]

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[uppityperson]

20. Those are good web sites, but not giving info to bombing levees

If you want to make an assertion such as this, you must give links to stories, not say "search". At least, this is how it is done here on DU. For instance, I gave you a link in post #11 to illustrate what I was saying.

[freedomsunshine]

21. I googled "New Orleans levees bombed"

Tried to copy and paste some links for you from those websites. But my computer is having problems.

[uppityperson]

22. Geewhiz, I hate it when that happens

[uppityperson]

11. Katrina was not huge when it hit NOLA, storm surge got levees, link here

The water was pushed into canals and over/under got levees. They failed because they were under cut and over topped by water coming into canals during and after storm. Just because the winds were over does not mean the ocean's water level was back to normal, far from it.

Edited to add, am looking up a graphic for you, be right back.

Here you go, try this http://www.nola.com/katrina/graphics/wide.ssf?/katrina/graphics/flashflood.swf

[focusfan]

23. I don`t think it`s a bargain

To me anything over one dollar is highway robbery