Old school conservatives scared of "The Disney Effect".

[Neshanic]

They know what is coming, and are worried.

This Disney Effect is this. The country is starting a glacial movement back towards progressiveness and liberalism. This Disney pornography is the last desperate gasps that are the hallmark of a failing neoconservative movement that had its roots from the Reagan Era. The old guys know that what they do now will inevitably come back and bite them in their asses. Disney moved the line to a place where it has never been. It's possibly going to work on some levels, but will fail, as everyone but the true believers are on to the game.

The cautious, carefull, parsed wording of the conservatives that do not like this, exposes their greatest fear; they will be out of power soon, and the new yardstick measured in Disney terms is that all bets are off and when we do regain power, what worked for them will also work for us. The scandals will be exposed, the media dismantled into smaller pieces, and the discourse will he harsh and pent up from years of lies.

It will be decades for them to recover again, and the old guys know it.

Just for my fans....Steve Jobs is a prick asshole from hell for just being a Disney company man.

[AX10]

1. When we regain power, we will undue the damage done by the Cons.

Also, we will make sure that they (Conservatives) become a non-entity in the political and cultural worlds.

[Wonk]

2. You sure have a hardon for Steve Jobs, don't you?

http://corporate.disney.go.com/corporate/board_of_directors.html

[Neshanic]

3. There you are...you scamp!

[unschooler]

4. That's what I fear, too. The yardstick has been moved sooo far

on so many fronts. It will take an amazing leader to build any kind of consensus as to what constitutes decent political behavior again.

[Rabrrrrrr]

5. It's been a slowly forming wedge over the last 2 years or so.

Soon, the true conservatives will cleanse the religious, lying fake-Christian filth from their ranks; the democrats won't take them, and we will go back to a country of (and I'm naively unnuanced, I know, but I'm shooting for brevity, not completeness) true conservatives and true liberal/progressives, who all are closer to the middle, with the radical fundy fake Christians set out back in the margins where they are supposed to be; and as that group loses its power, the few ten or twenty million bandwagon jumpers who went into the fundy fake Christian party because it had power will leave it.

I think we're seeing the beginning of a major shift back to the old school ways of democrats and republicans; AND a major shift amongst the Christians back into the mainline churches (UCC< Presbyterian, Methodist, Episcopal, etc.) and away from the mega-churches and the hate-based churches (Assembly of God, Falwell, Robertson, etc.) AND we'll be seeing the Southern Baptist finally kick the shit out of the assholes that overtook their church a decade or two ago and bring it back to sensibility (it'll still be conservative and racist and hate-based, but not so insanely as it is now).

[AX10]

7. Why do you say that the fundies will go back into the mainline churches?

[Rabrrrrrr]

8. only the bandwagon jumping fundies

not the hardcore ones - the ones who just follow around whatever is popular at the time, whether it be pop music, churches, or pet rocks.

[muesa]

9. Goes back to Nixon's "Southern Strategy"

where the (Southern) Conservatives and the (Southern) Fundies jumped on the racist band wagon; and then the GOP tried the strategy up north deliberately making school integration and work place non-discrimination as painful as possible.

Then Reagan came in with his "Doctor Feelgood" -- "It's Morning In America" policies.

We have to undo that.

[Raksha]

6. When we do regain power, we'll be shutting the barn door

after the horse was stolen, but it's vitally important that we shut it anyway--and LOCK it! I'm referring to REAL election reform (paper ballots, hand counted) and REAL media reform (reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine, breaking up media conglomerates). And those are just for starters.

[4nic8em]

10. Democracy...

with a vengeance.

[mmonk]

11. I'm still worried that's too far into the future.

I'm not confident we'll take the house which is really needed to keep our way still alive. One thing is for sure, this is a monumental battle for this country shaping up. We have to hope people keep growing an independent mind enough despite the 24/7 propaganda machine.